Maserati Shamal - "Mad as a box of frogs"?? You decide..

Maserati Shamal - "Mad as a box of frogs"?? You decide..

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AMDBS

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70 posts

181 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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Atmospheric

5,305 posts

207 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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I saw that last week.

I love that car, although the bottoming out sounds like it could be an expensive trait.

100k though?

3200s will head that way next year, i can see that. Available for 7-12k now. Soon they'll skyrocket. Now, who's brave enough?

s m

23,164 posts

202 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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I do like these......and the normal V6 Ghiblis, Karifs etc

4rephill

5,040 posts

177 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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Atmospheric said:
I saw that last week.

I love that car, although the bottoming out sounds like it could be an expensive trait.

100k though?

3200s will head that way next year, i can see that. Available for 7-12k now. Soon they'll skyrocket. Now, who's brave enough?
You're a long way off 3200's heading for £100K - In another two years time they will still be £7~£12K cars!

Atmospheric

5,305 posts

207 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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Well 100k is extreme, but i reckon it might be sooner than we think?

droopsnoot

11,809 posts

241 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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I quite fancy a 3200, but I'm a bit wary - recently there was one laid up at my local MOT place for a couple of months while a "lighting controller" was sourced to get it through the test - though to be fair I'm not sure whether the delay was sourcing the part or saving up the several hundred pounds to pay for it. There's a convertible in "left to die" that's fairly local as well, makes me wonder why it's there getting greener and greener.

My mate has a Biturbo which I think that Shamal is a derivation from, and while the Biturbo isn't a remarkable-looking car I think it does look a bit better, in the same way that eighties body-kitted cars looked great until they pushed it a little too far, then the standard un-kitted car started to look good again.

MitchT

15,788 posts

208 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Not the prettiest of cars though they look really individual among today's dross. £100k though? You'd have to be "mad as a box of frogs"!

Pothole

34,367 posts

281 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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SHAMAL:369 BUILT, 23 RHD
3200gt: 4700+

Speaks for itself, surely?

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

236 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Absolutely love these, a proper playboy car and much classier than the 911 turbos of the same era.

And it's got a V8.....

george123

458 posts

181 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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love the shamal....like everything else classic & 'modern classic' prices have sky rocketed. A good one was £40K 4 years ago....couldnt afford one then either.

thought i'd scratch the itch with a manual 3200GT but eventually put off by the possible running costs even with with The Maserati Shed down the road from me for servicing.

Athlon

4,998 posts

205 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Worked on these back in the day, they are utterly bonkers and brilliant little cars. I only wish I could have afforded one back then. So many speak so much crap about these when in reality they were just epic . I am grateful to have been able to experience them when they were new.

Chris944_S2

1,912 posts

222 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Atmospheric said:
I saw that last week.

I love that car, although the bottoming out sounds like it could be an expensive trait.

100k though?

3200s will head that way next year, i can see that. Available for 7-12k now. Soon they'll skyrocket. Now, who's brave enough?
I can't see 3200s heading that way. Numbers aside, they offer a completely different driving experience, the 3200GT is a much more modern and sanitised car in comparison to the Maseratis of the 90s.
I'm not lucky enough to have driven a Shamal, but both my Ghibli and the Quattroporte of the same era require you to concentrate on what you're doing at the wheel and going by Metcalfe's review, the Shamal is no exception to that. Drive it like a modern car and they feel rubbish. But driven properly, thinking about what is happening underneath you, then they transform and become really rewarding to drive. I can well imagine the Shamal will easily be a handful, the Ghibli can already scare me at times and it only has 280odd horses. They're really thrilling cars to drive and I think that, combined with rarity, is what's pushing up the price of the Shamal.

medieval

1,499 posts

210 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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You just don't know - the biturbos we're despised in their day, even reviled as debasing the Maserati brand but are now being considered by collectors so the 3200, with boomareng lights, I think will have a value in the future.

Like most of these cars however, the increase in value is mostly offset by the expense in the interim period sadly.

Regards all

LuS1fer

41,084 posts

244 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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Atmospheric said:
I saw that last week.

I love that car, although the bottoming out sounds like it could be an expensive trait.

