Quickest point to point car
Discussion
Atmospheric said:
aspirated said:
Atmospheric said:
aspirated said:
The latest RS3, they are under-quoted and it's not unusual for them to do 0-62 in around 3.6 - 3.8 seconds
Oh Cool. How does that translate to minimal understeer and agility on this task?
Edited by Atmospheric on Tuesday 27th September 23:16[/footnote]
Well unless you're doing back to back hairpin turns (which isn't one of the criteria) you shouldn't worryjustleanitupabit said:
My Caterham.
Easily quicker than anything else I've owned. (And that includes an Impreza, an FTO and a 205GTi)
On a real UK road, bumpy, maybe a bit cold cold and damp ( normal I'm westher)'your Caterham would be a very long way behind a top spec 4wd turbo ( anything like Evo MR, Spec C, even things like Golf R).Easily quicker than anything else I've owned. (And that includes an Impreza, an FTO and a 205GTi)
One of the car mags did a test on this back when the 996 turbo was the current model.
IIRC they were surprised how significant a factor the top end speed/acceleration was in comparison to grip/handling even on a relatively tight B-road, IIRC the 996 turbo won fairly convincingly over an Evo, Caterham R400 and whatever else they had there. Slightly slower apex speeds but more than made up for it on the straights.
IIRC they were surprised how significant a factor the top end speed/acceleration was in comparison to grip/handling even on a relatively tight B-road, IIRC the 996 turbo won fairly convincingly over an Evo, Caterham R400 and whatever else they had there. Slightly slower apex speeds but more than made up for it on the straights.
macan turbo performance pack
4wd, limited slip diff, diff locks, 440bhp, 600nm, dual clutch, and decent suspension travel to deal with bad road surfaces / pot holes which will undo most performance cars
or a stage one RS6 with air suspension raised up
on a closed road, Seb in his pikes peak pug
4wd, limited slip diff, diff locks, 440bhp, 600nm, dual clutch, and decent suspension travel to deal with bad road surfaces / pot holes which will undo most performance cars
or a stage one RS6 with air suspension raised up
on a closed road, Seb in his pikes peak pug
Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Wednesday 28th September 06:27
GravelBen said:
One of the car mags did a test on this back when the 996 turbo was the current model.
IIRC they were surprised how significant a factor the top end speed/acceleration was in comparison to grip/handling even on a relatively tight B-road, IIRC the 996 turbo won fairly convincingly over an Evo, Caterham R400 and whatever else they had there. Slightly slower apex speeds but more than made up for it on the straights.
Evo did the same thing with an Enzo and an RS3, scooby and focus RS, they didn't see which way it wentIIRC they were surprised how significant a factor the top end speed/acceleration was in comparison to grip/handling even on a relatively tight B-road, IIRC the 996 turbo won fairly convincingly over an Evo, Caterham R400 and whatever else they had there. Slightly slower apex speeds but more than made up for it on the straights.
very few people drive 10/10ths on corners in the real world, there are just to many random things that can be waiting for you that you need wiggle room, its far easier to use all the power in a straight line where you have visibility
I don't think I've driven any cars that I can justify saying are quick point to point, possibly my old Lupo GTI but that was just fun, not quick.
I cant really argue with the idea of an Evo or an Impreva all things taken into consideration. I don't think you can have anything too wild or expensive or you'd be tip-toeing everywhere in it. Same goes for anything like a Caterham or a Westy where self preservation is a bit of a limiting factor, that and rain!
I cant really argue with the idea of an Evo or an Impreva all things taken into consideration. I don't think you can have anything too wild or expensive or you'd be tip-toeing everywhere in it. Same goes for anything like a Caterham or a Westy where self preservation is a bit of a limiting factor, that and rain!
Bit of a teenager thread.
I used to think nothing would touch my lightly breathed on integrale but it all depends on the road and conditions. in the dry on a tight twisty mountain pass very little can get close to my Elise, only something stupid with no boot and limited body panels is going to get close.
There again other roads with a powerful EVO will kill the elise.
I used to think nothing would touch my lightly breathed on integrale but it all depends on the road and conditions. in the dry on a tight twisty mountain pass very little can get close to my Elise, only something stupid with no boot and limited body panels is going to get close.
There again other roads with a powerful EVO will kill the elise.
Milemuncher said:
911 Turbo S must surely take some beating?
Winner. Watch the Evo vid of it at Anglesey, in.sane.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv8z7inZKpU
ChilliWhizz said:
In the 'real' world the quickest one will be the one driven by the half wit who doesn't give a fig for his own safety or the safety of others.
Correct. I consider myself extremely experienced on "typical British B roads" driving lots of miles on them day in, day out. Maximum cornering speed is limited by what you can see in any reasonably competent car, and whilst a small budget hatch on skinny tyres will need to corner slower than a higher performance car due to grip limitations, the performance differences of all medium / high performance cars on B-road corners are neutralised by the national speed limit and visibility.If you had assurance that the road was closed and clear then it's a different story, but they already do that - they're called rallies, and rallies are not representative of driving point to point on typical British roads.
I maintain a slightly higher average speed on my drives than most other traffic (on the basis that it's normally me catching them up, not the other way around) but on occasion someone decides to catch me up in a lower performance car and unless I start taking risks I don't want to take, there is nothing I can do to stop them catching me.
All these low cars would lose out to one of the fast SUVs like the RRS SVR on public roads. The ability to see that much further and over many obstacles reduces the risk significantly and allows for higher speeds to be retained for longer. Over a section of typical UK B roads the big ugly van will be swifter for less risk than the faster and better handling lower cars. Close the roads and the vans will be thrashed however.
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