Macan/RangeRover/SQ5 or ???

[Wayne58]

J4CKO said:

Macan, normally soft roader SUV type things arent my thing but I can see why people like them but the Macan is a good looking, well proportioned thing, can totally see how Porsche cant build them fast enough, I know purists hate them but I am not one of those, would love one to be honest, a petrol one just to be sociable on here.

Yeah, it is top of my list so far, see what happens with my Audi first as I refuse to trade it in at the insulting prices I've been quoted..... Dealers!!! Arrrggghhh!!! Flaming greedy crooks.

[anonymous-user]

Wayne58 said:

RR is something I am going to try next, not the SVR though, as my names not Sheikh and I dont own BP, but will definitely try a diesel version. Am a little worried about quality with RR though as I tried the F-Pace yesterday and the interior quality was....erm ? Questionable

RRS or FFRR ?

RRS a little bit more dynamic but nothing like a Macan when comparing diesel vs diesel. FFRR a unique driving experience and a real sense of occasion. Build quality has been spot on in our last four LR/RRS , beware the infotainment systems in JLR products though, functional but nowhere near the standards of latest idrive/mmi/comand

Good luck !

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 23 October 18:52

[Welshbeef]

Wayne58 said:

Checked it out, bloody expensive, once specced up, it's circa 80k, which is strong money, and at that wedge, there's alot of competition, it's even an SUV plus a second car for fun too.

Are you not looking at RRS & FFRR so the £80k yes is high but if considering new versions of those cars then it's the budget

[Wayne58]

Thanks @rsk21

[TVR1]

Wayne58 said:

Was told about the new Q5 yesterday while at Audi, did kinda put me off buying the current one TBH, I accept depreciation in a car, but buying one thats out of date the minute you leave the showroom ? And the fact the dealer said there would be zero discount on current model, even though new one is imminent.

But there is also an interesting conundrum with that. Q5 and Q7 are purchased by broadly the same demographic. One trades up when needed, The other trades down when the kids have left home. Yes, initially there is a softening of values but then, once the first of new cars have sold, and the only availability of the new car is 4monthsvaway or a not discounted demo, suddenly, the last of the old (Q5 plus Special Editions in 190 form are seriously nice) are suddenly an attractive proposition. However, the last of the old soon become 12-18 months old, so no ex demos/Audi cars left. The only option is a second hand trade in BUT who is trading in a 12-18 months old car? Wrong time in the change cycle. Result? Very firm pricing. Q7 is a case in point. We are paying the same as we were selling for, 1 year ago, a 2 or so years old Q7 at the moment.

I can't see Q5 doing differently. SQ5 production is nearly over. Currently, I can put you in a lovely SQ5, 2014 plate 22k miles, roof, B&O ,memory seats, climate cup holders,extended leather, drive select and dynamic steering for £35k. People start really questioning which is better value when asked for £45k or so for a standard new, 2.0d S-Line model.

Can't get enough SQ5 at the moment because of this. A really smart buy at the moment.

[DuckDuck]

I originally put a deposit down on a petrol Macan over year ago and I wish I had went through with it, the test drive was (turbo) great. Instead, I went for what I had previously, a 535d, which in hindsight was a mistake but circumstances meant I had little choice.

Looking now, there looks like some great cars just released or about to be next year. GLC and GLC coupe with an AMG 43 version coming. Having seen but not driven the GLC it looks great and for me would be up there. Also new X3 next year.

So lets see:

F Pace - Like
New X3 next year
X4 - Yuck
GLC and GLC coupe - Like
Macan, must be due an update/revision soon as the new Q5 will be out.

My heart says the Macan S petrol

Duck

[Wayne58]

Welshbeef said:

Are you not looking at RRS & FFRR so the £80k yes is high but if considering new versions of those cars then it's the budget

No mate, was looking at new macan and Q5 but if RR would have looked at near new, don't really wanna go too far over my Audi sale price as just had new Ducati very recently. I don't do pcp's or credit etc, so just gonna buy it, and don't really wanna pile loads more in. A bit more maybe, but just trying to keep it sensible

[Wayne58]

DuckDuck said:

I originally put a deposit down on a petrol Macan over year ago and I wish I had went through with it, the test drive was (turbo) great. Instead, I went for what I had previously, a 535d, which in hindsight was a mistake but circumstances meant I had little choice.

Looking now, there looks like some great cars just released or about to be next year. GLC and GLC coupe with an AMG 43 version coming. Having seen but not driven the GLC it looks great and for me would be up there. Also new X3 next year.

So lets see:

F Pace - Like
New X3 next year
X4 - Yuck
GLC and GLC coupe - Like
Macan, must be due an tupdate/revision soon as the new Q5 will be out.

My heart says the Macan S petrol

Duck

Great car though, we have 335D for near four years, great car, fantastic engine.

[anonymous-user]

Wayne58 said:

No mate, was looking at new macan and Q5 but if RR would have looked at near new, don't really wanna go too far over my Audi sale price as just had new Ducati very recently. I don't do pcp's or credit etc, so just gonna buy it, and don't really wanna pile loads more in. A bit more maybe, but just trying to keep it sensible

The more I think about it the more I say go for the Macan - residuals are spot on, buy a new Diesel S with a decent spec but not too mental on the options. run it for a year then chop it in at not far off list for a 911

Have a nose around www.macanownersclub.co.uk/forum/forums to get some decent insight.

[kmpowell]

Wayne58 said:

Checked it out, bloody expensive, once specced up, it's circa 80k, which is strong money, and at that wedge, there's alot of competition, it's even an SUV plus a second car for fun too.

You think the options list is bad, take your £80k+ car then check out the GFV depreciation over 2 and 3 years. It's mind-blowingly frightening!

[Wayne58]

kmpowell said:

You think the options list is bad, take your £80k+ car then check out the GFV depreciation over 2 and 3 years. It's mind-blowingly frightening!

That's gonna be the hardest bit of changing car, after 911's which have risen, and my Audi which has held steady, entering the world of big depreciation again.....scary, but I plan to keep next car a long time

[Wayne58]

RSK21 said:

The more I think about it the more I say go for the Macan - residuals are spot on, buy a new Diesel S with a decent spec but not too mental on the options. run it for a year then chop it in at not far off list for a 911

Have a nose around www.macanownersclub.co.uk/forum/forums to get some decent insight.

Thanks but not sure that macan bubble will last, as I spoke to dealer today, and wait list is now only 4-5 months, so prices should start falling ??

[aeropilot]

Wayne58 said:

RSK21 said:

The more I think about it the more I say go for the Macan - residuals are spot on, buy a new Diesel S with a decent spec but not too mental on the options. run it for a year then chop it in at not far off list for a 911

Have a nose around www.macanownersclub.co.uk/forum/forums to get some decent insight.

Thanks but not sure that macan bubble will last, as I spoke to dealer today, and wait list is now only 4-5 months, so prices should start falling ??

Macan diesel waiting times have been down to only 4-5 months since early this year.

The V6 petrol models still have a 9-12+ month waiting time, and its those V6 petrol models that have the cast iron residuals, not the V6 diesel or 4 cyl petrol models.

[Wayne58]

aeropilot said:

Macan diesel waiting times have been down to only 4-5 months since early this year.

The V6 petrol models still have a 9-12+ month waiting time, and its those V6 petrol models that have the cast iron residuals, not the V6 diesel or 4 cyl petrol models.

Which makes it staggering when folk advertise 2 year old fairly low spec Macans with 30-40k miles on them at over £40k ?? Why would you buy used at them prices ??