100k though?

3200s will head that way next year, I can see that. Available for 7-12k now. Soon they'll skyrocket. Now, who's brave enough?
Weirdly, this came up on my Facebook memories, this morning, from 2014
"A friend of mine has a Maserati 3200GT, a car that you might admire. His latest bill was £6000. It started with the usual throttle body failure and sensors. Anyway, he filled it with petrol and it then wouldn't start. A handy bump-start fried the electronics, he failed to make his £45 appointment and had to join the AA to get the car recovered - for £150."

He recently sold it, via auction and it made less than £10k. The new owner was soon on the phone to the auctioneer, asking how to deactivate the alarm....he rang my mate who had no idea...

lockhart flawse

2,040 posts

234 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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I was also tempted by a 3200 but I know that there would always be something wrong with it and there is no-one round here that I could take it to.

They're cheap now for good reason but I agree that the very best of them will become more valuable eventually.

Personally I can't get over the price Ferrari 550s are making now.

urquattroGus

1,845 posts

189 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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Chris944_S2 said:
Atmospheric said:
I saw that last week.

I love that car, although the bottoming out sounds like it could be an expensive trait.

100k though?

3200s will head that way next year, i can see that. Available for 7-12k now. Soon they'll skyrocket. Now, who's brave enough?
I can't see 3200s heading that way. Numbers aside, they offer a completely different driving experience, the 3200GT is a much more modern and sanitised car in comparison to the Maseratis of the 90s.
I'm not lucky enough to have driven a Shamal, but both my Ghibli and the Quattroporte of the same era require you to concentrate on what you're doing at the wheel and going by Metcalfe's review, the Shamal is no exception to that. Drive it like a modern car and they feel rubbish. But driven properly, thinking about what is happening underneath you, then they transform and become really rewarding to drive. I can well imagine the Shamal will easily be a handful, the Ghibli can already scare me at times and it only has 280odd horses. They're really thrilling cars to drive and I think that, combined with rarity, is what's pushing up the price of the Shamal.
Have you driven a 3200, I wouldn't describe it as sanitised, a recent article is classic and sports car described it as "Feral". I haven;t driven the older ones, but I have 3200 Asetto Corsa and it's pretty hairy, the hair trigger throttle and the way the turbos come in can lead to some very interesting moments!

UK had 75 Asetto Corsa's and 259 in total worldwide.

I love the Shamal, but for much less money I would argue that I have a pumped up version of the same engine, and better looks.

Incidentally, a 550 Maranello would wet my appetite if I could afford one. Apparently quite a few of the same team worked on the 3200.

It is also said by some (Quentin Wilson, others online) that a Manual 3200 can lap Fiorano faster than a 500 Maranello, seems surprising, maybe that is an urban myth.

At the moment the 3200 offers a lot of character and charm for the money, it feels genuinely special. I even chose one over a Gransport.

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The Surveyor

7,576 posts

236 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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urquattroGus said:
Have you driven a 3200, I wouldn't describe it as sanitised, a recent article is classic and sports car described it as "Feral". I haven;t driven the older ones, but I have 3200 Asetto Corsa and it's pretty hairy, the hair trigger throttle and the way the turbos come in can lead to some very interesting moments!

UK had 75 Asetto Corsa's and 259 in total worldwide.

I love the Shamal, but for much less money I would argue that I have a pumped up version of the same engine, and better looks.

Incidentally, a 550 Maranello would wet my appetite if I could afford one. Apparently quite a few of the same team worked on the 3200.

It is also said by some (Quentin Wilson, others online) that a Manual 3200 can lap Fiorano faster than a 500 Maranello, seems surprising, maybe that is an urban myth.

At the moment the 3200 offers a lot of character and charm for the money, it feels genuinely special. I even chose one over a Gransport.
The 3200 may be the better car, it may be faster, or even prettier, but personally part of the joy of ownership is to via slightly away from the 'sensible' and dip your toe into the lunacy. It's why people buy Maserati and not Ferrari IMHO.

urquattroGus

1,845 posts

189 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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The 4200 is the sensible one, most people are scared of the 3200.

True lunacy might just be the extra flakey-biturbo era...