What all season tyres?
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I need a set of all season tyres for my work car.
It doesn't need anything particularly special, I only do long runs in it so just tend to chill out, it's just a bit more cold grip and a bit of snow grip that I need. Wet grip is quite important though.
I've previously used Falken AS200s. They're fairly priced and have done me very well especially in snow, but I there anything else I should be looking at in a similar price range? (£88 per 225/50 17R)
Cheers
It doesn't need anything particularly special, I only do long runs in it so just tend to chill out, it's just a bit more cold grip and a bit of snow grip that I need. Wet grip is quite important though.
I've previously used Falken AS200s. They're fairly priced and have done me very well especially in snow, but I there anything else I should be looking at in a similar price range? (£88 per 225/50 17R)
Cheers
The last all seasons I bought were Kleber Quadraxers, back in 2014. I found them ideal and surprisingly competent although I never had them fitted to a car that would driven enthusiastically (1.4 Note!). Not sure on costs now and they may have been superceded, but I know they were mid priced at the time.
I await the flaming regarding ditch finders wtc, but they worked for me and I live along an unpaved farm track which snow bounds cars in the winter weeks.
I await the flaming regarding ditch finders wtc, but they worked for me and I live along an unpaved farm track which snow bounds cars in the winter weeks.
Thanks for the suggestion, similarly I think tyres should be appropriate to the job, so seldom buy any performance rubber for the cars.
Unfortunately I can't seem to find your brand "Kleber" on the big tyre sites just now. To be honest I suspect this will end up more "the devil I know". Especially most people seem to favour either running summer tyres all year, or dedicated winters, so not a lot of opinions to the alternative are out there.
Unfortunately I can't seem to find your brand "Kleber" on the big tyre sites just now. To be honest I suspect this will end up more "the devil I know". Especially most people seem to favour either running summer tyres all year, or dedicated winters, so not a lot of opinions to the alternative are out there.
see conclusion from tyrereviews :
To conclude -
What can we conclude from this test? The evidence suggests that the technology to create a true all season tyre doesn't yet exist, and looking at the balance of qualities, the best winter tyre on sale in the UK is actually a better year round tyre than the leading all season contender. The Continental works better in the snow, better in the wet during handling, braking and aquaplaning tests, and in the dry it's only narrowly beaten under dry braking, but wins again during the dry handling tests. We’re waiting for the confirmation of the wet and dry test temperatures, but we believe them to be around 7c.
All tyres are a compromise, and a siped tyre with a compound designed to work in a large range of conditions is more of a compromise than most. Unfortunately, a true all season tyre still doesn't exist, and for optimum year round grip we need to run two sets of tyres. As a summer tyre offers little to no performance in the snow, an all season, or good quality winter tyre can be a sensible year round compromise if you don't want the bother of running two sets of wheels, but want to be mobile regardless of the conditions.
The Continental Winter Contact TS850 has moved the game on for winter tyres, and based on these test results, would anyone question if it was labelled an all season tyre?
To conclude -
What can we conclude from this test? The evidence suggests that the technology to create a true all season tyre doesn't yet exist, and looking at the balance of qualities, the best winter tyre on sale in the UK is actually a better year round tyre than the leading all season contender. The Continental works better in the snow, better in the wet during handling, braking and aquaplaning tests, and in the dry it's only narrowly beaten under dry braking, but wins again during the dry handling tests. We’re waiting for the confirmation of the wet and dry test temperatures, but we believe them to be around 7c.
All tyres are a compromise, and a siped tyre with a compound designed to work in a large range of conditions is more of a compromise than most. Unfortunately, a true all season tyre still doesn't exist, and for optimum year round grip we need to run two sets of tyres. As a summer tyre offers little to no performance in the snow, an all season, or good quality winter tyre can be a sensible year round compromise if you don't want the bother of running two sets of wheels, but want to be mobile regardless of the conditions.
