Anyone into cars but not credit?

Anyone into cars but not credit?

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theboss

6,913 posts

219 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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NickCQ said:
Audemars said:
As for a £850k house generating a rental of only £1750, that is very far from the norm and the landlord in that case is not financially astute.
2.5% gross rental yield seems a little skinny, I grant you, but the data supports it for more 'exclusive' London postcodes (not that you'd get much for £850k in any of them), link below. A figure around 3 - 3.5% may be more reasonable, and as I mentioned above, without expectations of capital growth there's very little financial advantage to buying rather than renting at those levels.

http://www.londonpropertywatch.co.uk/average_renta...

Actually, looks like you have to go pretty far out (i.e. where I live!) to get over 3.5%

https://www.portico.com/yields
Depends where you are living - in the sticks its not unusual to see large scale homes which are expensive to buy let for comparitively little. The last few homes I have rented have been worth £500k or so, and I paid rents of £1100 for one and £1250 for the other. As you go up the ladder the disproportionality only increases - I've seen houses £1m or more to buy available to rent for low £2000's. It's more of a rural phenomena than region specific - my brother lives in rural South Bucks yet rents a ~£450k house for £1200.

For the record I have a PCP'd M5 and leased Golf R and rent, so I'm doing it all wrong. But I enjoy the cars, love where I live and don't give a fk what the non-existent neighbours think.

Edited by theboss on Monday 24th October 13:46

okgo

38,037 posts

198 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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daemon said:
You said there was a report extract that said if people had £1000 savings the bankruptcy rate would go down significantly.

You would need to have an awful lot more in financial assets to stop going bankrupt than £1000

Hence why it's nonsense.

HTH
My mistake it was - Anti-debt charity Step Change says that, if every household in the UK had £1,000 saved, it would reduce the number falling into problem debt by half a million.

Not bankruptcy, you're correct.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Cant people just accept that some people will chose to finance a car, and how they manage their money is quite probably something they deal with privately, so surmising about how they could otherwise spend their savings (if they have any) doesnt actually provide any sort of solid argument either way.

If you have available income to purchase a car, or chose to purchase much cheaper cars you can afford outright, that's good and can work well (proving you have a slush fund in case of a major issue), but choosing to lease/rent a more expensive car without any of the older used car (potential) issues may be a much more attractive prospect to some.

In my case I have been burnt on a couple used cars recently, and am absolutely sick of having an older car that is problematic, and spending more and more money on keeping it running. It becomes a diminishing return to keep it running, and it took away any enjoyment of ownership.

Colonial

13,553 posts

205 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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So... anyone into cars but doesn't give a flying fk how other people pay for them, where they live or their house ownership status?

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Yes, me.

Colonial

13,553 posts

205 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Devil2575 said:
Yes, me.
Thank christ for that. I thought I was the only one.

MrBarry123

6,027 posts

121 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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And me.

daemon

35,821 posts

197 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Me too.

And nor do I give a fk about the impact on the global economy of the particular purchase or rental option that I take.


supercommuter

2,169 posts

102 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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AshBurrows said:
gizlaroc said:
So maybe your tenants who rent off you and have an M4 aren't as dumb as you make out?
Well, they're fictional for starters!
Quite! who rents a house/flat but drives an M4?

supercommuter

2,169 posts

102 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Colonial said:
So... anyone into cars but doesn't give a flying fk how other people pay for them, where they live or their house ownership status?
Haha Yes.

Thread synopsis:
Credit works for some and some people are 'in to it'...
Buying with cash works for some and some people are 'in to it'....


Edited by supercommuter on Monday 24th October 14:48

BobSaunders

3,033 posts

155 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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supercommuter said:
Colonial said:
So... anyone into cars but doesn't give a flying fk how other people pay for them, where they live or their house ownership status?
Haha Yes.

Thread synopsis:
Credit works for some and some people are 'in to it'...
Buying with cash works for some and some people are 'in to it'....


Edited by supercommuter on Monday 24th October 14:48
Someone has to buy the new cars to allow me to buy the second hand ones. I thank all financiers for eliminating a large chunk of the the bath tub depreciation value.

ChasW

2,135 posts

202 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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I hope he survives the inevitable rise in interest rates. I consider myself lucky that I lived through 15.5% interest rates (my first mortgage) and, later on, one full scale property crash. When you know what can happen a degree of caution sets in.

BobSaunders

3,033 posts

155 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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ChasW said:
I hope he survives the inevitable rise in interest rates. I consider myself lucky that I lived through 15.5% interest rates (my first mortgage) and, later on, one full scale property crash. When you know what can happen a degree of caution sets in.
Not sure if this is in response to what i just posted and deleted? If so - yes, hence offering a roof over their head and paying off any debts.

if not - sorry!

Driver101

14,376 posts

121 months

ChasW

2,135 posts

202 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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BobSaunders said:
ChasW said:
I hope he survives the inevitable rise in interest rates. I consider myself lucky that I lived through 15.5% interest rates (my first mortgage) and, later on, one full scale property crash. When you know what can happen a degree of caution sets in.
Not sure if this is in response to what i just posted and deleted? If so - yes, hence offering a roof over their head and paying off any debts.

if not - sorry!
Meant for you Bob.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Driver101 said:
For some reason, I read each instance of POS as 'piece of st' in that link. smile

Am I right in thinking that 85% of new car sales recently were all financed?

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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funkyrobot said:
For some reason, I read each instance of POS as 'piece of st' in that link. smile

Am I right in thinking that 85% of new car sales recently were all financed?
People always borrowed money to buy new cars, or second hand ones that's hardly anything new, but in generations past people got bank loans or loans from employers etc... Leasing and other financing deals were just a way for the manufacturers to make a bit of extra money and take a bit of control over how their motors are bought and resold.

One of the reasons I've never leased or HP is I don't quite like the idea of having a fixed deadline date when I have to let go of one car and sort myself out a new one, it must be terribly anxiety inducing. I like the idea of just running a car I don't need to pay for for as long as it takes me to sort out a new one.

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

130 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Do any of you own a aneros?

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Nickbrapp said:
Do any of you own a aneros?
I have two.

ChilliWhizz

11,992 posts

161 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Colonial said:
Devil2575 said:
Yes, me.
Thank christ for that. I thought I was the only one.
Another one here smile



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