Cyclist Blocked on Pedestrian Crossing

Cyclist Blocked on Pedestrian Crossing

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jamei303

3,001 posts

156 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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plasticpig said:
The pedestrian did have a reason. His reason was to make the cyclist aware they were breaking the law. Perhaps the pedestrian has a sense of civil duty in these matters.
That's not a valid reason in law. The pedestrian must not remain on the crossing for longer than is necessary to cross.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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jamei303 said:
It's not what the law says.
It is. That's what you quoted above.

JQ

5,733 posts

179 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Cyclist is a knob and should have stopped like the guy with the camera did.

Pedestrian is a knob and probably did the car equivalent of brake checking someone.

Had either party not been a knob this event would never have happened.

However, the cyclist was the biggest knob.

jamei303

3,001 posts

156 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Rawwr said:
It is. That's what you quoted above.
No, for Zebras vehicles must "accord precedence". A requirement to stop is specifically mentioned for Pelicans "the red signal shall convey the prohibition that vehicular traffic shall not proceed beyond the stop line". However the requirement to stop is not there for Zebra crossings.

If you think "accord precedence" and "shall not proceed" have identical meanings you are mistaken.

ambuletz

10,724 posts

181 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Camoradi said:
When the cyclist goes through, there are still pedestrians on the crossing coming from the right hand side of frame.
no, they stop in the middle. that's what that traffic island area is meant for.

Finlandia

7,803 posts

231 months

GetCarter

29,373 posts

279 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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caelite said:
GetCarter said:
caelite said:
...not my understanding that on zebra crossing pedestrians have right of way and traffic must stop and allow them to pass
WHAT?!

I hope you don't drive!

From the Highway code:

"you MUST give way when a pedestrian has moved onto a crossing"

Edited by GetCarter on Friday 30th September 15:27
Sorry are you just picking on the fact that the start of my statement was slightly grammatically incorrect or are you really arguing over the wording of my statement.

Yes Pedestrians having right of way means road traffic MUST give way.

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You have changed "not my understanding that on zebra crossing pedestrians have right of way and traffic must stop and allow them to pass"

to "Pedestrians having right of way means road traffic MUST give way"

(After I posted it)

I don't think that is grammar. More U turn wink

ETA... if you just wrote the wrong words, then fine.

So that just leaves us with the fact that you think the bike rider was okay to nearly run down a pedestrian on a pedestrian crossing? (The clue is in the title).

Edited by GetCarter on Friday 30th September 16:15

caelite

4,274 posts

112 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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GetCarter said:
You have changed "not my understanding that on zebra crossing pedestrians have right of way and traffic must stop and allow them to pass"

to "Pedestrians having right of way means road traffic MUST give way"

(After I posted it)

I don't think that is grammar. More U turn wink
I changed 'it is not my understanding' to 'it is my understanding'. You could have figured out the latter was what I meant from the context biggrin.

GetCarter

29,373 posts

279 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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caelite said:
I changed 'it is not my understanding' to 'it is my understanding'. You could have figured out the latter was what I meant from the context biggrin.
see above.

Hol

8,407 posts

200 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Surely all cyclists are up in arms that 6ft of safe distance wasn't given.


Oh wait!. No!. That's only a good idea, when it's the cyclist that wants people to revolve around their needs.


Pistonheads - where the cyclist top trump cards have extra 000's crayoned onto the numbers.laugh

GetCarter

29,373 posts

279 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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caelite said:
I changed 'it is not my understanding' to 'it is my understanding'. You could have figured out the latter was what I meant from the context biggrin.
Top tip. If you say something and mean the opposite, check your grammar wink

GetCarter

29,373 posts

279 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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So next up:

"There was ample room for him to go through"

WHAT?

How would a car driver be judged if it came that close to running someone over on a pedestrian crossing?

frisbee

4,978 posts

110 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Taxi did the same thing on the other half of the crossing. Yay for double standards!

ambuletz

10,724 posts

181 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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frisbee said:
Taxi did the same thing on the other half of the crossing. Yay for double standards!
haha, nice spot. taxi driver did it to the same person that wanted to stop the biker.

GetCarter

29,373 posts

279 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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frisbee said:
Taxi did the same thing on the other half of the crossing. Yay for double standards!
Double standards would need people to say the taxi was correct in his actions. He wasn't. Just like the bike.

GetCarter

29,373 posts

279 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Anyway... outahere. Have fun. (I'm a cyclist BTW)

Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

192 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Zero sympathy for the cyclist, sadly there are more and more cyclists who are overly aggressive and totally ignore all traffic signs and laws.

5/10 for the pedestrian, yes possibly OTT to block him, but then when he initially stepped back was that him trying to get out of the way of the cyclist? Well done for confronting him!

Oh and the taxi on the other side was just as bad!!

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

178 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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GetCarter said:
frisbee said:
Taxi did the same thing on the other half of the crossing. Yay for double standards!
Double standards would need people to say the taxi was correct in his actions. He wasn't. Just like the bike.
Doesn't that setup count as two seperate crossings due to the island ? Technically the pedestrian wasn't on the crossing when the taxi went through...

Zebra crossings. As you approach a zebra crossing

look out for pedestrians waiting to cross and be ready to slow down or stop to let them cross
you MUST give way when a pedestrian has moved onto a crossing
allow more time for stopping on wet or icy roads
do not wave or use your horn to invite pedestrians across; this could be dangerous if another vehicle is approaching
be aware of pedestrians approaching from the side of the crossing.
A zebra crossing with a central island is two separate crossings

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/rules... linky with pictures.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

137 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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I did that once with a bloke on a 125. tt was on the wrong side of road and just drove at a load of us crossing the road. Just stood in front of him both hands pushing on his headlight. Seemed to go on for ages too.

eldar

21,711 posts

196 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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GetCarter said:
Anyway... outahere. Have fun. (I'm a cyclist BTW)
I'd never have guessed smile