Strange leaner driver cars

Strange leaner driver cars

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Levin

2,031 posts

125 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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RedWhiteMonkey said:
Possibly, but 140kph isn't that impressive and potentially quite slow on most sections of the Autobahn (I live in Germany). When people do they Autobahn training here they would be expected to do the speed that the rest of the traffic and 140kph isn't unusual. I suppose the instructor could have been scared if his bonnet was moving at that speed.
TIL! I've been to Germany, but spent very little time on the autobahn.

senorblm

177 posts

119 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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A guy near me still uses a rover 75 (2002). How he gets any business I do not know...

Downward

3,639 posts

104 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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My driving instructor had a 9 year old Fiesta which I learned to drive in.
Mk2 I think D reg.


RosscoPCole

3,332 posts

175 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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I always thought it strange when I saw a mk 1 or 2 Toyota Yaris being used by driving schools as the dials can only be seen by the driver, so how does the instructor see how fast, etc the tutee is going?

Benni

3,517 posts

212 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Well 140 mph it wasn´t , but the speedo was about (optimistic) 190 Km/h, just flat out and it was exciting.
Fastest I had ever been in a car, the Golf was moving about in the lane, feeling light,
and the bonnet did some up/down movement in the tin, or maybe the latch/rubber stops were not properly aligned.

DaveH23

3,239 posts

171 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Quite a few 1 series and Cooper S around my way.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

234 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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I'm always surprised by German learner cars, C class Mercedes and that sort of thing

never a Corsa or a Fiesta or whatever

also bike lessons, they never follow on another bike, always in a car

ikarl

3,730 posts

200 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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RedWhiteMonkey said:
Possibly, but 140kph isn't that impressive and potentially quite slow on most sections of the Autobahn (I live in Germany). When people do they Autobahn training here they would be expected to do the speed that the rest of the traffic and 140kph isn't unusual. I suppose the instructor could have been scared if his bonnet was moving at that speed.
Depends when it was. If it was last year, it probably wasn't that impressive. If it was early 80's however..

benjijames28

1,702 posts

93 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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I learnt in a diesel Hyundai i30, probably a 2010 model. Great car to learn in.

The same driving school switched to audi a3 just after I passed my test. No doubt got a good lease contract.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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ikarl said:
RedWhiteMonkey said:
Possibly, but 140kph isn't that impressive and potentially quite slow on most sections of the Autobahn (I live in Germany). When people do they Autobahn training here they would be expected to do the speed that the rest of the traffic and 140kph isn't unusual. I suppose the instructor could have been scared if his bonnet was moving at that speed.
Depends when it was. If it was last year, it probably wasn't that impressive. If it was early 80's however..
I'm guessing it was when the mk1 Golf was current or nearly current. Late 1970s to mid 1980s

ChrisR99

452 posts

112 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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I partially learnt in a year old Peugeot 208 over the summer, but did my test in my own car (2014 Focus) as I couldn't put up with the Pugs lack of power! Was nice to drive though, just needed a better engine. laugh

There seems to be one or two A3's covered in livery around here, but mainly Peugeots, Fiestas and Corsas.

Not a learner car, but I saw a brand new 66 plate Q7 with L's on the other week confused

AH33

2,066 posts

136 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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I passed my test in a Mini Cooper S, back in 2003. The instructor used to smoke a fat cigar as well with the window cracked about an inch. Now I speed all the time and smoke, and it's his fault.

RedWhiteMonkey

6,864 posts

183 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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ikarl said:
RedWhiteMonkey said:
Possibly, but 140kph isn't that impressive and potentially quite slow on most sections of the Autobahn (I live in Germany). When people do they Autobahn training here they would be expected to do the speed that the rest of the traffic and 140kph isn't unusual. I suppose the instructor could have been scared if his bonnet was moving at that speed.
Depends when it was. If it was last year, it probably wasn't that impressive. If it was early 80's however..
Fair point

thebigmacmoomin

2,801 posts

170 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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I learnt in an MG ZR (only a 1.4 105+) but still, it was 2003 and miles better than any other learner car. After I passed & the MG had been replaced, my instructor bought a yellow Seat Leon Cupra diesel. Thought that was an odd choice. Think he had an Audi A1 now.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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I learned to drive in a 106 and then a 206 when my instructor changed cars, which seemed perfectly fine to me. I also learned in my mum's Renault 21 estate, that was fine.

I do sometimes worry though, that the instructors making these odd choices, are not doing their students so many favours when it comes to making the "right" decision once they get into their own car?

Electronic handbrakes and so forth, seemingly different on all cars, but no good when the new driver gets a 15 year old Fiesta to bumble around in with a conventional handbrake and then doesn't know how to properly use it when doing a hill start etc. I might be right off the mark of course, and am happy to be corrected.

vikingaero

10,459 posts

170 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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RedWhiteMonkey said:
Living here in Ludwigsburg, which is very close to Porsche and Mercedes, it is not unusual to see driving schools using Porsches or pretty high spec Mercedes as their cars. There is one school close to me that uses a C63. They must pay a fortune in insurance.
Insurance for learners is surprisingly cheap. That's because they are always accompanied whether in a driving school car or your own car. Add Little Johnny to your policy and it may well be a £100-200 additional premium but with a higher excess. Once they pass and are allowed to run solo that's when the thousands of pounds premium kicks in.

kowalski655

14,686 posts

144 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Had few lessons in an instructor's XR2(shows how long ago!) I reckon he thought if you could handle a fast(ish) car you should be OK in any other.
Also mum's Mk1 3.0 Granada

Then moved & passed using a Metro frown

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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vikingaero said:
Insurance for learners is surprisingly cheap. That's because they are always accompanied whether in a driving school car or your own car. Add Little Johnny to your policy and it may well be a £100-200 additional premium but with a higher excess. Once they pass and are allowed to run solo that's when the thousands of pounds premium kicks in.
Exactly.

I've had this debate with loads of people I've worked with whose son or daughter has just been added to their insurance as a 17 year old for a piffling £150 extra or something. You tell them it'll be thousands once they pass their test and they don't believe you, and state that it was only £150 and thats the son/daughter on the policy from this point forward.

And sure enough.... as soon as son or daughter passes the test the insurance company turn round and tell the parents it'll be £3500 for the rest of the year it whatever.

Issi

1,782 posts

151 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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No duff, but a chap around the corner from me uses a Toyota GT86, at least it's all liveried up with his driving school details on it, but it may just be a big movable advert.

RedWhiteMonkey

6,864 posts

183 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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vikingaero said:
RedWhiteMonkey said:
Living here in Ludwigsburg, which is very close to Porsche and Mercedes, it is not unusual to see driving schools using Porsches or pretty high spec Mercedes as their cars. There is one school close to me that uses a C63. They must pay a fortune in insurance.
Insurance for learners is surprisingly cheap. That's because they are always accompanied whether in a driving school car or your own car. Add Little Johnny to your policy and it may well be a £100-200 additional premium but with a higher excess. Once they pass and are allowed to run solo that's when the thousands of pounds premium kicks in.
In Germany?