The End of the 'Punishment Pass'?

The End of the 'Punishment Pass'?

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Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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BobSaunders said:
My question is - how much effort is it to take your foot off the accelerator for that split second to give a cyclist some more room? Zero.
I tend to use the steering rather than the throttle, I get your point. hehe

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Many cyclists ride like tw@ts yet expect motorists to drive like saints.

It's high time cyclists were required to pay for their use of the roads (after all, more and more of the carriageway is being taken over by cycle lanes) and to have clear registration numbers. Enforcement is completely one-sided at the moment.

S10GTA

12,677 posts

167 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Many cyclists ride like tw@ts yet expect motorists to drive like saints.

It's high time cyclists were required to pay for their use of the roads (after all, more and more of the carriageway is being taken over by cycle lanes) and to have clear registration numbers. Enforcement is completely one-sided at the moment.
Bingo


J4CKO

41,530 posts

200 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Mike335i said:
I don't mind cyclists, gives me a valid reason to drop to second and nail it! (leaving lots of space of course, can't risk them scratching my car haha)
Surely a 335i can easily beat a cyclist without all that, even ones in Lycra ? get it mapped or a 340i/M4 just to be on the safe side.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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S10GTA said:
Bingo

Oh if only I had the time and patience to make one up for cyclists. I'll start with a box saying "primary position".

IroningMan

Original Poster:

10,154 posts

246 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Many cyclists ride like tw@ts yet expect motorists to drive like saints.

It's high time cyclists were required to pay for their use of the roads (after all, more and more of the carriageway is being taken over by cycle lanes) and to have clear registration numbers. Enforcement is completely one-sided at the moment.
Have all the nasty cyclists come and upset things in the day room? You poor dear. Here, let nurse make you a nice cup of tea.

IroningMan

Original Poster:

10,154 posts

246 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Johnnytheboy said:
S10GTA said:
Bingo

Oh if only I had the time and patience to make one up for cyclists. I'll start with a box saying "primary position".
Don't forget the one which says 'oh, you appear to have killed me.'

NickCQ

5,392 posts

96 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Ozzie Osmond said:
It's high time cyclists were required to pay for their use of the roads.
Can't tell if trolling...

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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yetra said:
So if two militant lycra clad goons cycle abreast does that mean if I pass them as I would any car I will be done for not giving the offside goon 1.5 metre of space?

Imagine there was another cyclist in the middle in this picture, how is the car supposed to give both of them 1.5 metre safe space without mounting the kerb.

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Why do you think the pious s do it??

NickCQ

5,392 posts

96 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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dme123 said:
Why do you think the pious s do it??
The main reason is the following:
Two cyclists abreast is shorter on the road than two in single file. Therefore it makes it easier to overtake them on a two lane road (assuming that the overtaking vehicle moves over into the other lane rather than squeezing past in the same lane)

In urban situations there are certain circumstances when I will move into the centre of a lane to actively prevent overtaking. This is when I consider that any overtake might threaten my safety.

https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/knowledge/skills...

Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Car, motorbike, scooter, cyclist or horse. My overtaking path is identical for all of them. There's zero cost to it.

yetra

143 posts

91 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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NickCQ said:
dme123 said:
Why do you think the pious s do it??
The main reason is the following:
Two cyclists abreast is shorter on the road than two in single file.
Because two cyclists in single file take at least an hour to overtake.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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I do hope Lincolnshire police adopt this.

Witnessed a dumb bint in a Tiguan nearly wipe out a cyclist this morning. She approached said cyclist on a blind bend and proceeded to overtake without giving much room. As she was part way through the overtake, a vehicle came the other way. Cue the Tiguan driver swerving left and nearly wiping out the cyclist.

If she had waited literally five seconds, they would have been around the bend where this is a bit of straight road.

