RE: Mountune Fiesta MR265
Discussion
havoc said:
E65Ross said:
havoc said:
Am I the only one who thinks those Mountune torque curves look thoroughly sh'te?!?
I mean, great, a whacking great initial slug of torque* as the turbo cuts in, then 3,000rpm of disappointment before you hit the rev limiter.
That's the torque, not the bhp. Most cars are similar, especially NA cars (which I know this isn't)I mean, great, a whacking great initial slug of torque* as the turbo cuts in, then 3,000rpm of disappointment before you hit the rev limiter.
At least I assume that's what causes the curves to jump upwards suddenly.
Alias218 said:
That S2000 torque/power curve is amusing. A visual representation of VTEC y0!
At least I assume that's what causes the curves to jump upwards suddenly.
Yeah that's VTEC. It's actually not as violent as the graph makes it look. Very easy to manage and not that easy to detect when driving in all honesty.At least I assume that's what causes the curves to jump upwards suddenly.
RenOHH said:
pti said:
If you use the throttle as an on/of switch, maybe. IMO it makes a big difference.
IMO a car with the level of power and torque this one has shouldn't have problems with the wheel pulling left/right like the ST does. You don't need to treat the throttle like an on/off switch, the torque comes on low enough that it twitches about at modest throttle application.vanschpunk said:
Not much more than the MP215 Fiesta i had, which i partially got rid of, for being a mind numbing 215PS that drove pretty much like my dads 1.0L Focus Zetec S.
Yet you claim your Fiesta lights up the wheels and "cannot cope" with 225bhp?? Bet you are the type to sleep with the lights?? #exaggeratedmuch
I am lost on this post ? can you go into more detail please.Yet you claim your Fiesta lights up the wheels and "cannot cope" with 225bhp?? Bet you are the type to sleep with the lights?? #exaggeratedmuch
the ST3 with 225 bhp is like a 1l Focus !!
and yes in the damp like others have said one can light up the wheels in 3rd gear no issue.
Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 21st October 13:19
WCZ said:
my girlfriends mp215 is bad for traction in the wet but spinning in 3rd in the dry!? surprised other peoples cars are doing that.
I think the car needs more power and 265 is probably about right, they are solid cars
What does it need the significant power for? To make it harder to gain traction, or just to increase the frequency of tyre fitter visits?I think the car needs more power and 265 is probably about right, they are solid cars
Aware I may sound like an old fart, but the ST is so incredibly well sorted, that a large power hike would be way down on my list of things to do if I owned one. To me, it seems like a bit of a waste of money and that power could end up hindering the experience of what the car is actually about rather than enhancing it's skills. Never mind eh, maybe it's just me.
AMGJocky said:
What does it need the significant power for? To make it harder to gain traction, or just to increase the frequency of tyre fitter visits?
Aware I may sound like an old fart, but the ST is so incredibly well sorted, that a large power hike would be way down on my list of things to do if I owned one. To me, it seems like a bit of a waste of money and that power could end up hindering the experience of what the car is actually about rather than enhancing it's skills. Never mind eh, maybe it's just me.
it doesn't break traction apart from in the wet though.Aware I may sound like an old fart, but the ST is so incredibly well sorted, that a large power hike would be way down on my list of things to do if I owned one. To me, it seems like a bit of a waste of money and that power could end up hindering the experience of what the car is actually about rather than enhancing it's skills. Never mind eh, maybe it's just me.
just feels a tad underpowered in general imo
Mike1990 said:
With some choice upgrades, Quaife ATB 'Diff, stickier Tyres and perhaps some other fancy parts, i bet it would be a riot to drive and would have zero issues handling the power.
And if my Aunt had a dick she'd be my Uncle!If we're talking about properly modifying cars, there's a lot better places to start from...
havoc said:
Mike1990 said:
With some choice upgrades, Quaife ATB 'Diff, stickier Tyres and perhaps some other fancy parts, i bet it would be a riot to drive and would have zero issues handling the power.
And if my Aunt had a dick she'd be my Uncle!If we're talking about properly modifying cars, there's a lot better places to start from...
Once you've done all that, you'd need to do something about the rear suspension, and then the numb steering, and then....
Just reading this thread with interest and sounds like you might need some wider tyres.
I know the ST uses 205 wide rubber and my Polo gti wears 215 wide and it has no troubles whatsoever for traction and doesn't wheelspin in the dry unless you are proper hoofing it out of a second gear corner with the wheels not quite at the right angle (straight)
Torque steer is also not a problem at all!
I believe it also shares the same rubber (potenza s001) which i've not had any problems with at all.
Bare in mind that when it's on the dyno they seem to be making around the same power and torque as standard as the Mountune stage 1 kit and people say the Fiesta is the better car so sounds odd that so many people are saying it can't handle the power in even 215/230 form!
I know the ST uses 205 wide rubber and my Polo gti wears 215 wide and it has no troubles whatsoever for traction and doesn't wheelspin in the dry unless you are proper hoofing it out of a second gear corner with the wheels not quite at the right angle (straight)
Torque steer is also not a problem at all!
I believe it also shares the same rubber (potenza s001) which i've not had any problems with at all.
Bare in mind that when it's on the dyno they seem to be making around the same power and torque as standard as the Mountune stage 1 kit and people say the Fiesta is the better car so sounds odd that so many people are saying it can't handle the power in even 215/230 form!
abucd4 said:
Mines on budgets (don't ask - bleeding dealer) and even I don't get torque steer unless I drive like a tit.
Spins in the wet if I want it to, but with a modicum of throttle control its fine, really don't get where most of you are coming from...
You don't buy an ST to drive it like a grandad.Spins in the wet if I want it to, but with a modicum of throttle control its fine, really don't get where most of you are coming from...
All that jazz said:
abucd4 said:
Mines on budgets (don't ask - bleeding dealer) and even I don't get torque steer unless I drive like a tit.
Spins in the wet if I want it to, but with a modicum of throttle control its fine, really don't get where most of you are coming from...
You don't buy an ST to drive it like a grandad.Spins in the wet if I want it to, but with a modicum of throttle control its fine, really don't get where most of you are coming from...
Driving on icy slushy roads yesterday was a different story though, if I touched the throttle in second it was spinning up in an instant.
Early/mid 20s guy with an ST - guilty! Wouldn't change it for anything at the moment though, short of maybe a GT86 or a Cayman.
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