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Audi A8, BMW 7 Series or S Class Merc all worked pretty well for me when I was in the back!
But the best interior by far was in an ageing XJ8! Supple leather, good wood (somewhere near Chichester I believe)
and fantastic West of England cloth headlining. And it probably had the best ride of them all.
But the best interior by far was in an ageing XJ8! Supple leather, good wood (somewhere near Chichester I believe)
and fantastic West of England cloth headlining. And it probably had the best ride of them all.My boss has a XJL 5.0 supercharged. It sounds amazing and looks good, but I just can't help feeling, like most JLR products, it isn't the best built machine in the world.
Having ridden in the back and front of a fair few limos, the S-class Merv is still the best. It has the perfect blend of head of state / Russian oligarch / gang land boss feel. Everytime I ride in one it's a treat. My favourite was being picked up from Hong Kong airport in a black S-Class and being driven at speed through Hong Kong at night to the door of a posh hotel.
Having ridden in the back and front of a fair few limos, the S-class Merv is still the best. It has the perfect blend of head of state / Russian oligarch / gang land boss feel. Everytime I ride in one it's a treat. My favourite was being picked up from Hong Kong airport in a black S-Class and being driven at speed through Hong Kong at night to the door of a posh hotel.
Has to be Brabus, for speed the 850bhp S class
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ObpV4v_oQ0
Or for extra legroom, one of their builders vans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWdh9ZogA3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ObpV4v_oQ0
Or for extra legroom, one of their builders vans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWdh9ZogA3I
I was driven in my old W140 for the first time a few days ago... it was surprising how much more relaxing it was to be driven in than to drive. One imagines that the numb recirc. ball steering and stricken tanker levels of roll must have something to do with this! It's still cathedral quiet, and the fat sidewalls with 16" wheels remain a good guarantee for a pliant ride... this is one area where the modern Merc/BM/Audi barges seem to struggle with their 20" wheels. The only thing that lets the side down is the old 4 speed slushmatic, with changes being a lot more noticeable than in any modern equivalent, even from a passenger's perspective.
Anyhow, back on topic, my answer would probably be something like a Rolls Ghost with the smallest wheels available.
Anyhow, back on topic, my answer would probably be something like a Rolls Ghost with the smallest wheels available.
In defence of the XJ, I've run a 3.0d for 3yrs and over 80k (now 123k total) and the only thing that's failed is the washer pump. The car looks no different than it did at 40k and the interior is pristine pretty much. Having tried a CLS and a 7 series the XJ is fantastic precisely because it stands out and from the inside and outside it's so different. Don't get me wrong it's not perfect, it's almost impossible to park and it isn't even the XJL and the seats aren't the best for long journeys, but you've got to respect Jaguar for trying to stamp some individuality into the car.
Chauffeur driven = quality
Quality = Lexus
Sorry boys, but there is no comparison here. Here's a snippet from the wiki page:
Awards[edit]
Notable examples of awards received by the Lexus LS include
(2007) World Car of the Year, International Car of the Year,
(1991) Canadian Car of the Year,[207] Wheels Car of the Year,[208] and Top Gear Limousine of the Year.[209] The Lexus LS has been the highest-rated luxury car in Automobile Magazine,[210] Car and Driver,[211][212] Consumer Reports,[213][214] Fleet World,[215] and MotorWeek.[216]
In J.D. Power's long-term Vehicle Dependability Study, the Lexus LS has been the most reliable car for fifteen consecutive years,[217][218][219] the most for any manufacturer,[220][221][222] and Consumer Reports has ranked the sedan as the most reliable vehicle tested.[223][224][225][226]
Safety awards include Auto Bild's 2007 Innovation Prize for the LS 460 pre-collision system,[227] consecutive first place rankings in the What Car? Security Supertest,[228][229] and Kiplinger's "Best in Safety for Cars $40,000 and Over".[230] Technical honors range from Ward's 10 Best Engines,[231][232] and Edmunds.com's "Best Sound System in Cars Over $30,000".[233]
In U.S. consumer publications, Lexus' flagship model is recognized as one of the most reliable vehicles ever built, having held the top ranking in J.D. Power and Associates' U.S. Vehicle Dependability Survey for fifteen consecutive years (1994–2009), again in 2012,[234] third place in 2013,[235] and top again in 2014.[236]
