Stolen Golf R & Touareg R

Stolen Golf R & Touareg R

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ayman82

1,465 posts

181 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Rick1.8t said:
Though I agree that many people breaking into a house for keys wont be 'ex siberian special forces' lets be realistic, as other people have done here.

Do you seriously keep a 'floor lifter' by your bed? - If you do then that is a terrible way to live, isnt it?
Same with letting the dog off the lead, your going to go downstairs (assuming thats where the dog is) and wonder past the person trying to nick your car to let the dog out at him?

These are all scenarios that happen in an ideal world, in the real world you best hope the person(s) that have broken in are not nuts / can handle themselves (they are criminals, its unlikely they are harmless) and dont turn your bar on you / stab you or similar.

OK, some thieves will just run away if confronted, but I wouldnt want to take that chance unless It was an unavoidable situation, e.g. the thief comes into my room / corners me or my family.

Leave the key in a suitable place (obviously not within reach of the door to allow 'pick-pocketing' them and only confront them if you need to - Absolutely no way would I want to set about somebody just to keep hold of a fully insured hunk of metal on the drive unless the situation forced me to.

This kind of thing would make me think twice about parking certain cars visibly on the drive or letting the OH drive regularly in them, and thats a really sad way to have to think.

In my old area a woman was stabbed in a car-park in broad daylight going to the hairdressers for her S3, apparently the idea is to stab first as that completely immobilises the owner of the car (unless you are a PH hero of course!) - No need to ask for keys or risk fighting back.

Fingerprint recoginition or a key pad to 'unlock' the car like a phone would go some way to prevent all of this, even if it would make starting the car / changing drives a little more inconvenient.
I've seen the term 'floor lifter' a couple of times in this thread, and nothing on Google helps me with what it could be. What is it exactly?

Rick1.8t

1,463 posts

179 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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ayman82 said:
I've seen the term 'floor lifter' a couple of times in this thread, and nothing on Google helps me with what it could be. What is it exactly?


If you feel the need to sleep with one of these under the bed, something is very wrong.

Chr1sch

2,585 posts

193 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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I'm frankly amazed at the comments on here...

With 2 young kids and a wife upstairs with me, screw the car, take what you want

Nothing is more important IMO

rallycross

12,793 posts

237 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Me too what's a floor lifter? Do you mean a tyre lever?

Leasing makes sense when you are faced with this sort of risk of theft from home no point fighting when it belongs to a finance co".

Hope you get it all sorted OP.

eybic

9,212 posts

174 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Rick1.8t said:
ayman82 said:
I've seen the term 'floor lifter' a couple of times in this thread, and nothing on Google helps me with what it could be. What is it exactly?


If you feel the need to sleep with one of these under the bed, something is very wrong.
Is that not a crowbar?

burty39

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354 posts

201 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Birdster said:
Sorry to hear about this OP. Sounds like it ended well from a financial point, but it's the emotional/personal side of it that matters most. I've heard of a few Golf R's going missing, shared via friends on Facebook.

Mine arrives next month and for the first time in years I'm thinking about not using my driveway and parking outside on the street a few doors down.
Hi thanks however this will not end well financially

To date excess on insurance x 2 = £1060
Locksmith and new door handles = £300
Replacement CCTV camera = £100
Lost deposit and admin fees on 4 month old Touareg ( didn't cover it in the Gap policy ) = £3000
New deposit on replacement vehicle = £1000 minimum
Up spec alarm system = £400

I could go on but you get the point. I am just thankful that the cars were leased as wouldn't want to be selling stolen / recovered / repaired cars in 2 years

Rick1.8t

1,463 posts

179 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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eybic said:
Is that not a crowbar?
It may be slightly different, but people are referring to some kind of pry bar or metal bar of some form.


Adz The Rat

14,086 posts

209 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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One of our customer had his new S3 stolen in Blackburn this week, probably same gang.

Birdster

2,529 posts

143 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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burty39 said:
Birdster said:
Sorry to hear about this OP. Sounds like it ended well from a financial point, but it's the emotional/personal side of it that matters most. I've heard of a few Golf R's going missing, shared via friends on Facebook.

Mine arrives next month and for the first time in years I'm thinking about not using my driveway and parking outside on the street a few doors down.
Hi thanks however this will not end well financially

To date excess on insurance x 2 = £1060
Locksmith and new door handles = £300
Replacement CCTV camera = £100
Lost deposit and admin fees on 4 month old Touareg ( didn't cover it in the Gap policy ) = £3000
New deposit on replacement vehicle = £1000 minimum
Up spec alarm system = £400

I could go on but you get the point. I am just thankful that the cars were leased as wouldn't want to be selling stolen / recovered / repaired cars in 2 years
Oh my. Sorry to hear that. I thought the locks etc would have been covered on the home policy and forgot about the deposits. Sorry. Just some people I know have waited forever for payouts after theft. A friend's 911 went under similar circumstances about four years ago and it was a nightmare with the payout.

My last lease car I didn't have deposit protection included, but I've done so for this one. Sad state of affairs really that they've started offering this. Shows how many are going missing.

Rick1.8t

1,463 posts

179 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Birdster said:
Oh my. Sorry to hear that. I thought the locks etc would have been covered on the home policy and forgot about the deposits. Sorry. Just some people I know have waited forever for payouts after theft. A friend's 911 went under similar circumstances about four years ago and it was a nightmare with the payout.

My last lease car I didn't have deposit protection included, but I've done so for this one. Sad state of affairs really that they've started offering this. Shows how many are going missing.
Agreed, what a sad state - People sleeping with bars under beds, parking cars on the road so theives dont know where you live, selling cars / not choosing the cars they want etc. Then there is the mental and monetary cost if a car is stolen.

