Evo magazine - seems like everyone's leaving

[joshcowin]

Any subscribers been asked there opinion on the mag by evo themselves to see what features people liked and what format.

[PorkRind]

acme said:

Now that is interesting, didn't know that

He's upped the number of Harry's garage he's been doing of late, I do hope it doesn't impact that or the content etc.

Shame.

Yeah, I like the Harrys Garage content. Did like Chris Harris's stuff on #chrisharrisoncars and //drive till he went all TG... Im sure his TG stuff is good, but I don't really like the new TG as a show so haven't really looked out for CH content.

[acme]

PorkRind said:

acme said:

Now that is interesting, didn't know that

He's upped the number of Harry's garage he's been doing of late, I do hope it doesn't impact that or the content etc.

Shame.

Yeah, I like the Harrys Garage content. Did like Chris Harris's stuff on #chrisharrisoncars and //drive till he went all TG... Im sure his TG stuff is good, but I don't really like the new TG as a show so haven't really looked out for CH content.

I do like CH's videos, but as many have said here the driving on circuit is so unrealistic as to be largely irrelevant, even to those in a position to buy the cars featured. What I love about Harry's videos is the pure geek content, the look at a ferrari toolkit or loading an outboard in a Testarossa, superb!

Let's hope his move doesn't impact them to much.

Great to hear some positive reviews of the first post Trott edition, I've not opened mine yet, (sadly) saving for Christmas!

Cheers

[anniesdad]

Where's John Barker these days? I'll subscribe to whoever he's writing for.

Cancelled Evo sub a few months back.

edit: answered my own question - https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-barker-44861917 seems he's a consultant to JLR not writing for any publications at present.

Edited by anniesdad on Thursday 22 December 16:41

[RenesisEvo]

I have on occasion interacted with Mr Barker, a very nice chap indeed.

Anyone here slightly bemused/confused to find a review of a BMW 5 series diesel in the recent edition? Flicking through, it looks promising. Shame to see the back page feature reduced from an interesting tale to photo, I thought.

[Chilledbud]

I've been a long time sub of Evo and TG. About two years ago I twigged that I could take the current offer (it's been 5 issues for £5 with free gift for a while) and then when the first issue arrives, I cancel the DD. Rinse, repeat and so they cost £1 an issue.

Saw a couple people post about Readly and promptly signed up, and bought the parents a six month sub as the selections of mags are marvellous. I must admit I have a broad spectrum of interest, and so with Readly I can happily skim dozens of magazines and just pick out what interest me.

edit:

As sad as it sounds, I tend to find the pages I flick to first in both magazines are the fleet test.

Edited by Chilledbud on Thursday 22 December 17:08

[CS Garth]

I think Modern Classics has really shaken the tree, seeing it move to monthly is great. My analogy would be that Evo seems like the self indulgent prog rock bands and then punk comes along.

Being candid they should see the loss of staff as an opportunity to reinvigorate the publication, it's not about names it's about objective journalism. They went too gonzo.

The "thrill of driving" is both a curse and a blessing, they either need to determine that this is their core value and stick to it or otherwise be radical and drop it. Personally I'd drop it.

[V10Ace]

RWD cossie wil said:

darth_pies said:

I particularly like this bit of PH-baiting nonsense on their About page:

"GAMERS HAVE GOT TWITCH, TRAVELLERS HAVE GOT TRIP ADVISOR AND FASHION FANS HAVE GOT, OH, SOMETHING OR OTHER TOO. BUT PEOPLE WHO ARE INTO CARS HAVE GOT NOWHERE. THERE'S NO GRAND-SCALE ONLINE MOTORING COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE CAN MEET AND SHARE VIDEO, COMMENTS, INFORMATION AND OPINION. DRIVETRIBE WILL CHANGE THAT. AND THEN SOME."

- RICHARD HAMMOND


Only the TG boys could get away with such brazen BS!

To be fair, PH is more of a "mild passing interest in cars" than a serious petrolhead/ drivers forum. There are more threads moaning about people being knobs, registrations people don't like & the holier than thou brigade in SPL than there are genuinely into cars!