Quality = Lexus
Sorry boys, but there is no comparison here. Here's a snippet from the wiki page:
Awards[edit]
Notable examples of awards received by the Lexus LS include
(2007) World Car of the Year, International Car of the Year,
(1991) Canadian Car of the Year,[207] Wheels Car of the Year,[208] and Top Gear Limousine of the Year.[209] The Lexus LS has been the highest-rated luxury car in Automobile Magazine,[210] Car and Driver,[211][212] Consumer Reports,[213][214] Fleet World,[215] and MotorWeek.[216]
In J.D. Power's long-term Vehicle Dependability Study, the Lexus LS has been the most reliable car for fifteen consecutive years,[217][218][219] the most for any manufacturer,[220][221][222] and Consumer Reports has ranked the sedan as the most reliable vehicle tested.[223][224][225][226]
Safety awards include Auto Bild's 2007 Innovation Prize for the LS 460 pre-collision system,[227] consecutive first place rankings in the What Car? Security Supertest,[228][229] and Kiplinger's "Best in Safety for Cars $40,000 and Over".[230] Technical honors range from Ward's 10 Best Engines,[231][232] and Edmunds.com's "Best Sound System in Cars Over $30,000".[233]
In U.S. consumer publications, Lexus' flagship model is recognized as one of the most reliable vehicles ever built, having held the top ranking in J.D. Power and Associates' U.S. Vehicle Dependability Survey for fifteen consecutive years (1994–2009), again in 2012,[234] third place in 2013,[235] and top again in 2014.[236]
I think I'd rather be driven in a Phantom
And much cheaper than a new one too:
http://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auctions/2016-06...
And much cheaper than a new one too:
http://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auctions/2016-06...
big_rob_sydney said:
Chauffeur driven = quality
Quality = Lexus
Sorry boys, but there is no comparison here. Here's a snippet from the wiki page:
Awards[edit]
Notable examples of awards received by the Lexus LS include
(2007) World Car of the Year, International Car of the Year,
(1991) Canadian Car of the Year,[207] Wheels Car of the Year,[208] and Top Gear Limousine of the Year.[209] The Lexus LS has been the highest-rated luxury car in Automobile Magazine,[210] Car and Driver,[211][212] Consumer Reports,[213][214] Fleet World,[215] and MotorWeek.[216]
In J.D. Power's long-term Vehicle Dependability Study, the Lexus LS has been the most reliable car for fifteen consecutive years,[217][218][219] the most for any manufacturer,[220][221][222] and Consumer Reports has ranked the sedan as the most reliable vehicle tested.[223][224][225][226]
Safety awards include Auto Bild's 2007 Innovation Prize for the LS 460 pre-collision system,[227] consecutive first place rankings in the What Car? Security Supertest,[228][229] and Kiplinger's "Best in Safety for Cars $40,000 and Over".[230] Technical honors range from Ward's 10 Best Engines,[231][232] and Edmunds.com's "Best Sound System in Cars Over $30,000".[233]
In U.S. consumer publications, Lexus' flagship model is recognized as one of the most reliable vehicles ever built, having held the top ranking in J.D. Power and Associates' U.S. Vehicle Dependability Survey for fifteen consecutive years (1994–2009), again in 2012,[234] third place in 2013,[235] and top again in 2014.[236]
So...safe and reliable.Quality = Lexus
Sorry boys, but there is no comparison here. Here's a snippet from the wiki page:
Awards[edit]
Notable examples of awards received by the Lexus LS include
(2007) World Car of the Year, International Car of the Year,
(1991) Canadian Car of the Year,[207] Wheels Car of the Year,[208] and Top Gear Limousine of the Year.[209] The Lexus LS has been the highest-rated luxury car in Automobile Magazine,[210] Car and Driver,[211][212] Consumer Reports,[213][214] Fleet World,[215] and MotorWeek.[216]
In J.D. Power's long-term Vehicle Dependability Study, the Lexus LS has been the most reliable car for fifteen consecutive years,[217][218][219] the most for any manufacturer,[220][221][222] and Consumer Reports has ranked the sedan as the most reliable vehicle tested.[223][224][225][226]
Safety awards include Auto Bild's 2007 Innovation Prize for the LS 460 pre-collision system,[227] consecutive first place rankings in the What Car? Security Supertest,[228][229] and Kiplinger's "Best in Safety for Cars $40,000 and Over".[230] Technical honors range from Ward's 10 Best Engines,[231][232] and Edmunds.com's "Best Sound System in Cars Over $30,000".[233]
In U.S. consumer publications, Lexus' flagship model is recognized as one of the most reliable vehicles ever built, having held the top ranking in J.D. Power and Associates' U.S. Vehicle Dependability Survey for fifteen consecutive years (1994–2009), again in 2012,[234] third place in 2013,[235] and top again in 2014.[236]
And as dull as anything.
