Cyclist Blocked on Pedestrian Crossing
Discussion
RichB said:
ThankYouForCalling said:
...refreshing to see the number who had bothered to stop at the crossing!
I seriously don't think they'd have stopped if there wasn't a potential punch about to kick off 
off_again said:
caelite said:
Honestly I dont see a problem with this, There was ample room for him to go through, it is my understanding that on zebra crossing pedestrians have right of way and traffic must stop and allow them to pass, there was not a pedestrian in his way (until he stopped and walked backwards into him).
In my view this would be like driving up to a yield sign, going with no traffic on the junction when suddenly the traffic that has just gone past then stops and reverses into your path. Its not exactly the same as driving through a pedestrian crossing with a lighted system for road traffic.
Ah cool, so its fine for me to go through on my motorcycle then? Pedestrian has passed the part that I need, so I can go. You good with that?In my view this would be like driving up to a yield sign, going with no traffic on the junction when suddenly the traffic that has just gone past then stops and reverses into your path. Its not exactly the same as driving through a pedestrian crossing with a lighted system for road traffic.
Edited by caelite on Friday 30th September 15:32
jamei303 said:
In doing so he remained on the carriageway within the limits of a crossing longer than is necessary for that pedestrian to pass over the crossing with reasonable despatch.
That's an offence under section 25 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984.
The cyclist on the other hand is entirely blameless.
Did you miss the other pedestrian on the crossing, moving from left to right across the frame? The one the cyclist completely failed to stop for? That's an offence under section 25 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984.
The cyclist on the other hand is entirely blameless.
That cyclist was both blameworthy and an a
hole. And I say that as a cyclist.caelite said:
off_again said:
caelite said:
Honestly I dont see a problem with this, There was ample room for him to go through, it is my understanding that on zebra crossing pedestrians have right of way and traffic must stop and allow them to pass, there was not a pedestrian in his way (until he stopped and walked backwards into him).
In my view this would be like driving up to a yield sign, going with no traffic on the junction when suddenly the traffic that has just gone past then stops and reverses into your path. Its not exactly the same as driving through a pedestrian crossing with a lighted system for road traffic.
Ah cool, so its fine for me to go through on my motorcycle then? Pedestrian has passed the part that I need, so I can go. You good with that?In my view this would be like driving up to a yield sign, going with no traffic on the junction when suddenly the traffic that has just gone past then stops and reverses into your path. Its not exactly the same as driving through a pedestrian crossing with a lighted system for road traffic.
Edited by caelite on Friday 30th September 15:32
I am a cyclist (Mountain Biking) so have some sympathy with riders, however there are some complete idiots on 2 wheels out there.
At the traffic lights in the car the other night in the left hand lane, to go straight on (right hand is a right turn only), a cyclist on a fold up bike comes flying past on my right, cuts in front of me just as I am about to move off.
He then proceeds to the next set of lights a few yards away which were red (I stopped), he went straight through them regardless and was nearly hit by a Fiesta coming onto the junction from the left (who was turning right), which had to brake at the last minute! He swerved but carried on.
Couldn't believe his total disregard for traffic rules, other road users or his own life.
I think he may also live near me, although cycling like that he may not be around for much longer!
Who ever thinks running a red light is a good idea, even more so when everything else coming onto the junction is far more solid than you are!
At the traffic lights in the car the other night in the left hand lane, to go straight on (right hand is a right turn only), a cyclist on a fold up bike comes flying past on my right, cuts in front of me just as I am about to move off.
He then proceeds to the next set of lights a few yards away which were red (I stopped), he went straight through them regardless and was nearly hit by a Fiesta coming onto the junction from the left (who was turning right), which had to brake at the last minute! He swerved but carried on.
Couldn't believe his total disregard for traffic rules, other road users or his own life.
I think he may also live near me, although cycling like that he may not be around for much longer!
Who ever thinks running a red light is a good idea, even more so when everything else coming onto the junction is far more solid than you are!
I think that cyclist was a complete and utter bell end and deserved to be confronted for his dumb riding.
City streets are not a good place for racing about on bikes. Commuting at sensible speeds with respect for pedestrians and traffic - fine... going as fast as you can and ignoring traffic laws - not fine.
I've ridden motorbikes into London and I could go far faster than the cyclists but often don't on many roads as there are too many hazards to be watching out for. That bloke on the bike clearly was not paying any attention to the crossing as he hadn't see (or didn't care about) that other bloke crossing left to right.
I was taught that you do not enter a zebra crossing while a pedestrian is still on it, regardless of if you have room to squeeze over.
City streets are not a good place for racing about on bikes. Commuting at sensible speeds with respect for pedestrians and traffic - fine... going as fast as you can and ignoring traffic laws - not fine.
I've ridden motorbikes into London and I could go far faster than the cyclists but often don't on many roads as there are too many hazards to be watching out for. That bloke on the bike clearly was not paying any attention to the crossing as he hadn't see (or didn't care about) that other bloke crossing left to right.
I was taught that you do not enter a zebra crossing while a pedestrian is still on it, regardless of if you have room to squeeze over.
Troubleatmill said:
Cyclist deserves a serious clout around the lug holes.
I'm beginning to think registration plates on bikes should be mandatory
I drove along the M62 this evening between Leeds and Manchester. The cocksocketry I witnessed ranged from weaving in and out of traffic to gain 10 secs (325 convertible), tailgating me in the 40 mph zone beside the crash on the east bound carriageway (red transit), driving down the hard shoulder at junction 22 as they were in such a hurry and so important the law didn't apply to them. I'm beginning to think registration plates on bikes should be mandatory
Guess what all these vehicles had in common? Registration plates. They don't stop drivers behaving like t
ts so why should they stop cyclists behaving like tts?You get idiots using all forms of transport.
Steve (cyclist and driver)
Troubles is that most people here have passed a test and so think they know the rules of the road.
You dont need to pass a test to ride a bike so if you haven't done the above, you just look at what other people do and copy. The guy may well think it's normal to pass behind a moving pedestrian.
Going back to the HC - all it says is you have to give way to pedestrians on a crossing. Like many rules it comes through from boating at sea. It doesn't mean you have to stop, although that would be polite. All you have to do is give way - slow up a bit or alter course to avoid a collision.
Which is what the bike did.
What about a rule that a cyclist should leave as much clearance to a pedestrian as they would when undertaking a truck or bus?
You dont need to pass a test to ride a bike so if you haven't done the above, you just look at what other people do and copy. The guy may well think it's normal to pass behind a moving pedestrian.
Going back to the HC - all it says is you have to give way to pedestrians on a crossing. Like many rules it comes through from boating at sea. It doesn't mean you have to stop, although that would be polite. All you have to do is give way - slow up a bit or alter course to avoid a collision.
Which is what the bike did.
What about a rule that a cyclist should leave as much clearance to a pedestrian as they would when undertaking a truck or bus?
plasticpig said:
The pedestrian did have a reason. His reason was to make the cyclist aware they were breaking the law. Perhaps the pedestrian has a sense of civil duty in these matters.
the pedestrian is as bad as the cyclist, definitely stayed on the crossing longer than was necessary to cross.19. No pedestrian shall remain on the carriageway within the limits of a crossing longer than is necessary for that pedestrian to pass over the crossing with reasonable despatch.
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