Glad you said it so i did'nt have to... what you say is 100% correct

[DuncanM]

ian_c_uk said:

twizellb said:

JFReturns said:

£20k heroes feature fantastic, reminds me of why I started buying EVO 220 issues ago.

Who remembers issue 31, the M3 vs. Tuscan, Skyline etc. Awesome issue which I still read:

Yes i have that issue too, used to flick through when i had my Tuscan.

Ha, that brings back memories - my mate bought the "25k Ferrari" in the article, a LHD 348 - lovely scary thing, but cost a fair bit in repai... maintenance!

We lived in Wellingborough at the time, so had a nice run down to Evo towers to pick up some copies of that issue, and a quick chat with Peter Tomalin.

I gave up on evo a long time ago, just about when they started having pages of ~£50k watches :-/

That issue 31 was one of the best! It reminds me of why I loved evo so much at that time

Things change I guess

[JFReturns]

Max_Torque said:

JFReturns said:

£20k heroes feature fantastic, reminds me of why I started buying EVO 220 issues ago.

Who remembers issue 31, the M3 vs. Tuscan, Skyline etc. Awesome issue which I still read:

Sorry, just remind me how much was an M3/Skyline/Tuscan back in the late 90's early 000's ? They were expensive cars back then, in fact, in real terms, i suspect more expensive than todays similar cars.......

Indeed, but look closer. EVO vs. WRX STi, 'bargain' supercars, MG 160 / Sport Ka / 325 compact driven. All comparatively attainable even back then.

[Leins]

CS Garth said:

I think Modern Classics has really shaken the tree, seeing it move to monthly is great. My analogy would be that Evo seems like the self indulgent prog rock bands and then punk comes along.

Being candid they should see the loss of staff as an opportunity to reinvigorate the publication, it's not about names it's about objective journalism. They went too gonzo.

The "thrill of driving" is both a curse and a blessing, they either need to determine that this is their core value and stick to it or otherwise be radical and drop it. Personally I'd drop it.

Unfortunately Modern Classics is just too "investment potential" for me. I find the articles themselves very poor in content

[s m]

Leins said:

CS Garth said:

I think Modern Classics has really shaken the tree, seeing it move to monthly is great. My analogy would be that Evo seems like the self indulgent prog rock bands and then punk comes along.

Being candid they should see the loss of staff as an opportunity to reinvigorate the publication, it's not about names it's about objective journalism. They went too gonzo.

The "thrill of driving" is both a curse and a blessing, they either need to determine that this is their core value and stick to it or otherwise be radical and drop it. Personally I'd drop it.

Unfortunately Modern Classics is just too "investment potential" for me. I find the articles themselves very poor in content

Be interesting to see where they "go" with the mag now it's taken off and gone monthly. Got a new editor too so maybe they'll expand more on driving/running the cars rather than the initial purchase of them. Always a bit more challenging with cars out of production though to do extended tests/performance testing etc

[Patrick Bateman]

Leins said:

Unfortunately Modern Classics is just too "investment potential" for me. I find the articles themselves very poor in content

That's disappointing. I bought the first two issues and while decent they were too focused on this.

[greenarrow]

Patrick Bateman said:

Leins said:

Unfortunately Modern Classics is just too "investment potential" for me. I find the articles themselves very poor in content

That's disappointing. I bought the first two issues and while decent they were too focused on this.

I disagree with that opinion. The writing is fine, its just written to highlight the good and poor aspects of the various cars featured, its not about driving cars on B Roads at the limit, which is the remit of mags like EVO. What I also like is that they aren't predictable. In this months issue for example, they preferred the MG Maestro Turbo to a Mk1 Escort RS Turbo. You would never get that in any other magazine.

This is why I don't think Modern Classics is really a rival to EVO, its more a "wake up call" to Classic Cars and Classic and Sports Car to move out of their 1960s/70s, early 80s time-warp and start featuring modern classics. Those two magazines still predominately cover cars that were only 10 years old or less in some cases (yes MGB, E Type Jag and Triumph TRs, I am talking about you!!) when they started back in the 70s.