Dusty964 said:
big_rob_sydney said:
Chauffeur driven = quality
Quality = Lexus
Sorry boys, but there is no comparison here. Here's a snippet from the wiki page:
Awards[edit]
Notable examples of awards received by the Lexus LS include
(2007) World Car of the Year, International Car of the Year,
(1991) Canadian Car of the Year,[207] Wheels Car of the Year,[208] and Top Gear Limousine of the Year.[209] The Lexus LS has been the highest-rated luxury car in Automobile Magazine,[210] Car and Driver,[211][212] Consumer Reports,[213][214] Fleet World,[215] and MotorWeek.[216]
In J.D. Power's long-term Vehicle Dependability Study, the Lexus LS has been the most reliable car for fifteen consecutive years,[217][218][219] the most for any manufacturer,[220][221][222] and Consumer Reports has ranked the sedan as the most reliable vehicle tested.[223][224][225][226]
Safety awards include Auto Bild's 2007 Innovation Prize for the LS 460 pre-collision system,[227] consecutive first place rankings in the What Car? Security Supertest,[228][229] and Kiplinger's "Best in Safety for Cars $40,000 and Over".[230] Technical honors range from Ward's 10 Best Engines,[231][232] and Edmunds.com's "Best Sound System in Cars Over $30,000".[233]
In U.S. consumer publications, Lexus' flagship model is recognized as one of the most reliable vehicles ever built, having held the top ranking in J.D. Power and Associates' U.S. Vehicle Dependability Survey for fifteen consecutive years (1994–2009), again in 2012,[234] third place in 2013,[235] and top again in 2014.[236]
So...safe and reliable.Quality = Lexus
Sorry boys, but there is no comparison here. Here's a snippet from the wiki page:
Awards[edit]
Notable examples of awards received by the Lexus LS include
(2007) World Car of the Year, International Car of the Year,
(1991) Canadian Car of the Year,[207] Wheels Car of the Year,[208] and Top Gear Limousine of the Year.[209] The Lexus LS has been the highest-rated luxury car in Automobile Magazine,[210] Car and Driver,[211][212] Consumer Reports,[213][214] Fleet World,[215] and MotorWeek.[216]
In J.D. Power's long-term Vehicle Dependability Study, the Lexus LS has been the most reliable car for fifteen consecutive years,[217][218][219] the most for any manufacturer,[220][221][222] and Consumer Reports has ranked the sedan as the most reliable vehicle tested.[223][224][225][226]
Safety awards include Auto Bild's 2007 Innovation Prize for the LS 460 pre-collision system,[227] consecutive first place rankings in the What Car? Security Supertest,[228][229] and Kiplinger's "Best in Safety for Cars $40,000 and Over".[230] Technical honors range from Ward's 10 Best Engines,[231][232] and Edmunds.com's "Best Sound System in Cars Over $30,000".[233]
In U.S. consumer publications, Lexus' flagship model is recognized as one of the most reliable vehicles ever built, having held the top ranking in J.D. Power and Associates' U.S. Vehicle Dependability Survey for fifteen consecutive years (1994–2009), again in 2012,[234] third place in 2013,[235] and top again in 2014.[236]
And as dull as anything.
Or perhaps your idea of a chauffeur driven car is something unsafe and unreliable?
big_rob_sydney said:
You do realise this thread is about chauffeur driven cars, not F1 rocketships, right?
Or perhaps your idea of a chauffeur driven car is something unsafe and unreliable?
You are right. Its about chauffer driven cars, not F1 or rocketships.Or perhaps your idea of a chauffeur driven car is something unsafe and unreliable?
Nor reliabilty. The best to be a passenger in, and the best to drive.
Having read the article, it mentions 7 series, Rolls Royce and several others.
But not the winner of the JD survey.
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