Stolen Golf R & Touareg R
Discussion
Cracking thread this. It seems there's 2 camps with no middle ground. It's either the gung ho sleep with one eye open and apprehend the ne'er do well masked Serbian with a crowbar (sorry, floor lifter)/shotgun or maybe a degree (with honours) just for good measure. On the other hand there are those resigned to their fate of owning an in-demand motor (probably leased and white), so much so that they proudly hang their keys in the hallway with a big sign saying "Keys here, help yourself, just don't come upstairs and kick my wife's newly fitted dental implants in. By the way, my wallets in the pocket of the coat to your left. Thanks."
TeaNoSugar said:
Rick1.8t said:
burnstar said:
Let's just say you were a keen sportsman who often enjoyed clay pigeon shooting for example. You owned a shotgun license and your shotgun was housed within your gun cabinet secured to the wall in your bedroom. Then they come into your house looking for your car keys with your wife and kids alseep. Hmmn, now that is an awful situation to be in.
This isnt America.
thole suburb of Detroit or Baltimore!! What sort of person shoots a burglar at point-blank range with a shotgun? Why not just give someone the car keys?? It's just so much easier all round. I must be a real soft bd because I honestly couldn't see myself blowing someone's head off for the sake of a car theft. Even if I owned a gun. I must be too soft, or maybe I'd just rather face the consequences of losing my car and being quite scared for a few minutes, as opposed to the (probably very gory and horrifically shocking) consequences of having just shot someone in the face. If they want to steal your car, and they know what they're doing, I'd just give the keys over and deal with the ballache of the insurance company, and hope that sooner or later they try the same trick with a mega-hard bd like Mr Welshbeef, where it "won't end well for them", and he will provide them with their righteous retribution ??Some of the people on this thread sound like a cross between Hulk Hogan and Mike Tyson.
Easy to be hard on the internet but I think the reality would be somewhat different.
Interestingly I've met a few PHers at various get togethers and I didn't exactly find them to be very intimidating.
Easy to be hard on the internet but I think the reality would be somewhat different.
Interestingly I've met a few PHers at various get togethers and I didn't exactly find them to be very intimidating.
Toyoda said:
Cracking thread this. It seems there's 2 camps with no middle ground. It's either the gung ho sleep with one eye open and apprehend the ne'er do well masked Serbian with a crowbar (sorry, floor lifter)/shotgun or maybe a degree (with honours) just for good measure. On the other hand there are those resigned to their fate of owning an in-demand motor (probably leased and white), so much so that they proudly hang their keys in the hallway with a big sign saying "Keys here, help yourself, just don't come upstairs and kick my wife's newly fitted dental implants in. By the way, my wallets in the pocket of the coat to your left. Thanks."
I would say I'm in the middle ground. I own a nice car, but it's just a thing, it has no sentimental value and as a bonus it's insured. I'm not going to kill or seriously injure someone to retain possession of an insured thing, I'm not going to put my life and my girlfriends life in jeopardy for that object. If someone is crafty enough to find a way past the security measures at my house which haven't included turning it into a prison in search of taking that object I'm not going to put anything at risk, they can have it and I'll suffer the inconvenience and claim on my insurance. I'd consider this the reasoned approach. I'm not hanging the keys outside the front door but I'm sure as s
t not going to hide them under my pillow and kid on that I'm going to enter into hand to hand combat to protect an object of no meaning to me. I've taken reasonable measures to prevent the taking of the car but I'm not going to spill a single drop of blood, mine or anyone else's over that car.Does anyone with a modern car install any preventative measures on the car itself, beyond a tracker? On all of my older cars i've had a battery kill mechanism, to stop it draining as quickly. A burglar could have the keys but wouldn't get anywhere. Would spend enough time faffing about for you to call the police perhaps? Of course this would only stop a thief up to a point, if someone knows your car, or is very well prepared they'll have it regardless.
