RE: Ford Focus RS: PH Fleet
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https://youtu.be/ceptrf-ZqaE
Not the fastest car in the World but seems to be beating a lot of cars in youtube videos.
I quite enjoy Fezza ES videos and comparisons. The racing instructor with the CTR seemed to rate it too.
Not the fastest car in the World but seems to be beating a lot of cars in youtube videos.
I quite enjoy Fezza ES videos and comparisons. The racing instructor with the CTR seemed to rate it too.
Ahbefive said:
https://youtu.be/ceptrf-ZqaE
Not the fastest car in the World but seems to be beating a lot of cars in youtube videos.
I quite enjoy Fezza ES videos and comparisons. The racing instructor with the CTR seemed to rate it too.
What a sNot the fastest car in the World but seems to be beating a lot of cars in youtube videos.
I quite enjoy Fezza ES videos and comparisons. The racing instructor with the CTR seemed to rate it too.
te video!Bikebloke said:
There has been people on various forums saying it's to sensitive to road conditions making it a scary car to drive. Are you able to add to this ?
I've never found it scary, but you can induce slightly odd behaviour. Under heavy throttle accelerating in a bend it will seem to try to tighten its line a bit. You're expecting to wash out, but it doesn't. It's hard to explain really, but the first time it's a surprise.If the road is rougher you don't notice it at all, I've only had it a couple of times on completely flat surfaces.
And it's a mild effect, probably only making you only a foot off line or so.
ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
I've never found it scary, but you can induce slightly odd behaviour. Under heavy throttle accelerating in a bend it will seem to try to tighten its line a bit. You're expecting to wash out, but it doesn't. It's hard to explain really, but the first time it's a surprise.
If the road is rougher you don't notice it at all, I've only had it a couple of times on completely flat surfaces.
And it's a mild effect, probably only making you only a foot off line or so.
That's exactly what a fwd with a diff does as standard? Is the FRS fwd most of the time?If the road is rougher you don't notice it at all, I've only had it a couple of times on completely flat surfaces.
And it's a mild effect, probably only making you only a foot off line or so.
Alpinestars said:
ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
I've never found it scary, but you can induce slightly odd behaviour. Under heavy throttle accelerating in a bend it will seem to try to tighten its line a bit. You're expecting to wash out, but it doesn't. It's hard to explain really, but the first time it's a surprise.
If the road is rougher you don't notice it at all, I've only had it a couple of times on completely flat surfaces.
And it's a mild effect, probably only making you only a foot off line or so.
That's exactly what a fwd with a diff does as standard? Is the FRS fwd most of the time?If the road is rougher you don't notice it at all, I've only had it a couple of times on completely flat surfaces.
And it's a mild effect, probably only making you only a foot off line or so.
If you've ever driven a 300ZX with super-hicas it's a bit like that, tips you into the bend a bit more. When it's super-hicas working properly that is IE not full of air with a lazy pump and iffy bushes etc etc
I suspect that the people having scary times are pressing the damper button. It really isn't an option for the road, you could see that being bounce bounce bounce ditch!
ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
No I think it's rear biased if anything well feels like it, but I know what you mean. It's hard to explain the effect to be honest and rare, for me anyway, and not really a problem.
If you've ever driven a 300ZX with super-hicas it's a bit like that, tips you into the bend a bit more. When it's super-hicas working properly that is IE not full of air with a lazy pump and iffy bushes etc etc
I suspect that the people having scary times are pressing the damper button. It really isn't an option for the road, you could see that being bounce bounce bounce ditch!
A DC2 does something similar. Tugs you in and requires a bit of unwinding of steering lock. From memory the Gen 1 FRS was similar but didn't feel as mobile at the back. If you've ever driven a 300ZX with super-hicas it's a bit like that, tips you into the bend a bit more. When it's super-hicas working properly that is IE not full of air with a lazy pump and iffy bushes etc etc
I suspect that the people having scary times are pressing the damper button. It really isn't an option for the road, you could see that being bounce bounce bounce ditch!
Alpinestars said:
That's exactly what a fwd with a diff does as standard? Is the FRS fwd most of the time?
The rears are permanently powered unless the clutches activate (i.e it never decouples power to the rear RDU).The rear is overdriven by 2% so the car is always charged ready for a corner, if there are no corners and you'r sat on a motorway then it will activate the clutch packs and that cancels out the overdriven rears.
On a bend or roundabout it will put power to the rear hence the tighter line (remember the Focus has no clever front diff) so what you have is torque vectoring on the rear done by clutch packs
Having come from fwd with a Wavetrac diff fitted it is a bit of an unusual feeling the first time, but I've spent time on my "experimental" roundabout and this thing will go round it quicker than anything I've ever been in, in fact I'd be confident enough to say it would go round the outer 2nd lane of the roundabout quicker than I could do it in my old fwd diff'd car both running the same MPSS tyres on the inside lane!
A few have fitted the front Quaife with positive " even more of the same" type results
IanJ9375 said:
The rears are permanently powered unless the clutches activate (i.e it never decouples power to the rear RDU).
The rear is overdriven by 2% so the car is always charged ready for a corner, if there are no corners and you'r sat on a motorway then it will activate the clutch packs and that cancels out the overdriven rears.
On a bend or roundabout it will put power to the rear hence the tighter line (remember the Focus has no clever front diff) so what you have is torque vectoring on the rear done by clutch packs
Having come from fwd with a Wavetrac diff fitted it is a bit of an unusual feeling the first time, but I've spent time on my "experimental" roundabout and this thing will go round it quicker than anything I've ever been in, in fact I'd be confident enough to say it would go round the outer 2nd lane of the roundabout quicker than I could do it in my old fwd diff'd car both running the same MPSS tyres on the inside lane!
A few have fitted the front Quaife with positive " even more of the same" type results
Thanks.The rear is overdriven by 2% so the car is always charged ready for a corner, if there are no corners and you'r sat on a motorway then it will activate the clutch packs and that cancels out the overdriven rears.
On a bend or roundabout it will put power to the rear hence the tighter line (remember the Focus has no clever front diff) so what you have is torque vectoring on the rear done by clutch packs
Having come from fwd with a Wavetrac diff fitted it is a bit of an unusual feeling the first time, but I've spent time on my "experimental" roundabout and this thing will go round it quicker than anything I've ever been in, in fact I'd be confident enough to say it would go round the outer 2nd lane of the roundabout quicker than I could do it in my old fwd diff'd car both running the same MPSS tyres on the inside lane!
A few have fitted the front Quaife with positive " even more of the same" type results
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