4 new tyres fitted, no balancing weights
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I've had the wheels off and there are no weights on any of the wheels and no yellow dots. The front tyres have white dots on them but they are 45 and 90 degrees from the valves respectively. Nothing on the rears (they're staggered wheels so different size tyres).
I'll give the fitters a ring on Monday and see what they say. I'm getting the wheels refurbished in a couple of weeks so will get them rebalanced after that.
I'll give the fitters a ring on Monday and see what they say. I'm getting the wheels refurbished in a couple of weeks so will get them rebalanced after that.
benjijames28 said:
Can't answer your question but in curious to know what you think of the Goodyear's so far?
I've done a good 400 mile on mine and am really impressed. At under 90 quid a corner in my expensive side, I'm happy.
They have always been my personal favourite. As you say they are excellent value for money. Quiet and grippy esp. in the wet. I've always found wear to be pretty good too.I've done a good 400 mile on mine and am really impressed. At under 90 quid a corner in my expensive side, I'm happy.
Momentofmadness said:
Does the science really stack up? I have some pea shingle in the garden, might see if I can force some of that down the valve Tango13 said:
The rear wheel on my bike is forged alloy and is machined all over so providing the tyre has been lined up correctly with the valve weights aren't required.
Not correct. Either the wheel or the tyre can be out of balance. The only way to balance a wheel correctly is with wheel and tyre assembled.I got tyres fitted to front wheels locally and they were out of balance. He 'tried' to balance them on 2 further occasions and failed ( I didn't witness any of this 'work') . I took them to another garage and saw the process. He put first one on the machine and found it was out of balance it had 10g on, which he removed and starting form scratch he put 15g on 10 in one place and 5 in another. Onto the second wheel IT HAD NO WEIGHTS, and was out of balance, he added 10g. Both are now good, I suspect the first garage couldn't be bothered or his equipment is faulty, and the lack of any weight is IMHO VERY unusual. I'd expect some weight, even 5g to be necessary always.I imaging the chance of getting 4 wheels/tyres requiring no balance weight would be about the same as getting a winning lottery ticket. As an aside, years ago I even had static balancing done on a set, using a spike and small spirit level and (surprisingly) the results were excellent.
Momentofmadness said:
I read that and had to check the date.CaptainMorgan said:
I dunno how true it is, my mate used to fit tyres, he said there was a mark/line on the tyre, if the wheel was straight and you lined it up fairly well with the valve there was a good chance of balancing it up/using minimal weights. Any truth in it?
From time to time I've discussed the red and yellow dots with tyre fitters and they either had no clue what they were or said they take no notice of them as the balancing machine takes care of any issues.Mind you, a fitter at Costco, where they proudly display their Michelin training certificates, told me the run out bands where to do with which OEM the tyres had been made for.
Fastpedeller said:
sunbeam alpine said:
It is possible - I recently had 4 Toyo Proxes fitted which balanced perfectly without weights.
Have you driven the car yet;) If they indeed are good, then you'd better buy a lottery ticket today!
Ozzie Osmond said:
Tango13 said:
The rear wheel on my bike is forged alloy and is machined all over so providing the tyre has been lined up correctly with the valve weights aren't required.
Not correct. Either the wheel or the tyre can be out of balance. The only way to balance a wheel correctly is with wheel and tyre assembled.Tango13 said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
Tango13 said:
so providing the tyre has been lined up correctly with the valve weights aren't required.
Not correct. Either the wheel or the tyre can be out of balance. The only way to balance a wheel correctly is with wheel and tyre assembled.Better tyres and better wheels are remarkably well balanced.
Conscientious tyre fitters can often balance a wheel and tyres by trial and error rotating the tyre until the imbalance of the tyre and the imbalance of the wheel balance themselves. Of course this cannot be achieved every time however the amount of weights required can always be minimized.
Conscientious tyre fitters can often balance a wheel and tyres by trial and error rotating the tyre until the imbalance of the tyre and the imbalance of the wheel balance themselves. Of course this cannot be achieved every time however the amount of weights required can always be minimized.
InductionRoar said:
Better tyres and better wheels are remarkably well balanced.
Conscientious tyre fitters can often balance a wheel and tyres by trial and error rotating the tyre until the imbalance of the tyre and the imbalance of the wheel balance themselves. Of course this cannot be achieved every time however the amount of weights required can always be minimized.
By trial and error? Never in my experience.Conscientious tyre fitters can often balance a wheel and tyres by trial and error rotating the tyre until the imbalance of the tyre and the imbalance of the wheel balance themselves. Of course this cannot be achieved every time however the amount of weights required can always be minimized.
Riley Blue said:
InductionRoar said:
Better tyres and better wheels are remarkably well balanced.
Conscientious tyre fitters can often balance a wheel and tyres by trial and error rotating the tyre until the imbalance of the tyre and the imbalance of the wheel balance themselves. Of course this cannot be achieved every time however the amount of weights required can always be minimized.
By trial and error? Never in my experience.Conscientious tyre fitters can often balance a wheel and tyres by trial and error rotating the tyre until the imbalance of the tyre and the imbalance of the wheel balance themselves. Of course this cannot be achieved every time however the amount of weights required can always be minimized.
Fastpedeller said:
Judging from the initial balancing of wheels for For Left and myself I worry that in future we'll all have to buy a new car as soon as we need new tyres 
- what is happening when tyrefitters can't even do a simple task like balancing?
You really have no idea how hard it is to find a good wheel balancer. I have been through so many garages, main dealers, small indy's, larger chains - all a bloody joke. I must have been to maybe 18 different places in my life and none of them bar one can wheel balance correctly. - what is happening when tyrefitters can't even do a simple task like balancing?Total Joke.
XMT said:
You really have no idea how hard it is to find a good wheel balancer. I have been through so many garages, main dealers, small indy's, larger chains - all a bloody joke. I must have been to maybe 18 different places in my life and none of them bar one can wheel balance correctly.
Total Joke.
That is crazy. Slightly off topic (only slightly)I wanted the wheels of my trailer balanced. Everywhere I rang they said 'they don't need it'.... Just because they are small or trailer???????. But as soon as the trailer is on the back there is an imbalance which is felt. Also it doesn't matter how small the wheels are, if they are out of balance and spinning (faster because they are smaller) it will show. I checked to make sure they were round! Eventually I found someone willing to do it (mobile guy) and he ended up sticking weights on because of lack of lip to clip them on, but it works - no more wobble at speed. It's simple (ish) science really, why can't tyre fitters be bothered??Total Joke.
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