High Performance, £30-40k, Least Depreciation?
Discussion
edo said:
981 Cayman S. 2 years Porsche Warranty.
2 year/20k service intervals. Done it's worst in depreciation.
eg:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
These are certainly on my radar. I was thinking 981 Cayman S or F Type for the next car. (see http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...2 year/20k service intervals. Done it's worst in depreciation.
eg:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
But then i considered it might be best to get something slightly older that will depreciate less...
I had this exact deilemma and went for a 13 plate C63 AMG with 9k miles. I absolutely love it. Nearly as good noise as a V8 Vantage, 6 years newer and destroys it in performance terms. Brilliant pyschopathic car. Interior on facelift models is good and can't see it dating too badly.
It also seems a lot of W205 drivers prefer their old car. I have driven both and although the 205 is better in measurable terms, it lacks a lot of what made the original C63 such a cult classic. Potentially good news for depreciation. Same applies to E92 M3's. I have a friend who bought one for 37k in 2014 and got 34k back recently which is pretty good going on a car like that.
I would also think R8 V10's are a safe place if you can stretch to one. They look good value when an average 07 V8 is only 15-18k cheaper.
Anyway, I thought you already had a C63?!
It also seems a lot of W205 drivers prefer their old car. I have driven both and although the 205 is better in measurable terms, it lacks a lot of what made the original C63 such a cult classic. Potentially good news for depreciation. Same applies to E92 M3's. I have a friend who bought one for 37k in 2014 and got 34k back recently which is pretty good going on a car like that.
I would also think R8 V10's are a safe place if you can stretch to one. They look good value when an average 07 V8 is only 15-18k cheaper.
Anyway, I thought you already had a C63?!
trowelhead said:
g7jhp said:
Manual 997.2 coupe at just under £40k with circa 50k miles.
So this era of 911 is likely to hold up? I always assumed that they were high volume and therefore likely to follow 996 values (down at one point to 10-15k for early ones) Why?
The 997.2 doesn't have the engine issues of the earlier 996.1/996.2 (1998 to 2004) and 997.1 (2005 to 2009).
The 997 is regarded as the best looking 911 since the 993.
A lower number of 997.2 models were sold in the UK as we were in the middle of the 'credit crunch'.
A 996 turbo or 997 turbo would have been another option but prices have climbed in the past few years.
Ozzie Osmond said:
I never understand these threads - if you can't handle depreciation, buy a cheaper car. The running costs will be a lot lower as well.
Almost every car depreciates around 50% in 3 years. The ones that don't depreciate either,
It is done as a mental exercise when approaching any higher priced purchase. I'm not saying i can't / don't want to handle depreciation, but if a GTR/R8 will retain it's value, it makes those higher running costs more palatable. So for the same price i can run a GTR/R8 vs a leased A45 AMG - now i get to pick which i like best. Almost every car depreciates around 50% in 3 years. The ones that don't depreciate either,
- never sold in very big numbers because they're simply not popular, so why would you want one (Evora), or
- depreciated like a lead balloon in their early years because there's no demand in the used market for a car with savage running costs (Maserati).
I like R8s, i like 981 Caymans, i like alot of cars in between. So looking at depreciation and overall cost of ownership can highlight some interesting opportunities to own interesting cars!
Totally biased opinion but how about a 996 Turbo.
Can be purchased in that price range. Can be used as a daily. Won't depreicate, even think mine has increased in value and can outstrip most of the choices so far. Plus spend a few thousand at 9e and get it even faster.
Perfect
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Can be purchased in that price range. Can be used as a daily. Won't depreicate, even think mine has increased in value and can outstrip most of the choices so far. Plus spend a few thousand at 9e and get it even faster.
Perfect
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
mikearwas said:
Anyway, I thought you already had a C63?!
Hey mate! Yes i do and it's ace 
Just planning ahead, i have a disease that means i usually am compelled to change cars every 6 months or so.
Things are looking good so far and the C63 is the first car in ages i have not wanted to change (fuel costs aside)
But looking ahead, it will be on the cards at some point!
I think a manual R8 V10, F-Type or 981 Cayman are front runners. Has to be special to match up to the C63.
On another note, have you mapped your C63?
kambites said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
* never sold in very big numbers because they're simply not popular, so why would you want one (Evora), or.
Does it not strike you as slightly odd to choose a car on the basis of whether other people like it? It's certainly not part of my buying criteria. Ozzie Osmond said:
Not as odd as buying a car which you don't like simply because it holds its value!
Oh I agre,e making residuals the main criteria on which you buy is odd but that doesn't mean there aren't very good cars with very strong residuals. Still, setting a maximum total cost of ownership and then choosing ones favourite car that falls within it seems sensible and depreciation is a major component of that, especially if you don't intend to keep the car very long.
Edited by kambites on Tuesday 27th September 17:26
kambites said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
Not as odd as buying a car which you don't like simply because it holds its value!
Oh I agre,e making residuals the main criteria on which you buy is odd but that doesn't mean there aren't very good cars with very strong residuals. Still, setting a maximum total cost of ownership and then choosing ones favourite car that falls within it seems sensible and depreciation is a major component of that, especially if you don't intend to keep the car very long.
Edited by kambites on Tuesday 27th September 17:26
Sod the namby pamby Porsche lovefest, there's a Corvette Z06 within budget.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/c...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/c...
trowelhead said:
Hey mate! Yes i do and it's ace
Just planning ahead, i have a disease that means i usually am compelled to change cars every 6 months or so.
Things are looking good so far and the C63 is the first car in ages i have not wanted to change (fuel costs aside)
But looking ahead, it will be on the cards at some point!
I think a manual R8 V10, F-Type or 981 Cayman are front runners. Has to be special to match up to the C63.
On another note, have you mapped your C63?
Not yet mate. To be honest I sometimes question the need. My mate has a Tamora running just under 400bhp and the C63 was only a tiny bit slower (half a car length) upto about 9 leptons from a roll and quicker above. It's already too fast for the road really and I'm worried il get myself in trouble.Just planning ahead, i have a disease that means i usually am compelled to change cars every 6 months or so.
Things are looking good so far and the C63 is the first car in ages i have not wanted to change (fuel costs aside)
But looking ahead, it will be on the cards at some point!
I think a manual R8 V10, F-Type or 981 Cayman are front runners. Has to be special to match up to the C63.
On another note, have you mapped your C63?
It's more the fact that I know it's not producing what it can due to artificial restriction that bugs me more than the need for more power.
If you want more performance I would try the Ftype. Only car I've driven that was more lairy than the C63. It tried to spit me off in third gear, dry but bumpy road in a straight line with everything on. Luckily I was awake.
Edited by mikearwas on Tuesday 27th September 19:46
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