Stolen Golf R & Touareg R

[burty39]

Rick1.8t said:

If they were doing more than a car a week (which they would need to if they are a gang and want to make enough money for it to be worthwhile) thats a lot of stuff to strip / sell / hide without being caught.

My money is on them being stuffed in a container and sent elsewhere.

Please said they been doing 30 cars a month for 9 months

[Rick1.8t]

burty39 said:

Please said they been doing 30 cars a month for 9 months

Thats a lot of cars, amazed they got away with it for 9 months! 270 car shells to be disposed off and god knows how many parts to be sold on, I can imagine that was a pretty big operation and extended well past the gang involved in stealing the cars - Complete sts.

[BigLion]

Two guys tried to break into our house to steal my porsche at the time, they made it as far as the garden before my german shepherd came charging out the utility and began biting one of them. His mate was long gone at this point!

As I came into the garden I pulled my dog off the burglar and opened the back gate and told the burglar to leave - he semi ran / limped out.

I didn't tell the police or try to stop the guy from leaving because I was worried about what would happen to my GSD as he had punctured the guys skin in a few places.

[Dave Hedgehog]

rallycross said:

rampageturke said:

burty39 said:

Police reckon they are all being stripped and sold for parts

Apparently £50k car = £8k in parts

These gangs are really efficient at stripping vehicles. If it can come off, it will, and you're just left with half a naked shell dumped in a field with all identity stripped

Be interesting to know what a broken Golf R would make, someone has to sell the bits on ebay and is then traceable:
Engine
Seats
wheels
bodykit
drive train
ecu
what would that add up to?

there are plenty of countries where the parts and the whole cars are worth a lot of money which ask very few questions about the legitimacy of imports

[Daveyc79]

Sold my mk2 focus rs a few months ago as despite disklock and obd port disabled I was sick of having to use other vehicles if I went anywhere as loads were being stolen and its flared up again. Replaced it with a mk7 gti and coudnt be happier as id have prefered an r but had to remember why I wanted rid of the rs. Sorry to hear of your situation. A unit in Birmingham has been raided and all sorts recovered.

[burnstar]

Let's just say you were a keen sportsman who often enjoyed clay pigeon shooting for example. You owned a shotgun license and your shotgun was housed within your gun cabinet secured to the wall in your bedroom. Then they come into your house looking for your car keys with your wife and kids alseep. Hmmn, now that is an awful situation to be in.

[NickCQ]

burnstar said:

Let's just say you were a keen sportsman who often enjoyed clay pigeon shooting for example. You owned a shotgun license and your shotgun was housed within your gun cabinet secured to the wall in your bedroom. Then they come into your house looking for your car keys with your wife and kids alseep. Hmmn, now that is an awful situation to be in.

I imagine Plod would point out that if you were following the proper procedures on storing gun cabinet keys and the cartridges, you wouldn't have been able to get all three things together in a short space of time.

[CS Garth]

burnstar said:

Let's just say you were a keen sportsman who often enjoyed clay pigeon shooting for example. You owned a shotgun license and your shotgun was housed within your gun cabinet secured to the wall in your bedroom. Then they come into your house looking for your car keys with your wife and kids alseep. Hmmn, now that is an awful situation to be in.

Waving a gun at someone - loaded or otherwise, is stupidity personified.

[MrBarry123]

BigLion said:

I didn't tell the police or try to stop the guy from leaving because I was worried about what would happen to my GSD as he had punctured the guys skin in a few places.

Hopefully the dog had a particularly nasty strain of bacteria in his mouth at the time.

It's nice to hear a story that ends well.

[Rick1.8t]

burnstar said:

Let's just say you were a keen sportsman who often enjoyed clay pigeon shooting for example. You owned a shotgun license and your shotgun was housed within your gun cabinet secured to the wall in your bedroom. Then they come into your house looking for your car keys with your wife and kids alseep. Hmmn, now that is an awful situation to be in.

This isnt America.

[burnstar]

I think that's sort of the point. Take away the logistics of unlocking / loading etc. Even with someone breaking in to your home, wanting to take whats yours and also putting your loved ones in danger you still cannot really take action even if you have the means to do so (i.e more than a plant pot albeit a heavy one). Hence, it's an awful situation.

Note: I do not own a shotgun

[Dave Hedgehog]

CS Garth said:

burnstar said:

Let's just say you were a keen sportsman who often enjoyed clay pigeon shooting for example. You owned a shotgun license and your shotgun was housed within your gun cabinet secured to the wall in your bedroom. Then they come into your house looking for your car keys with your wife and kids alseep. Hmmn, now that is an awful situation to be in.

Waving a gun at someone - loaded or otherwise, is stupidity personified.