I've been following this thread, it's always been a worry now I've got the kids and the wife drives the Cupra, I wanted an S3 but the theft rate put me off, I've a good alarm system at home and anti bump locks etc and would like to think I'd protect my family but last night the wind blew a metal empty plant pot over and I was too scared to open the back door to check it wasn't a burglar, I might just leave my keys in the car 
I'm also wondering who are buying all these golf R's or parts of, seems the amount of cars going missing is crazy
I'm also wondering who are buying all these golf R's or parts of, seems the amount of cars going missing is crazy
jonwm said:
I've been following this thread, it's always been a worry now I've got the kids and the wife drives the Cupra, I wanted an S3 but the theft rate put me off, I've a good alarm system at home and anti bump locks etc and would like to think I'd protect my family but last night the wind blew a metal empty plant pot over and I was too scared to open the back door to check it wasn't a burglar, I might just leave my keys in the car
I'm also wondering who are buying all these golf R's or parts of, seems the amount of cars going missing is crazy
The golfs and S3's tend to be used as getaway vehicles. They're anonymous and numerous enough to go unnoticed or blend in but obviously when the blue lights come on they're more than capable of outrunning plod in his diesel BMW/Audi.I'm also wondering who are buying all these golf R's or parts of, seems the amount of cars going missing is crazy
I never worried when I had my S3. The theft rate isn't that high is it?
Edit: turns out it is. 8.6/1000 for the S3, most stolen car in the UK. 2nd is the defender at 5.8/1000. I'd still those less than 1% odds!
Edited by djc206 on Friday 28th October 21:03
A few years ago there was a home invasion near Melton Mowbray. The intruders were shot, with a shotgun by the occupants.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/burglar-shot-...
At an appeal for a reduced sentence, the judge said: “I make it plain that, in my judgment, being shot is not mitigation. If you burgle a house in the country where the householder owns a legally held shotgun, that is the chance you take. You cannot come to court and ask for a lighter sentence because of it.”
The householders have emigrated to Australia.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/burglar-shot-...
At an appeal for a reduced sentence, the judge said: “I make it plain that, in my judgment, being shot is not mitigation. If you burgle a house in the country where the householder owns a legally held shotgun, that is the chance you take. You cannot come to court and ask for a lighter sentence because of it.”
The householders have emigrated to Australia.
CS Garth said:
burnstar said:
Let's just say you were a keen sportsman who often enjoyed clay pigeon shooting for example. You owned a shotgun license and your shotgun was housed within your gun cabinet secured to the wall in your bedroom. Then they come into your house looking for your car keys with your wife and kids alseep. Hmmn, now that is an awful situation to be in.
Waving a gun at someone - loaded or otherwise, is stupidity personified. When the FLO came around to advise me on my gun cabinet placement for my FAC1 I was told I couldn't have it near or in my bedroom as in the case of an intruder it would be all to easy for the situation to end with said intruder staring at the noisy end of a rifle.
Fair point and the last thing you'd want is to get into that situation. It would define the rest of your life.
Jasandjules said:
Sorry to hear this.
May I suggest you get a couple of big dogs.
You say this a lot, and every time I say to you - nobody cares how big the dog is. The reality is 99% of normal people and 100% of criminals won't find large dogs, in the UK, a threat.May I suggest you get a couple of big dogs.
The biggest deterrent is the bark, in which case a teacup chiwahaha will do the job just fine.
Our house was burgled last November.
I went downstairs and saw the burglar in the lounge.
I shouted out, "Jesus is watching you".
He just laughed to himself and continued filling his bag.
I shouted, "Jesus is not happy with what you are doing".
He laughed again, turned his back on me and carried on filling his bag.
It was then, that Jesus, our 12 stone Rottweiler had had enough...................
OK, the above is not strictly true, but it did make me laugh because many years ago my sister owned a rottweiler who chased a conman out of the house, and it was comical to watch because I was there on the day he let himself in through the front door announcing that he was a doctor, only to spotted by our pet pooch who chased him out, best bit was the dog wasn't interested in him, was more interested in all the juicy bones and meat in the local butcher's shop across the road.