PHmember

2,487 posts

171 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Ozzie Osmond said:
It's high time cyclists were required to pay for their use of the roads.
Go on then. I'll bite. I cycle on the roads, I also drive a car. My car is taxed, fully comp insured & has a current MOT. I have insurance that covers 3rd party claims for cycling ( https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/thirdpartyliabil... ), I pay NI contributions & Council Tax every month. Please tell me what else I need to pay to cycle on your precious roads.

TSCfree

1,681 posts

231 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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funkyrobot said:
I do hope Lincolnshire police adopt this.

Witnessed a dumb bint in a Tiguan nearly wipe out a cyclist this morning. She approached said cyclist on a blind bend and proceeded to overtake without giving much room. As she was part way through the overtake, a vehicle came the other way. Cue the Tiguan driver swerving left and nearly wiping out the cyclist.

If she had waited literally five seconds, they would have been around the bend where this is a bit of straight road.
It's not as if Lincolnshire doesn't have miles and miles of pan flat straight roads either!

Very rarely see bib either which probably accounts for most of the terrible driving in the County.

battered

4,088 posts

147 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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IroningMan said:
Sump said:
The reality being that there will just be an influx of those crazy cyclists who go out of their way to cause a confrontation.
In the - perhaps unlikely - event that you encounter someone like that you are apparently entirely free to ignore them.
But cars are completely unable to travel faster than aggressive cyclists and leave them behind. You can see why the car drivers find it threatening. They're so vulnerable, after all.

Rovnumpty

128 posts

99 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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That didn't take long to turn into the usual PH st fest.

As a cyclist of the mountain variety, I've never had much problem with cars.

Tour buses though, oh yes.

I practice an avoidance policy when it comes to busy roads. Don't quite understand the 'I've a right to be here, so I'm going to do it' mentality.

Under scottish law, I'm free to walk through a field with a mad bull in it. I don't though, as I know who's going to win in a collision.

J4CKO

41,530 posts

200 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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funkyrobot said:
I do hope Lincolnshire police adopt this.

Witnessed a dumb bint in a Tiguan nearly wipe out a cyclist this morning. She approached said cyclist on a blind bend and proceeded to overtake without giving much room. As she was part way through the overtake, a vehicle came the other way. Cue the Tiguan driver swerving left and nearly wiping out the cyclist.

If she had waited literally five seconds, they would have been around the bend where this is a bit of straight road.
I have had that on a specific bend on my cycle commute, three times it has happened, I am sure using the bloody Force to get round and are breathing in as they scoot round completely unaware of whatever is coming, had a 106 with a stripe over the roof do it and very nearly meet a tractor coming the other way, lots of horns blaring and near death, so I pull out a bit further to avoid this, not good enough for an X5 driver, completely on the wrong side, at speed top get round, nothing coming that time but if there had been it would have been a hell of a crash, I would love to do the Harry Enfield "Now I do not believe you wanted to do that" to the driver.

heebeegeetee

28,723 posts

248 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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thecremeegg said:
1. Motor vehicles make up 99% of all traffic on the roads - if you don't like that stat, don't cycle on them.

2. I'm sorry but if I can pass a cyclist with a bit of gap and not knock them off then it's a safe pass in my books.

3. Why must the majority pander to the needs of the few all the time?
1. likewise, if you can't cope with cyclists, don't drive.

2. I take the same attitude to speed, and drive at the speed that I deem safe in my books. However when a nip comes through the post, as it did the other day, I don't complain, it was my choice.

3. How on earth does being asked to drive safely get construed as 'pandering'?

NickCQ said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
It's high time cyclists were required to pay for their use of the roads.
Can't tell if trolling...
You can't, can you? The comments are that bad that you literally can't tell if they're serious or not. laugh

Again, these multiple cyclist hating threads just confirm to me that there is no way, absolutely no way at all, that car enthusiasts can be considered to be better drivers than the average. You can tell just by the amount of whinging over fk all they do. laugh

Mr Snrub

24,974 posts

227 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Johnnytheboy said:
S10GTA said:
Bingo

Oh if only I had the time and patience to make one up for cyclists. I'll start with a box saying "primary position".
"There is no legal requirement for me to use that cycle lane"