Why do these dirty Diesels have to be so damn fast??
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My very recent experience was behind the wheel of a 640d Coupe test drive (I know, I know but the other car is petrol and will stay petrol), the sales woman says "there's no cameras under the next underpass, open her up" I did, in gear acceleration was savage in a very civilised way(?) Got to very big numbers very very quickly.
Devils juice yes and I think it would take a very determined petrolhead to shake off a >300bhp >450 lb/ft Diesel. Off the line, no contest (still pretty brisk though) but if it's rolling I'm not sure I'd bother taking them on as making the point would put you in 1.5 leptons territory.
T1b
Devils juice yes and I think it would take a very determined petrolhead to shake off a >300bhp >450 lb/ft Diesel. Off the line, no contest (still pretty brisk though) but if it's rolling I'm not sure I'd bother taking them on as making the point would put you in 1.5 leptons territory.
T1b
Petrol or diesel ....just boils down to the air pump on the side in the end.
Fans of one says the other 'blows', fans of the other say the other way 'sucks'...
Choose whatever you like.
As Baz said ....Sometimes you are ahead, sometimes you are behind, the race is long, and in the end, it's only with yourself
Fans of one says the other 'blows', fans of the other say the other way 'sucks'...
Choose whatever you like.
As Baz said ....Sometimes you are ahead, sometimes you are behind, the race is long, and in the end, it's only with yourself
Following recent thread discussions - have you checked your cam chain tensioner OP?!
I jest - but in all seriousness your car should have walked the TDi Golf, I have a 3.2 which is effectively 2 less cylinders and different software and I have no trouble shaking the odd diesel VAG hatchback.
I jest - but in all seriousness your car should have walked the TDi Golf, I have a 3.2 which is effectively 2 less cylinders and different software and I have no trouble shaking the odd diesel VAG hatchback.
fossilfuelled said:
I reckon he rebadged something a bit tasty.
I was on the autobahn in a 997 Turbo recently, and a golf something or other kept up with me to 180 mph. Yes. 180 mph GOLF....WTF!? He didn't even drop back very much as I pressed the loud pedal. He pretty much kept up! Who knew?
That must have been really annoying!I was on the autobahn in a 997 Turbo recently, and a golf something or other kept up with me to 180 mph. Yes. 180 mph GOLF....WTF!? He didn't even drop back very much as I pressed the loud pedal. He pretty much kept up! Who knew?
I agree that it must have been rebadged or heavily modified/engine swap etc. A 330d would not be able to take a 4.2 V8 S4 on so this was no normal Golf.
With some fairly standardised bolt ons you can easily get 230/240bhp from the Golfs.
With the torque and less transmission losses they would easily outdo your low 300bhp S4.
I have about 260bhp and nearly 400ft lb and was able to outdo a V6T S4... I also can level peg with an RS4 B7 till about 120
Diesels are quick and you can't get away from that, especially with a bet of fettling.
With the torque and less transmission losses they would easily outdo your low 300bhp S4.
I have about 260bhp and nearly 400ft lb and was able to outdo a V6T S4... I also can level peg with an RS4 B7 till about 120
Diesels are quick and you can't get away from that, especially with a bet of fettling.
Not supporting diesels but it is pointless quoting 0-60 times. They are crap off the line, their strength is on the move. If you want to compare performance of petrol vs diesels in real driving not traffic light GP then you need to think 30 mph upwards.
Real problem is the way diesels make themselves feel quick by the shove of short lived torque. It fools a lot of drivers.
Real problem is the way diesels make themselves feel quick by the shove of short lived torque. It fools a lot of drivers.
xjay1337 said:
With some fairly standardised bolt ons you can easily get 230/240bhp from the Golfs.
With the torque and less transmission losses they would easily outdo your low 300bhp S4.
I have about 260bhp and nearly 400ft lb and was able to outdo a V6T S4... I also can level peg with an RS4 B7 till about 120
Diesels are quick and you can't get away from that, especially with a bet of fettling.
LOLS.With the torque and less transmission losses they would easily outdo your low 300bhp S4.
I have about 260bhp and nearly 400ft lb and was able to outdo a V6T S4... I also can level peg with an RS4 B7 till about 120
Diesels are quick and you can't get away from that, especially with a bet of fettling.
rongagin said:
Not supporting diesels but it is pointless quoting 0-60 times. They are crap off the line, their strength is on the move. If you want to compare performance of petrol vs diesels in real driving not traffic light GP then you need to think 30 mph upwards.
Real problem is the way diesels make themselves feel quick by the shove of short lived torque. It fools a lot of drivers.
I'm always surprised by how early people change up, even when they're trying to make progress. My car has a very slow N/A engine, and pulling on to a motorway I'll normally hold in 3rd gear to get all the way up to speed. Often I'll see both petrol and diesel cars change gears three times on the sliproad. Real problem is the way diesels make themselves feel quick by the shove of short lived torque. It fools a lot of drivers.
xjay1337 said:
With some fairly standardised bolt ons you can easily get 230/240bhp from the Golfs.
With the torque and less transmission losses they would easily outdo your low 300bhp S4.
I have about 260bhp and nearly 400ft lb and was able to outdo a V6T S4... I also can level peg with an RS4 B7 till about 120
Diesels are quick and you can't get away from that, especially with a bet of fettling.
Out of interest, have you got a 1/4 mile time for your Scirocco?With the torque and less transmission losses they would easily outdo your low 300bhp S4.
I have about 260bhp and nearly 400ft lb and was able to outdo a V6T S4... I also can level peg with an RS4 B7 till about 120
Diesels are quick and you can't get away from that, especially with a bet of fettling.
rongagin said:
Not supporting diesels but it is pointless quoting 0-60 times. They are crap off the line, their strength is on the move. If you want to compare performance of petrol vs diesels in real driving not traffic light GP then you need to think 30 mph upwards.
Real problem is the way diesels make themselves feel quick by the shove of short lived torque. It fools a lot of drivers.
Get a shot in a BMW 435D - It's still fooling me every time I drive it Real problem is the way diesels make themselves feel quick by the shove of short lived torque. It fools a lot of drivers.
. FGB said:
Get a shot in a BMW 435D - It's still fooling me every time I drive it .
I have driven the new 335D X drive and yes it feels quick, and indeed is quick. Boring and a good long distance cruiser imo.. But the majority of turbo diesel stuff is not 300+ bhp. The OP was talking 4 pot 2ltr.
They are the engines that gets the wild tales of "I beat a 911 off the slip-road" type crap. And yes they are fooling themselves.
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