Apparently her house was one of only a select few on the street that hadn't been burgled!
I went downstairs and saw the burglar in the lounge.
I shouted out, "Jesus is watching you".
He just laughed to himself and continued filling his bag.
I shouted, "Jesus is not happy with what you are doing".
He laughed again, turned his back on me and carried on filling his bag.
It was then, that Jesus, our 12 stone Rottweiler had had enough...................
OK, the above is not strictly true, but it did make me laugh because many years ago my sister owned a rottweiler who chased a conman out of the house, and it was comical to watch because I was there on the day he let himself in through the front door announcing that he was a doctor, only to spotted by our pet pooch who chased him out, best bit was the dog wasn't interested in him, was more interested in all the juicy bones and meat in the local butcher's shop across the road.
Apparently her house was one of only a select few on the street that hadn't been burgled!
Hainey said:
CS Garth said:
burnstar said:
Let's just say you were a keen sportsman who often enjoyed clay pigeon shooting for example. You owned a shotgun license and your shotgun was housed within your gun cabinet secured to the wall in your bedroom. Then they come into your house looking for your car keys with your wife and kids alseep. Hmmn, now that is an awful situation to be in.
Waving a gun at someone - loaded or otherwise, is stupidity personified. When the FLO came around to advise me on my gun cabinet placement for my FAC1 I was told I couldn't have it near or in my bedroom as in the case of an intruder it would be all to easy for the situation to end with said intruder staring at the noisy end of a rifle.
Fair point and the last thing you'd want is to get into that situation. It would define the rest of your life.
Hainey said:
CS Garth said:
burnstar said:
Let's just say you were a keen sportsman who often enjoyed clay pigeon shooting for example. You owned a shotgun license and your shotgun was housed within your gun cabinet secured to the wall in your bedroom. Then they come into your house looking for your car keys with your wife and kids alseep. Hmmn, now that is an awful situation to be in.
Waving a gun at someone - loaded or otherwise, is stupidity personified. When the FLO came around to advise me on my gun cabinet placement for my FAC1 I was told I couldn't have it near or in my bedroom as in the case of an intruder it would be all to easy for the situation to end with said intruder staring at the noisy end of a rifle.
Fair point and the last thing you'd want is to get into that situation. It would define the rest of your life.
burnstar said:
You are permitted to have your shotgun license in a bedroom if that is the most appropriate place for it.
I'm not convinced marauding thugs would be deterred by me waving my certificate at them, even with the added threat of a nasty paper cut from where I've folded it tightly to fit into it's faux leather holder.TeaNoSugar said:
I also found out that a friend recently had the headlights stolen from his Audi Q7 a couple of weeks ago. The chap across the road with an identical Q7 had his stolen at the same time. According to the police who responded to his report, Some of the new high-spec car headlights give out a large amount of light but generate very little heat, which makes them ideal for cultivation of cannabis without the telltale IR heat signature. I'd never have guessed but that's what he was told. Interesting (vaguely).
Hearing utter twaddle like that from the BIB makes me feel slightly uneasy, I'm not surprised that the criminals aren't getting caught.Why would you try and (extremely awkwardly, I'd imagine) rig a set of headlights to grow some cannabis, when there are hydroponics shops in every town selling specialist equipment designed specifically for that purpose?
More likely that the headlights are worth a grand+ and worth stealing. I remember looking into getting xenons retro-fitted onto my E87 a while ago and they were ~£600 for a used set, this is on a nearly 10 year old car.
iphonedyou said:
Jasandjules said:
Sorry to hear this.
May I suggest you get a couple of big dogs.
You say this a lot, and every time I say to you - nobody cares how big the dog is. The reality is 99% of normal people and 100% of criminals won't find large dogs, in the UK, a threat.May I suggest you get a couple of big dogs.
The biggest deterrent is the bark, in which case a teacup chiwahaha will do the job just fine.
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