[johnwilliams77]

Jan 2017 edition is pretty good

[Leins]

greenarrow said:

Patrick Bateman said:

Leins said:

Unfortunately Modern Classics is just too "investment potential" for me. I find the articles themselves very poor in content

That's disappointing. I bought the first two issues and while decent they were too focused on this.

I disagree with that opinion. The writing is fine, its just written to highlight the good and poor aspects of the various cars featured, its not about driving cars on B Roads at the limit, which is the remit of mags like EVO. What I also like is that they aren't predictable. In this months issue for example, they preferred the MG Maestro Turbo to a Mk1 Escort RS Turbo. You would never get that in any other magazine.

This is why I don't think Modern Classics is really a rival to EVO, its more a "wake up call" to Classic Cars and Classic and Sports Car to move out of their 1960s/70s, early 80s time-warp and start featuring modern classics. Those two magazines still predominately cover cars that were only 10 years old or less in some cases (yes MGB, E Type Jag and Triumph TRs, I am talking about you!!) when they started back in the 70s.

I like the cars they focus on, but the writing is just full of recycled hyperbole and cliches, and nearly every article seems to finish on the same "buy now while you still can" recommendation. Perhaps they just need some of the better motoring journalists involved, but alas DriveTribe seems to have tied them all up now

[adingley84]

PhilboSE said:

bks, and I've renewed just this week.

Oh well, I'll see what the next year brings and then make a decision.

Shane I've only just seen this, could have reminded you about the 14 day cooling off period that's compulsory on these things

[s m]

greenarrow said:

Patrick Bateman said:

Leins said:

Unfortunately Modern Classics is just too "investment potential" for me. I find the articles themselves very poor in content

That's disappointing. I bought the first two issues and while decent they were too focused on this.

I disagree with that opinion. The writing is fine, its just written to highlight the good and poor aspects of the various cars featured, its not about driving cars on B Roads at the limit, which is the remit of mags like EVO. What I also like is that they aren't predictable. In this months issue for example, they preferred the MG Maestro Turbo to a Mk1 Escort RS Turbo. You would never get that in any other magazine.

This is why I don't think Modern Classics is really a rival to EVO, its more a "wake up call" to Classic Cars and Classic and Sports Car to move out of their 1960s/70s, early 80s time-warp and start featuring modern classics. Those two magazines still predominately cover cars that were only 10 years old or less in some cases (yes MGB, E Type Jag and Triumph TRs, I am talking about you!!) when they started back in the 70s.

Except CAR magazine back in the 1980s perhaps, when they picked an MG Maestro Turbo over an RS Turbo ...

[greenarrow]

s m said:

greenarrow said:

Patrick Bateman said:

Leins said:

Unfortunately Modern Classics is just too "investment potential" for me. I find the articles themselves very poor in content

That's disappointing. I bought the first two issues and while decent they were too focused on this.

I disagree with that opinion. The writing is fine, its just written to highlight the good and poor aspects of the various cars featured, its not about driving cars on B Roads at the limit, which is the remit of mags like EVO. What I also like is that they aren't predictable. In this months issue for example, they preferred the MG Maestro Turbo to a Mk1 Escort RS Turbo. You would never get that in any other magazine.

This is why I don't think Modern Classics is really a rival to EVO, its more a "wake up call" to Classic Cars and Classic and Sports Car to move out of their 1960s/70s, early 80s time-warp and start featuring modern classics. Those two magazines still predominately cover cars that were only 10 years old or less in some cases (yes MGB, E Type Jag and Triumph TRs, I am talking about you!!) when they started back in the 70s.

Except CAR magazine back in the 1980s perhaps, when they picked an MG Maestro Turbo over an RS Turbo ...

Ha, Ha, yes you're right. Car back in those days were never afraid to take a different view to the herd. Very different now, where they've joined the "VW Golf is the answer to every motoring question" brigade!

Funny to see Classic Cars Jan 2017 edition rip off the December 2016 issue of Modern Classics with a similar hot hatch test featuring the Maestro....so perhaps the establishment is waking up at last to cars built after 1985!!

[johnwilliams77]

Anyone bought the feb edition? Looks to be OK - 20k cars.... they must read PH