RE: Honda Civic Type R (EK9): PH Heroes
Discussion
Awesome cars. Gearbox is the same as the 96 spec DC2 import type R, which has a longer final drive than all of the UK or 98 spec JDM, albeit with a shorter 4th and 5th gear. The EK9 box with UK/98 final drive is a great combo if you don't spend too much time on motorways. The engine is a little belter too, rather than being a tuned B16, it's actually a de-stroked 1.8 type R B18 with the 10mm taller block allowing longer rods to give a better rod/stroke ratio for the high revs.
The UK VTI was 158 bhp and nowhere near as fast.
DC2 and EK9 will always be the best type R's......and with a mildly modded K20 engine slotted in insanely fast for a NA four pot.
The UK VTI was 158 bhp and nowhere near as fast.
DC2 and EK9 will always be the best type R's......and with a mildly modded K20 engine slotted in insanely fast for a NA four pot.
I have driven these stripped Hondas' so long most everything else seems overweight. An Ek9/Dc2 will humble most anything wet or dry in relative safety. Only time I managed to get my integra broadside was backing off at speed on an uphill tightening right hander. Didn't even touch the brakes but went in a bit hot in the cold. However still kept it on the blacktop due to the LSD. Nothing else will do. I use them as daily transport.
I do however hate most frivolous creature comforts. I would need to eat lard day and night with Jeff Capes, Shirley Crabtree aka Big Daddy, John Candy maybe John Goodman from the flinstones and then all step into my integra, to replicate post modern car obesity.
Balance in all the Honda's control weights and chassis is the key. The screaming vtec engine addictive enough to get up early on a Sunday morning for. Power to weight impresses me more than ultimate power.
I do however hate most frivolous creature comforts. I would need to eat lard day and night with Jeff Capes, Shirley Crabtree aka Big Daddy, John Candy maybe John Goodman from the flinstones and then all step into my integra, to replicate post modern car obesity.
Balance in all the Honda's control weights and chassis is the key. The screaming vtec engine addictive enough to get up early on a Sunday morning for. Power to weight impresses me more than ultimate power.
What a great car. Had a lot of Honda's multiple DC2s, DC5s, EK9 Cup Car, EP3 Supercharged track car, S2000 and a crazy 500HP Turbo Accord Type R I built. But which one would I choose for out and out fun, the EK9. Really enjoy driving it, its amazing fun on a A/B road, and I have the most fun in bashing it around the ring on the limit.
A true hero!
This is my brothers EK9, He will never sell it.
A true hero!
This is my brothers EK9, He will never sell it.
I've always loved this civic and infact this era of Honda and their type R's. Don't understand why they didn't offer the later EP civic type R in white aswell, it just suits jap cars. It's a shame the normal car is so rare. The coupe seems to command silly prices and even more so for the type R, with one on fleabay going for £13k. pffft.
ambuletz said:
I've always loved this civic and infact this era of Honda and their type R's. Don't understand why they didn't offer the later EP civic type R in white aswell, it just suits jap cars. It's a shame the normal car is so rare. The coupe seems to command silly prices and even more so for the type R, with one on fleabay going for £13k. pffft.
They did. JDM ones were championship white. 
Edited by MDMA . on Wednesday 19th October 19:16
havoc said:
The B16C is a peakier engine still than the Integra's B18C, so the EK9 is even more on/off and needs even more thrashing to get the pace out of. A not-uncommon mod is to transplant the B18 into the EK9 body, which some suggest is the best of both worlds*...
Chassis - some prefer the EK9 to the DC2 (also part seam-welded) - EK9 is more of a go-kart, with an even-more-resilient front-end, but the DC2 feels a little more adjustable - it feels a little more willing to wag it's tail, in a very on-your-side way not in an old-school French "whoah, where'd that come from?" way. All depends on your preferred style, really.
Brakes/gearbox are I think identical - not sure if the EK9 has a shorter final-drive. The interiors are very very similar - same good points / same bad points.
If I get another one I'll go DC2 for a 3rd time as I'm still in love with that machine (and it looks so much better), but I've a ton of respect for the EK9 and a nagging suspicion that, mid-range aside, it might just edge the DC2 as a driver's machine...
* Some philistines prefer the K20!
(More seriously, K20 is a better real-world engine with, in JDM-tune at least, a ridiculously-good mid-range for a VTEC and a similar redline to the hardcore B-series lumps. JDM versions also sound very good, albeit in a more mechanical/metallic way than the almost-organic 'snarl' of the DC2/EK9 engines. A wrung-out DC2 in cold winter air is about as good as a fuel-injected 4-pot can ever sound, to me - every bit as good as a roller-barrel TB'd high-spec Caterham engine)
Great post. Chassis - some prefer the EK9 to the DC2 (also part seam-welded) - EK9 is more of a go-kart, with an even-more-resilient front-end, but the DC2 feels a little more adjustable - it feels a little more willing to wag it's tail, in a very on-your-side way not in an old-school French "whoah, where'd that come from?" way. All depends on your preferred style, really.
Brakes/gearbox are I think identical - not sure if the EK9 has a shorter final-drive. The interiors are very very similar - same good points / same bad points.
If I get another one I'll go DC2 for a 3rd time as I'm still in love with that machine (and it looks so much better), but I've a ton of respect for the EK9 and a nagging suspicion that, mid-range aside, it might just edge the DC2 as a driver's machine...
* Some philistines prefer the K20!
(More seriously, K20 is a better real-world engine with, in JDM-tune at least, a ridiculously-good mid-range for a VTEC and a similar redline to the hardcore B-series lumps. JDM versions also sound very good, albeit in a more mechanical/metallic way than the almost-organic 'snarl' of the DC2/EK9 engines. A wrung-out DC2 in cold winter air is about as good as a fuel-injected 4-pot can ever sound, to me - every bit as good as a roller-barrel TB'd high-spec Caterham engine)
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