The Continental Winter Contact TS850 has moved the game on for winter tyres, and based on these test results, would anyone question if it was labelled an all season tyre?
caelite said:
Not technically all season but unless your up in the north of Scotland surely some Uniroyal Rainsports (or rainexperts) would do you good all year around.
I can probably manage on £30 summer tyres if I want, and many do, but they're not right for my circumstances. Besides the night and day difference isn't the ability to clear water, it's more the cold grip. The all weather compound tyres feel like normal tyres in the cold where summer tyres tend to feel like they're carved from wood. The stability on snow is quite noticeable as well. Especially on the AS200s which are marked for winter use.
Toyoda said:
MDMA . said:
.......... some outdated information from 2012
The game has moved on and Michelin Crossclimates have had universal praise as a one size fits all compromise. Out of the OP's budget though.I didn't look really hard, but I couldn't find that article on Tyrereviews! In addition to the suggestions above, I would suggest Hankook, Goodyear and Uniroyal make some decent all-season options. All likely to be at least a bit more expensive than the Falkens though.
If you're happy with the Falkens, why not go with them again?
Not much choice from Camskill, Tyreleader got a few more -
https://www.tyreleader.co.uk/car-tyres-225-50-17/?...
https://www.tyreleader.co.uk/car-tyres-225-50-17/?...
MDMA . said:
Prof Prolapse said:
Yes, I've read this previously. What is it you're trying to show me?
well if you have read it, the answer is there. if you just want some all season tyres, buy what you've had before. they have done the job for you.HTH.
Yes, they have done the job before in other cars, but it never hurts to check if you've missed something. I have been reading on each of the tyres suggested and will be making a more informed decision next time around, even if the decision remains the same.
Dog Star said:
Toyoda said:
The game has moved on and Michelin Crossclimates have had universal praise as a one size fits all compromise. Out of the OP's budget though.
Yes - these are the new kid in town and what I'd fit to anything I owned as long as they did the right size.I was hoping someone would suggest the Nexen ones. £65 a corner.
Prof Prolapse said:
I need a set of all season tyres for my work car.
It doesn't need anything particularly special, I only do long runs in it so just tend to chill out, it's just a bit more cold grip and a bit of snow grip that I need. Wet grip is quite important though.
I've previously used Falken AS200s. They're fairly priced and have done me very well especially in snow, but I there anything else I should be looking at in a similar price range? (£88 per 225/50 17R)
Cheers
I run Falken Euroall AS200s on my V70. I intend to do the same with it's replacement, a Merc e220 estate. The tyres have performed faultlessly in all conditions. It doesn't need anything particularly special, I only do long runs in it so just tend to chill out, it's just a bit more cold grip and a bit of snow grip that I need. Wet grip is quite important though.
I've previously used Falken AS200s. They're fairly priced and have done me very well especially in snow, but I there anything else I should be looking at in a similar price range? (£88 per 225/50 17R)
Cheers
MDMA . said:
The Continental Winter Contact TS850 has moved the game on for winter tyres, and based on these test results, would anyone question if it was labelled an all season tyre?
I have these on a car and use it in all seasons. Extremely good in winter (bearing in mind they're not studded tyres so they won't work miracles on a road covered in snow or sheet ice) but I don't particularly like them in summer weather. They don't seem particularly good when the weather is above 10 degrees and it's been raining. If they had more wet grip when it's warm I think I'd call them an all season but you also have to bear in mind that they feel a bit like budget tyres in the hotter months.Michelin all climate are not true all season they are summer plus get home winter tyres, and for the price a bit overrated as well, as not really great performers in all weathers.
I would look at Nokian Weatherproof, very good tyres. if you are buying all season don't skimp on price it is not worth as you just end up with a crap tyre in all seasons.
I would look at Nokian Weatherproof, very good tyres. if you are buying all season don't skimp on price it is not worth as you just end up with a crap tyre in all seasons.
Edited by The Spruce goose on Saturday 1st October 05:26
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