How to deal with 17 year old driving dangerously?
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natureboy8891 said:
What sort of top up for emergency service drivers? I've seen that IAM accept membership without doing a test but is there anything else that I could get?
Some want to keep on top of their skills in a professional capacity, others are enthusiasts who want to explore some areas beyond the normal AD curriculum.Not sure I quite understand the last part of your question - what else would you like to get?
Bobskirs6 said:
Get a black box fitted (surprised he got insured without one) and if he continues to misbehave they will cancel his insurance which won't end well for him.
I am fortunate enough to be able too afford to insure my first car without a black box and I use it regularly, however, If I was unfortunate enough to off had to have a black box installed in my car I don't think I would have bothered with a car. I managed to get insurance easily without a black box and I am glad I did. None of my mates have black boxes installed which is good as there nothing worse than getting smoked because you have the insurnace company watching you. tgk300 said:
Ransoman said:
what about the people he kills when he crashes?
what about the animals that can't get out of the way fast enough?
what about the people trying to have peace at home but can't for all the engine revving and tyre squeeling.
what about the accidents he causes by other vehicles taking evasive actions that he is oblivious to.
Grow up.
What about being young like we all were at some point? what about the animals that can't get out of the way fast enough?
what about the people trying to have peace at home but can't for all the engine revving and tyre squeeling.
what about the accidents he causes by other vehicles taking evasive actions that he is oblivious to.
Grow up.
100 said:
17 is too young for a car unless you’re Shmee
Confiscate the keys and swear at him/ruffle him up a bit
Inform him his driving will be reviewed every evening from his dashcam
You having a laugh? 17 is not too young for a car and confiscating my keys would destroy any respect I had for my dad if he did that to me. Who wants to be watched by mummy and daddy all the time? They might as well be in the car with and drive it themselves. Confiscate the keys and swear at him/ruffle him up a bit
Inform him his driving will be reviewed every evening from his dashcam
tgk300 said:
nothing worse than getting smoked because you have the insurnace company watching you.
When you grow up, you will realise that there are many worse things that could happen. Black box insurance - and very expensive insurance in general - is for people who are too immature to have come to that realisation yet.otolith said:
tgk300 said:
nothing worse than getting smoked because you have the insurnace company watching you.
When you grow up, you will realise that there are many worse things that could happen. Black box insurance - and very expensive insurance in general - is for people who are too immature to have come to that realisation yet.Parents have a responsibility to nurture and teach their children, especially when the parents are aware of said child doing something in a reckless, dangerous or illegal manner that is likely going to cause harm to either themselves or to others. For parents to shrug their shoulders and say "nah, he/she has a licence, it's on him/her now" is irresponsible parenting.
Some youngsters can pass the test, but that doesn't make them a generally safe, or competant driver. Mix that with those youngsters who want to just have fun, show off or push either their or their cars' abilities on public roads, you literally have an accident waiting to happen. There's a whole chain of events leading up to an youngster having a crash and wiping someone out, if a parent can break one of those links in the chain early on, then good on them. It may just save somebody else's life.
It comes down to attitude. 6 points in your first two years on the road and you're banned. When my sister passed her test, her standard of driving was abysmal. She drove everywhere as fast as she could, "speed limits are boring" she would say, didn't bother using indicators through junctions, "I know where I'm going" and so on. Within four months she was zapped by a really big and obvious speed camera van, doing 43 in a 30 zone. My parents and I had tried to slow her down, get her to reconsider her approach to driving, in the end a NIP and 3 points did the trick. A small price to pay compared to a girl at college I was with. She was about a week from her 18th birthday when she crashed driving home from college one sunny Friday afternoon. She was flown to a major trauma unit via air ambulance and put in an induced coma. By the Tuesday evening her parents had a dead daughter.
Edit: I'm not saying the deceased girl's parents were irresponsible, as I don't know the details of the crash. But as a young driving she became a statistic, which is an awful waste.
