High Performance, £30-40k, Least Depreciation?

High Performance, £30-40k, Least Depreciation?

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trowelhead

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1,867 posts

121 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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So you have 30-40k to spend.

What options are there for desirable performance cars in this price bracket that will hold their value the best?

  • Ability to be driven daily and add say 10k+ miles a year so no "garage queens" / classics...
My thoughts are that cars like the below are actually going to cost alot less than for example newer stuff like M4s / A45 AMG etc with their high depreciation..

W204 C63 COUPE - surely a decent example will hold it's value. Loads of stories of people "upgrading" to the newer model then missing the 6.2L NA. Also new enough not to feel dated, and not to have too much maintenance issues. Except horrific fuel bills smile
E92 M3 - as above, new M3/M4 seems to not hit the spot for some. Surely any of the limited editions and good examples will hold their value, perhaps even appreciate?
Nissan GTR - Special cars - newer models are way more expensive than when first released.
Audi R8 - Early ones seem like they do not budge in price, especially the early V8 manuals
Aston V8V - as above!

So can the above be ran effectively cheaper (regardless of higher fuel costs and maintenance) than the newer breed of M4 / C63s etc etc


Edited by trowelhead on Tuesday 27th September 16:28

rampageturke

2,622 posts

162 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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e39 m5 and bank the rest

Classy6

419 posts

177 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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My OCD - W124, don't you mean 204?

If you look at Merc prices historically they do depreciate quite a lot. The 204 C63 seems to of been holding out well but they've now released the 205 coupe so a few years+ down the line you might find they've dropped quite a bit more.

An important question to ask would be how long do you plan on owning the car as this factors a lot into how much depreciation you will encounter.

I'd put BMW in the same category as Merc above, albeit if you hold out for long term ownership and have a particularly nice example you may see values rise in the future.

Personally can't see the GTR, R8, V8V dropping much more. A 911 might be a good shout if again looking for long term ownership as values tend to dip, then skyrocket.

Another car to throw in the mix, although I'll let you make you're own mind up on whether values have yet to bottom out would be a Jaguar XKR-S.

Good Luck thumbup

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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I'd probably go for an Evora S.

DaveOrange

882 posts

209 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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Cayman R.

Even with 10000 miles pa I don't think these will depreciate much at all over the next few years. Get the right spec and you may even see a profit.

Shnozz

27,473 posts

271 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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Recently sold an Evora and a safe bet. Now looking at an R8 or a V8V. I think both should make for safe purchases.

Only thing I would say with the R8 is that early ones sell around £40k whereas you can get a very much newer (and even a V10 model) for not a lot more - £15k or so. As such, I'd be minded to stretch a small amount for a far newer car and can't help but wonder if they depreciate even slightly whether they will squeeze down the early V8 higher milers simply as a better proposition and little more - of course they might just all stay stable as they are...

Shnozz

27,473 posts

271 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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DaveOrange said:
Cayman R.

Even with 10000 miles pa I don't think these will depreciate much at all over the next few years. Get the right spec and you may even see a profit.
That's a great shout actually.

I am not a Pork fan so not enticing to me but they drive wonderfully and I can see them becoming a modern classic that appreciates a few k.

AMGJocky

1,407 posts

116 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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DaveOrange said:
Cayman R.
yes

ambuletz

10,734 posts

181 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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If it were me?

Honda NSX.

g7jhp

6,964 posts

238 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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Manual 997.2 coupe at just under £40k with circa 50k miles.


X5TUU

11,939 posts

187 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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rampageturke said:
e39 m5 and bank the rest
Except they're getting on now, look massively dated and are seriously overhyped on PH ... or to mention rapidly becoming the council car of choice ... great!

edo

16,699 posts

265 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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981 Cayman S. 2 years Porsche Warranty.

2 year/20k service intervals. Done it's worst in depreciation.

eg:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...


Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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I never understand these threads - if you can't handle depreciation, buy a cheaper car. The running costs will be a lot lower as well.

Almost every car depreciates around 50% in 3 years. The ones that don't depreciate either,
  • never sold in very big numbers because they're simply not popular, so why would you want one (Evora), or
  • depreciated like a lead balloon in their early years because there's no demand in the used market for a car with savage running costs (Maserati).

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

237 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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Ozzie Osmond said:
I never understand these threads - if you can't handle depreciation, buy a cheaper car. The running costs will be a lot lower as well.

Almost every car depreciates around 50% in 3 years. The ones that don't depreciate either,
  • never sold in very big numbers because they're simply not popular, so why would you want one (Evora), or
  • depreciated like a lead balloon in their early years because there's no demand in the used market for a car with savage running costs (Maserati).
I agree with the pointlessness of the thread, but not the '50% in 3 years'. That only applies to cars bought new, not a 6 year-old £35k Aston V8 Vantage for example.

However if the OP puts 10k miles on anything every year, the value of the car will depreciate.

trowelhead

Original Poster:

1,867 posts

121 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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Classy6 said:
My OCD - W124, don't you mean 204?

If you look at Merc prices historically they do depreciate quite a lot. The 204 C63 seems to of been holding out well but they've now released the 205 coupe so a few years+ down the line you might find they've dropped quite a bit more.

An important question to ask would be how long do you plan on owning the car as this factors a lot into how much depreciation you will encounter.

I'd put BMW in the same category as Merc above, albeit if you hold out for long term ownership and have a particularly nice example you may see values rise in the future.

Personally can't see the GTR, R8, V8V dropping much more. A 911 might be a good shout if again looking for long term ownership as values tend to dip, then skyrocket.

Another car to throw in the mix, although I'll let you make you're own mind up on whether values have yet to bottom out would be a Jaguar XKR-S.

Good Luck thumbup
Yes W204 my mistake! 911 and XKR-S are great shouts also. Absolutely Love the XKR-S and very rare also.

trowelhead

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Tuesday 27th September 2016
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kambites said:
I'd probably go for an Evora S.
What are these like as daily drivers, liveable with?

kambites

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221 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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trowelhead said:
kambites said:
I'd probably go for an Evora S.
What are these like as daily drivers, liveable with?
Dunno, I've never lived with one but I'm currently using an Elise and I can't see the Evora being worse. smile

trowelhead

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Tuesday 27th September 2016
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DaveOrange said:
Cayman R.

Even with 10000 miles pa I don't think these will depreciate much at all over the next few years. Get the right spec and you may even see a profit.
I hadn't even considered these thanks!

trowelhead

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X5TUU said:
rampageturke said:
e39 m5 and bank the rest
Except they're getting on now, look massively dated and are seriously overhyped on PH ... or to mention rapidly becoming the council car of choice ... great!
Hate to say it but agreed. I've owned one, it was ok but massively overrated imo compared to other cars on this thread. Really feel their age now, mine was 16 years old! Could have easily sunk thousands into upkeep also.

Credit where credit is due, it did sound good. And i do like the rear end!

trowelhead

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g7jhp said:
Manual 997.2 coupe at just under £40k with circa 50k miles.
So this era of 911 is likely to hold up? I always assumed that they were high volume and therefore likely to follow 996 values (down at one point to 10-15k for early ones)