RE: Five-door Fiesta ST

[budgie smuggler]

Janesy B said:

There's 21k ST-1, ST-2 and ST-3s registered in total. There's about 1k of the latest Clio - Renault really cocked up with 5 doors and auto.

I thought Renault did a pretty good job disguising the rear doors TBH:



I don't see why it would put anyone off if they otherwise liked the car. I think their issue is mainly that it reviewed almost universally as not as good as the ST.

[Tom_The_Light_House]

I really don't understand the logic in what models are offered in the UK to other countries.

Having a look on the US Ford website, there is a Fiesta Sedan. Yes a Fiesta with a BOOT ?!?!?

Also I was looking at Honda Civics. Do you know there are three Civic shapes in the US. Coupe / Hatch and again with a boot. I was aware of the FD2 so the saloon was not a surprise but the coupe is a great looking car.

Why does the UK only deserve the boring same old format of models?
Bring us the Coupes, bring us the sporty 5 doors, bring us saloons.

[J4CKO]

Good move, doesnt dilute it at all, it is a bit too restrictive not having 5 doors for a lot of people, we ended up with a 5 door Ecoboost but would have considered the ST if it had 5 doors then, part of me wonders whether or not it might be worth leasing one.

[culpz]

budgie smuggler said:

I thought Renault did a pretty good job disguising the rear doors TBH:



I don't see why it would put anyone off if they otherwise liked the car. I think their issue is mainly that it reviewed almost universally as not as good as the ST.

I've got to agree. I'm a big fan of the Renaultsport models and especially the Clio range. I'm still a fan of this new one and i was impressed with my test drive of one last year.

The problem is the fanbase IMO. The formula was always a hardcore and pure driving experience which is what won people over. However, only a small amount of people generally want something like this. As soon as this was taken away from them with the new model then it was just slated to the hills.

I think it's been judged unfairly as other manufacturers have made similar changes in the practical world of 5-doors, turbo engines and automatic transmissions and they have been praised highly in general.

Renault's problem has been lack of choice, something that Ford clearly understands by releasing this 5-door version of the FST. With the Clio it's what-you-see-is-what-you-get which has steered many to the Fiesta as a modern-day successor the the previous Renaultsport Clio's or even the Renaultsport Megane's.

[blade7]

If the Fiesta ST had been 5 door only like in the US I don't think they would have sold as many here. I wouldn't have bought one.

[Janesy B]

budgie smuggler said:

I thought Renault did a pretty good job disguising the rear doors TBH:



I don't see why it would put anyone off if they otherwise liked the car. I think their issue is mainly that it reviewed almost universally as not as good as the ST.

It looks fine but I think they would have sold many more with a manual option. Also seemed strange that the Megane RS was only offered as a 3 door but the smaller car had a 5 door option forced upon it.

[oilspill]

it looks much better with 5 doors, less of a shopping car.

[Steve vRS]

Are the 3 door models still on the good lease deals? Can these take a roof rack for bikes?

[Toolslinger]

Steve vRS said:

Are the 3 door models still on the good lease deals? Can these take a roof rack for bikes?

Yes and yes
G2l cheapest at the moment,
24 months
St2 inc style pack and met paint
£143 per month inc vat
£1475 initial inc vat and admin fee.

[SevenR]

Bummer. I have an ST 2 and love it. 5 door would have been my choice though for the kids.
I'll be happy with a Focus RS though after this car has gone back.

[HJMS123]

culpz said:

I think it's been judged unfairly as other manufacturers have made similar changes in the practical world of 5-doors, turbo engines and automatic transmissions and they have been praised highly in general.

I think a lot of that is due to the quality of the changes though. If you're going to go auto only it has to be a good one and judging by the reviews it's just not good enough, even after revising the box it's still not in the same league as it's competitors offerings (DSG).

[AH33]

Unusually for a hatch, it looks WAY better as a 5dr.

[Matthew Poxon]

Surprisingly enough it looks great in a 5dr and also looks good in the base colour as well.

If they have good lease deals on these like they did the 3dr I would be interested when the lease is up on the current fiesta.

[GroundEffect]

Tom_The_Light_House said:

I really don't understand the logic in what models are offered in the UK to other countries.

Having a look on the US Ford website, there is a Fiesta Sedan. Yes a Fiesta with a BOOT ?!?!?

Also I was looking at Honda Civics. Do you know there are three Civic shapes in the US. Coupe / Hatch and again with a boot. I was aware of the FD2 so the saloon was not a surprise but the coupe is a great looking car.

Why does the UK only deserve the boring same old format of models?
Bring us the Coupes, bring us the sporty 5 doors, bring us saloons.

They don't sell. It's not worth their time. America, China and India like cars with boots. Europe doesn't. Hatchbacks in the US are basically considered vans...

[Johnnytheboy]

One of my work colleagues just ruled out an ST because she couldn't get a five door.

[blade7]

AH33 said:

Unusually for a hatch, it looks WAY better as a 5dr.

NO it doesn't. It looks like a family car, not a hot hatch. Just like the new Focus RS looks like a watered down version of the old one...