Where the hell are these cars going? Surely this has gone past them being stolen to commit over crimes in / joyride now, they must be getting sold on somewhere as cars just dont break up for profit like the used to.

Uncle John

4,286 posts

191 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Had a Focus RS a few years ago and many were going missing and loads of people were using the good old fashioned Disklok on the steering wheel.

Just putting it out there as it adds another layer of hassle. May not stop the super determined though.....

Some people were even wiring in a hidden manual fuel pump cut off switch!

Dog Star

16,132 posts

168 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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BobSaunders said:
....insurance paid out in less than 7 days!!! (WTF?!)

....... disabled the street light!!
When my garage was burgled (it's a detached double, a fair way from the house, lots of hedges and trees) the streetlights had been disabled; they'd been like that for a week or so, so it does make me wonder.

This happened on a Tuesday/Wednesday night; the OHs KTM insurance paid out (this was after haggling!) the following Thursday and my R1 insurance a day later. No arsing around seeing if they'd be recovered, I suspect the inscos must be able to "profile" stuff and know when they've really really gone for good.

I live in a nice area and that's the first and only time I've been a victim of crime in my 48 years - but it's made me beyond paranoid. There's no way I'd ever consider something like an M5 for example, unless I really really lived out in the middle of the back of beyond. Doesn't matter where you live - scrotes from Salford or whatever have access to cars too, and can just follow you home no matter how far away you live. That's that.

rampageturke

2,622 posts

162 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Uncle John said:
Had a Focus RS a few years ago and many were going missing and loads of people were using the good old fashioned Disklok on the steering wheel.

Just putting it out there as it adds another layer of hassle. May not stop the super determined though.....

Some people were even wiring in a hidden manual fuel pump cut off switch!
Few reports recently of Fiesta STs and mk2 Focus RS's having their diskloks cut off with battery grinders. As you said, will obviously deter opportunist thieves, but the gangs don't care

ayman82

1,465 posts

181 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Rick1.8t said:


If you feel the need to sleep with one of these under the bed, something is very wrong.
Ah okay, All I was getting was this:

burty39

Original Poster:

354 posts

201 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Rick1.8t said:
Where the hell are these cars going? Surely this has gone past them being stolen to commit over crimes in / joyride now, they must be getting sold on somewhere as cars just dont break up for profit like the used to.
Police reckon they are all being stripped and sold for parts

Apparently £50k car = £8k in parts

Gary C

12,441 posts

179 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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burty39 said:
Rick1.8t said:
Where the hell are these cars going? Surely this has gone past them being stolen to commit over crimes in / joyride now, they must be getting sold on somewhere as cars just dont break up for profit like the used to.
Police reckon they are all being stripped and sold for parts

Apparently £50k car = £8k in parts
Our area had several focus st's, my STi etc stolen or attempted about 10 years ago. Gang targeting the area, from Sunderland area I believe. These were believed to have been shipped to the Middle East.

Before my car went, my neighbour disturbed an attempted theft of his st, they legged it as soon as disturbed. They know there are lots to choose so why risk a confrontation.

Gang was broken up eventually, but there are always new ones ready to take over.

rampageturke

2,622 posts

162 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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burty39 said:
Police reckon they are all being stripped and sold for parts

Apparently £50k car = £8k in parts
These gangs are really efficient at stripping vehicles. If it can come off, it will, and you're just left with half a naked shell dumped in a field with all identity stripped

BobSaunders

3,033 posts

155 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Dog Star said:
BobSaunders said:
....insurance paid out in less than 7 days!!! (WTF?!)

....... disabled the street light!!
When my garage was burgled (it's a detached double, a fair way from the house, lots of hedges and trees) the streetlights had been disabled; they'd been like that for a week or so, so it does make me wonder.

This happened on a Tuesday/Wednesday night; the OHs KTM insurance paid out (this was after haggling!) the following Thursday and my R1 insurance a day later. No arsing around seeing if they'd be recovered, I suspect the inscos must be able to "profile" stuff and know when they've really really gone for good.

I live in a nice area and that's the first and only time I've been a victim of crime in my 48 years - but it's made me beyond paranoid. There's no way I'd ever consider something like an M5 for example, unless I really really lived out in the middle of the back of beyond. Doesn't matter where you live - scrotes from Salford or whatever have access to cars too, and can just follow you home no matter how far away you live. That's that.
It's one of many reasons i sold my M5. I travel for work, only the missus is at home with car on drive way (Didsbury area). Was not worth it in end stress wise or worrying to think something might happen to her.

rallycross

12,793 posts

237 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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rampageturke said:
burty39 said:
Police reckon they are all being stripped and sold for parts

Apparently £50k car = £8k in parts
These gangs are really efficient at stripping vehicles. If it can come off, it will, and you're just left with half a naked shell dumped in a field with all identity stripped
Be interesting to know what a broken Golf R would make, someone has to sell the bits on ebay and is then traceable:
Engine
Seats
wheels
bodykit
drive train
ecu
what would that add up to?

Rick1.8t

1,463 posts

179 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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rallycross said:
Be interesting to know what a broken Golf R would make, someone has to sell the bits on ebay and is then traceable:
Engine
Seats
wheels
bodykit
drive train
ecu
what would that add up to?
I didnt think there would be a strong market for broken up modern cars like there was in the 90's era with the parts from cosworths / early subarus fetching good money with a good market for them, there isnt the same modifying culture today but I suppose if thats what police are saying then fair enough.

Must be a fairly decent operation though to be stripping enough cars to make good money - Would require premises and a way of shifting the parts and getting rid of the shells all without alerting attention. If they were doing more than a car a week (which they would need to if they are a gang and want to make enough money for it to be worthwhile) thats a lot of stuff to strip / sell / hide without being caught.

My money is on them being stuffed in a container and sent elsewhere.