The way this reads you would be well within your rights to shoot them to protect your kids etc, just dont walk over and finish them off

https://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/prosecution/ho...


just to be sure thou equip each of them with a random large knife you have purchased from boot fares that don't match your knife set.

[burnstar]

Dave Hedgehog said:

CS Garth said:

burnstar said:

Let's just say you were a keen sportsman who often enjoyed clay pigeon shooting for example. You owned a shotgun license and your shotgun was housed within your gun cabinet secured to the wall in your bedroom. Then they come into your house looking for your car keys with your wife and kids alseep. Hmmn, now that is an awful situation to be in.

Waving a gun at someone - loaded or otherwise, is stupidity personified.

The way this reads you would be well within your rights to shoot them to protect your kids etc, just dont walk over and finish them off

https://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/prosecution/ho...


just to be sure thou equip each of them with a random large knife you have purchased from boot fares that don't match your knife set.

Good find Dave. To be honest, it does look as though the law is on the home owners side. Bit of a faff though, renting those carpet cleaners cost an arm and a leg!

[AMGJocky]

burnstar said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

CS Garth said:

burnstar said:

Let's just say you were a keen sportsman who often enjoyed clay pigeon shooting for example. You owned a shotgun license and your shotgun was housed within your gun cabinet secured to the wall in your bedroom. Then they come into your house looking for your car keys with your wife and kids alseep. Hmmn, now that is an awful situation to be in.

Waving a gun at someone - loaded or otherwise, is stupidity personified.

The way this reads you would be well within your rights to shoot them to protect your kids etc, just dont walk over and finish them off

https://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/prosecution/ho...


just to be sure thou equip each of them with a random large knife you have purchased from boot fares that don't match your knife set.

Good find Dave. To be honest, it does look as though the law is on the home owners side. Bit of a faff though, renting those carpet cleaners cost an arm and a leg!

Seems pretty clear what you can and can't do. F knows what I would do in a situation like that if I gained the upper hand. Hopefully it never happens.

[BigLion]

MrBarry123 said:

BigLion said:

I didn't tell the police or try to stop the guy from leaving because I was worried about what would happen to my GSD as he had punctured the guys skin in a few places.

Hopefully the dog had a particularly nasty strain of bacteria in his mouth at the time.

It's nice to hear a story that ends well.

Out of interest, does anybody know the legal position here? No doubt the burglar would be protected by law

[anonymous-user]

if you want to stop people getting into your house, look at a armoured doors and security glass. Would allow the time for the cops to come, I think if I had nice motors would do that.

something like this

http://www.skydas.co.za/products-2/doors/skydas-pr...

Maybe cost a few thousand but would stop any intruders for a while at least.

[Wombat3]

The problem, as with all these things, is that the rewards outweigh the risk - by far too big a margin.

What we need is a car/bike thief lottery - 10 lucky thieves are going away for life this month (Minimum 30 years).......

[djc206]

BigLion said:

Out of interest, does anybody know the legal position here? No doubt the burglar would be protected by law

I'm not sure. My dad (a retired copper) attended a burglary once (decades ago he joined in 1978) where someone's dog had killed a burglar that it had cornered. I don't think there was any comeback on the owner, as to the fate of the dog I have no idea.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37692140

Link says no legal responsibility.

[TeaNoSugar]

Rick1.8t said:

burnstar said:

Let's just say you were a keen sportsman who often enjoyed clay pigeon shooting for example. You owned a shotgun license and your shotgun was housed within your gun cabinet secured to the wall in your bedroom. Then they come into your house looking for your car keys with your wife and kids alseep. Hmmn, now that is an awful situation to be in.

This isnt America.

These sorts of posts make me laugh. It just isn't going to happen. As the guy above said, this is England, it isn't some sthole suburb of Detroit or Baltimore!! What sort of person shoots a burglar at point-blank range with a shotgun? Why not just give someone the car keys?? It's just so much easier all round. I must be a real soft bd because I honestly couldn't see myself blowing someone's head off for the sake of a car theft. Even if I owned a gun. I must be too soft, or maybe I'd just rather face the consequences of losing my car and being quite scared for a few minutes, as opposed to the (probably very gory and horrifically shocking) consequences of having just shot someone in the face. If they want to steal your car, and they know what they're doing, I'd just give the keys over and deal with the ballache of the insurance company, and hope that sooner or later they try the same trick with a mega-hard bd like Mr Welshbeef, where it "won't end well for them", and he will provide them with their righteous retribution 😂

[TeaNoSugar]

I also found out that a friend recently had the headlights stolen from his Audi Q7 a couple of weeks ago. The chap across the road with an identical Q7 had his stolen at the same time. According to the police who responded to his report, Some of the new high-spec car headlights give out a large amount of light but generate very little heat, which makes them ideal for cultivation of cannabis without the telltale IR heat signature. I'd never have guessed but that's what he was told. Interesting (vaguely).