Reg Local said:
Some want to keep on top of their skills in a professional capacity, others are enthusiasts who want to explore some areas beyond the normal AD curriculum.
Not sure I quite understand the last part of your question - what else would you like to get?
Sorry I didn't explain it at all but I can join IAM under the exemption scheme they have but was wondering what higher qualifications that could lead me toNot sure I quite understand the last part of your question - what else would you like to get?
100 said:
17 is too young for a car unless you’re Shmee
Absolute rubbish! I started driving (off road obviously) at the age of 12 and was itching to get on the road by the time I got to 17. Passed first time, did my Pass Plus and my first crash (aged 18) was when somebody sideswiped me.Did I always drive sensibly? Urr No but even then I knew there was a time and a place. Do I still play the fool occasionally some 14 years (and several extra driving category tests passed) after passing? You bet I do. Again there is a time and a place (Like J-turning in the lorry turning area at work
)Remember some places they start at 14!
natureboy8891 said:
Reg Local said:
Some want to keep on top of their skills in a professional capacity, others are enthusiasts who want to explore some areas beyond the normal AD curriculum.
Not sure I quite understand the last part of your question - what else would you like to get?
Sorry I didn't explain it at all but I can join IAM under the exemption scheme they have but was wondering what higher qualifications that could lead me toNot sure I quite understand the last part of your question - what else would you like to get?
otolith said:
When you grow up, you will realise that there are many worse things that could happen. Black box insurance - and very expensive insurance in general - is for people who are too immature to have come to that realisation yet.
You must be fun at party's. Car insurance is a scam anyway. It should be optional. In an accident, regardless of who is at fault, a persons insurance should pay for their own car and thats it. The other insurance company can pay for the other persons car. This way old people in their Jags and BMW can protect themselves but the 17 year old in a 200 quid doesn't have to bother with insurance because his car is worthless.
Either that or put a 1200 quid cap on car insurance for anyone regardless of the car as was proposed a few years ago. However, all the old people threw tantrums and the idea was thrown out.
Edited by tgk300 on Wednesday 27th May 17:59
Ransoman said:
Not everyone drove recklessly once they passed their test. I don't include myself in that statement though. I Passed mine at 17 and yes, I had moments of madness, but I only ever drove like that on quiet roads with no traffic/pedestrians and with good visibility.
Not everyone, but anyone who isn't boring.
GetCarter said:
You really haven't thought this through have you. 
Yes I have and there nothing wrong with it. Ok, it might be slightly unfair for the one not at fault but you're not paying for the car so who cares? You might have to pay a 100 quid more next year but it's the insurance company who pays out thousands so why care? Edited by tgk300 on Wednesday 27th May 18:11
tgk300 said:
GetCarter said:
You really haven't thought this through have you.
Yes I have and there nothing wrong with it. Ok, it might be slightly unfair for the one not at fault but you're not paying for the car so who cares? You might have to pay a 100 quid more next year but it's the insurance company who pays out thousands so why care? Edited by tgk300 on Wednesday 27th May 18:11
Who do you think actually pays ? and do you really think the cost of repairs/replacement is the real cost of accidents ?
Edited by Gary C on Wednesday 27th May 18:40
tgk300 said:
GetCarter said:
You really haven't thought this through have you.
Yes I have and there nothing wrong with it. Ok, it might be slightly unfair for the one not at fault but you're not paying for the car so who cares? You might have to pay a 100 quid more next year but it's the insurance company who pays out thousands so why care? Edited by tgk300 on Wednesday 27th May 18:11
tgk300 said:
I am fortunate enough to be able too afford to insure my first car without a black box and I use it regularly, however, If I was unfortunate enough to off had to have a black box installed in my car I don't think I would have bothered with a car. I managed to get insurance easily without a black box and I am glad I did. None of my mates have black boxes installed which is good as there nothing worse than getting smoked because you have the insurnace company watching you.
Smoked?Anyone translate chav to English?
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