New Ford KA 5 door

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AH33

2,066 posts

136 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Meh

Krikkit

26,538 posts

182 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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carlove said:
Just looked at a couple of pictures, dull interior, is the instrument cluster from a 1996 Fiesta but with the addition of a trip computer?
Looks decent enough to me - what more do you need in a little city car? Rev counter, speedo, fuel, little trip computer to give you some more info.

Pistonheads - overcomplicated dashboards matter!

bristolracer

5,542 posts

150 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Krikkit said:
Pistonheads - overcomplicated dashboards matter!
I dont understand why most cars have rev counters.
Most owners have no idea whatsoever what there purpose is.
On diesels they are particularly useless.

Mr Snrub

24,989 posts

228 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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bristolracer said:
Krikkit said:
Pistonheads - overcomplicated dashboards matter!
I dont understand why most cars have rev counters.
Most owners have no idea whatsoever what there purpose is.
On diesels they are particularly useless.
Or why a temperature gauge is now considered obsolete

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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forzaminardi said:
I know it's all marketing and product evolution and so on but I find it slightly annoying that with each generation of a model, the car grows bigger, and then a couple of years later the manufacturer has a eureka moment and "re-invents" the city car by launching a whole new titchy model to kick off the cycle once again.
It is pretty sensible. How do you make the new car 'better' than it's predecessor? Put an extra 40mm in the wheelbase. Boom, easy improvement. Do that two or three times and there's space for a whole new model underneath. Exciting!

thinkofaname

280 posts

134 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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David87 said:
Hmm. I'm sure it's all well and good, but think it should perhaps have not used the KA name. This or a Dacia Sandero?
Reports elsewhere say that it costs a hell of lot of money to get a new model name into buyers' minds. So Ford Europe had to decide between that, and reusing an established name. It's much bigger than previous Kas, and not really aimed at the same kind of buyer, so it's not really a Ka at all. But are you really going to spend squillions getting this car's name known? So they stuck with Ka and added a plus, when it's really more of a Fiesta minus.

I think it will sell well, if it's basically as good as recent Fiestas, as initial reviews suggest. "Funky" designs are overrated, IMO. The Mk 2 Ka was quite stylish but didn't sell. If memory serves, the radical Mk I wasn't a runaway seller either. The motoring press like radical designs (bored from reviewing cars day in, day out?), and tend to underestimate how conservative the market can be.

Edited by thinkofaname on Friday 30th September 20:45

shake n bake

2,221 posts

208 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Why bother, buy a fiesta.

thinkofaname

280 posts

134 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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shake n bake said:
Why bother, buy a fiesta.
For several thousand more? Ford have, not by coincidence, discontinued the cheap versions of the Fiesta.


[At this point someone normally says "but you could buy a used [x] for the same money."
Yes, but it would be used. You would have to compare its price to that of a similarly used Ka+.]

Mercury00

4,104 posts

157 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Well I like it, it looks smart.

shake n bake

2,221 posts

208 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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thinkofaname said:
For several thousand more? Ford have, not by coincidence, discontinued the cheap versions of the Fiesta.
Fair point.

LuS1fer

41,139 posts

246 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Looks blander than a mint imperial and that interior looks horrific. mind you, with the Ecosport and ne kuga, Ford's design is disappearing (Mondeo excepted).

If this Ka is that big, I wonder if they are basically building it on what will soon be the old Fiesta platform and have abandoned the Fiat 500 platform sector that Fiat kicked their arse in.

If the next Fiesta and Focus grow, the Mondeo will be 7 series sized.... the current Mondeo is already Granada sized.

VW tried a cheap Brazilian with the VW Fox and that bombed faster than a Stuka in an air raid.

SpunkyGlory

2,322 posts

166 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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It isn't a replacement for the Ka; it's a completely different car albeit shares the nameplate.

It isn't a sub compact car as the previous Ka was, it's a B car so the same segment as Fiesta. But it essentially offers a 5 door, value for money B car experience and will fill the gap of Fiesta Studio and Style as Fiesta will start at Zetec.

For anyone who is worried about the quality of the Ka+, you will be pleasantly surprised if you spend some time with one. The space inside is also very impressive for a car of that size. The quality is even more impressive given the car starts at £8995.

Lester H

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2,739 posts

106 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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thinkofaname said:
David87 said:
Hmm. I'm sure it's all well and good, but think it should perhaps have not used the KA name. This or a Dacia Sandero?
Reports elsewhere say that it costs a hell of lot of money to get a new model name into buyers' minds. So Ford Europe had to decide between that, and reusing an established name. It's much bigger than previous Kas, and not really aimed at the same kind of buyer, so it's not really a Ka at all. But are you really going to spend squillions getting this car's name known? So they stuck with Ka and added a plus, when it's really more of a Fiesta minus.

I think it will sell well, if it's basically as good as recent Fiestas, as initial reviews suggest. "Funky" designs are overrated, IMO. The Mk 2 Ka was quite stylish but didn't sell. If memory serves, the radical Mk I wasn't a runaway seller either. The motoring press like radical designs (bored from reviewing cars day in, day out?), and tend to underestimate how conservative the market can be.

Edited by thinkofaname on Friday 30th September 20:45
Contrary to general perception the original Ka was initially a very poor seller, though the motoring press raved about it. The public like the IDEA of a radical design but are slow to buy the resulting car. As the OP who has now read all the posts, I think it will sell well. With Dacia I think there is an element of inverted snobbery or is it common sense? This comment is off at a tangent to the Ka, but some buyers actually like off roadrers and their imitation to look a bit utilitarian ,even faded.

Edited by Lester H on Saturday 1st October 20:44

LuS1fer

41,139 posts

246 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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No better from the back



The original Ka may not have been the million seller that the Fiesat was, but it wasn't too bad http://left-lane.com/european-car-sales-data/ford/...

Edited by LuS1fer on Saturday 1st October 20:44

GroundEffect

13,844 posts

157 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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The Ka+ is on the B2e platform (current Fiesta, B-Max and Ecosport). It's bigger than the old one, hence the '+'...

In other Ford news - New Kuga is now available to spec on Ford.co.uk:



ST-Line trim. Handsome thing.

Fastpedeller

3,875 posts

147 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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I like the look of it and will test drive next Tuesday. I don't know if some people buy a car to impress others, I'm not in the group - I really don't care what others think as long as I'm happy with it. Likewise I don't judge other people on the car they drive. I saw a nice jag F type recently and I must say the car looked impressive, however the driver didn't go up on down in my estimation. Guess I've made my point, so no need to drone on. I have considered a Dacia, but the Ka+ appeals on the basis that (due to 2nd hand buyers' preconceptions)it will likely be easier to sell if I choose to in the future.

dxg

8,219 posts

261 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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GroundEffect said:
The Ka+ is on the B2e platform (current Fiesta, B-Max and Ecosport). It's bigger than the old one, hence the '+'...
That's interesting. So they've fallen out with Fiat then?

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

131 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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The fact that ford can't be arsed to fit wiper blades from the 21st centry on them shows how little they care.

The only other car that still comes with the old type of wiper blades is the ecosport and at a push the swift oh and the LA ferrari

Momentofmadness

2,364 posts

242 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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Martin_Hx said:
Funkycoldribena said:
It'll probably sell like hot cakes.

It isnt that bad looking.
rofl

Its fecking awful....
yes

Lester H

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2,739 posts

106 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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Momentofmadness said:
Martin_Hx said:
Funkycoldribena said:
It'll probably sell like hot cakes.

It isnt that bad looking.
rofl

Its fecking awful....
yes
It's not at all awful, it's bland and generic. That is why it will sell in this price range.