Great pics of Longbridge as it is today

Great pics of Longbridge as it is today

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Fastdruid

8,651 posts

153 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Pothole said:
Fastdruid said:
Jimmy Recard said:
There aren't now. There's bugger all left there. A few MG SAIC buildings, some car parks and a shopping centre. The rest is just flattened ground

ETA: Romantically, I want to believe that's still there. I just don't know howit can be. Why would it be? And if you go past the site, where would this be? You can see most of it from the road.

And why would it be so well preserved? If St Modwen or SAIC weren't interested in what's there, surely it would be sold or scrapped? If neither were possible, why maintain it by keeping the lights running?
Not quite, there is ~70 acres of the MG "site". Yes the Rover bit is all flattened (and/or built on already) but the MG bit I could believe still has stuff there. Just take a look at google maps, the old airfield site is the MG bit and both fking huge and all there still.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.3896832,-1.98993...
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/see-pictures-chart-rebirth-longbridge-8987464
Which is the old Rover works.

Seriously, I could walk to the site from here and drive past it regularly. The MG site is huge and all still there but it's pretty hidden.

In the back entrance to M&S you get to see the huge cut off tunnel from the two sites.
You can *just* see it here (the red thing on the right)

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.3932628,-1.99131...






craigjm

17,970 posts

201 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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f1nn said:
It's easy to blame the "vultures" but the start of the end was the end of the Honda partnership IMO.
The start of the end was the START of the Honda partnership. They became far too dependent on them much like Saab being saddled with GM stuff so when then bigger partner walks away the small company hits the skids. Building rebadged and slightly re-engineered versions of someone elses cars to a greater or lesser extent is never going to sustain you as a car company.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

171 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Fastdruid said:
Pothole said:
Fastdruid said:
Jimmy Recard said:
There aren't now. There's bugger all left there. A few MG SAIC buildings, some car parks and a shopping centre. The rest is just flattened ground

ETA: Romantically, I want to believe that's still there. I just don't know howit can be. Why would it be? And if you go past the site, where would this be? You can see most of it from the road.

And why would it be so well preserved? If St Modwen or SAIC weren't interested in what's there, surely it would be sold or scrapped? If neither were possible, why maintain it by keeping the lights running?
Not quite, there is ~70 acres of the MG "site". Yes the Rover bit is all flattened (and/or built on already) but the MG bit I could believe still has stuff there. Just take a look at google maps, the old airfield site is the MG bit and both fking huge and all there still.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.3896832,-1.98993...
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/see-pictures-chart-rebirth-longbridge-8987464
Which is the old Rover works.

Seriously, I could walk to the site from here and drive past it regularly. The MG site is huge and all still there but it's pretty hidden.

In the back entrance to M&S you get to see the huge cut off tunnel from the two sites.
You can *just* see it here (the red thing on the right)

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.3932628,-1.99131...
Love it

thumbup

You can also go back in time with googles timeline and see the transformation over the lat few years.

f1nn

2,693 posts

193 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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craigjm said:
The start of the end was the START of the Honda partnership. They became far too dependent on them much like Saab being saddled with GM stuff so when then bigger partner walks away the small company hits the skids. Building rebadged and slightly re-engineered versions of someone elses cars to a greater or lesser extent is never going to sustain you as a car company.
Hmm, Maybe...but if nothing else, the Honda era provided cars that were legitimate class contenders, cars like the concerto? based 200/400 series were as good as anything around at that time, and a massive step forward from the Maestro and Montego which don't forget sold at the same time.


craigjm

17,970 posts

201 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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f1nn said:
craigjm said:
The start of the end was the START of the Honda partnership. They became far too dependent on them much like Saab being saddled with GM stuff so when then bigger partner walks away the small company hits the skids. Building rebadged and slightly re-engineered versions of someone elses cars to a greater or lesser extent is never going to sustain you as a car company.
Hmm, Maybe...but if nothing else, the Honda era provided cars that were legitimate class contenders, cars like the concerto? based 200/400 series were as good as anything around at that time, and a massive step forward from the Maestro and Montego which don't forget sold at the same time.
Agreed but all it did was prolong the death of the company. It didn't really give then anything with which they could survive on their own.

f1nn

2,693 posts

193 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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No, you are right, Prolonged is exactly the word I would use.

If the Honda relationship had continued, it's not such a stretch to imagine that Rover could be around today, with variations of some of the Honda range.

it's not done Mazda much harm seemingly, with the relationship they have with Ford

craigjm

17,970 posts

201 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Yeah they might be. Mazda have done OK after Ford walked away though because they didn't go in head first with the partnership. Its a shame Rover couldnt have picked and chosen its partners for each model so it could have spread its risks

Fastdruid

8,651 posts

153 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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Alucidnation said:
Fastdruid said:
Pothole said:
Fastdruid said:
Jimmy Recard said:
There aren't now. There's bugger all left there. A few MG SAIC buildings, some car parks and a shopping centre. The rest is just flattened ground

ETA: Romantically, I want to believe that's still there. I just don't know howit can be. Why would it be? And if you go past the site, where would this be? You can see most of it from the road.

And why would it be so well preserved? If St Modwen or SAIC weren't interested in what's there, surely it would be sold or scrapped? If neither were possible, why maintain it by keeping the lights running?
Not quite, there is ~70 acres of the MG "site". Yes the Rover bit is all flattened (and/or built on already) but the MG bit I could believe still has stuff there. Just take a look at google maps, the old airfield site is the MG bit and both fking huge and all there still.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.3896832,-1.98993...
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/see-pictures-chart-rebirth-longbridge-8987464
Which is the old Rover works.

Seriously, I could walk to the site from here and drive past it regularly. The MG site is huge and all still there but it's pretty hidden.

In the back entrance to M&S you get to see the huge cut off tunnel from the two sites.
You can *just* see it here (the red thing on the right)

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.3932628,-1.99131...
Love it

thumbup

You can also go back in time with googles timeline and see the transformation over the lat few years.
I stopped and took a picture so you can the big red "tunnel" better. It's just been lopped off and painted.



This used to run between the ex-airfield site (as it's higher than all the rest) and the old Austin site.

Basically the MG site has an outer layer of houses round it now on the Lickey road side. It's actually quite hard to see any of it apart from here as there is a row of trees between the houses and it.