RE: New Mercedes-AMG E63 announced

RE: New Mercedes-AMG E63 announced

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TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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Beefmeister said:
Pedant mode....

It has got 612hp (metric horsepower)

This equates to 603bhp (brake horsepower)
What's "metric horsepower"? Do you mean 612ps (Pferdestärke)?

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
Beefmeister said:
Pedant mode....

It has got 612hp (metric horsepower)

This equates to 603bhp (brake horsepower)
What's "metric horsepower"? Do you mean 612ps (Pferdestärke)?
by any measure it has a 'st load' of power

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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Burwood said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Beefmeister said:
Pedant mode....

It has got 612hp (metric horsepower)

This equates to 603bhp (brake horsepower)
What's "metric horsepower"? Do you mean 612ps (Pferdestärke)?
by any measure it has a 'st load' of power
But is that a metric stload?

freshkid

199 posts

192 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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This promises to be everything AMG mercs should be and has enough wild power and crazy features to make the diesel and lesser petrol versions look functionally redundant in comparison. I am still waiting to see the Panamera shooting brake...but the e63 estate is currently top of my cars I want that almost actually exist list.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
Burwood said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Beefmeister said:
Pedant mode....

It has got 612hp (metric horsepower)

This equates to 603bhp (brake horsepower)
What's "metric horsepower"? Do you mean 612ps (Pferdestärke)?
by any measure it has a 'st load' of power
But is that a metric stload?
This may help

The "west coast stload standard" however, was sometimes held as low as a ton and a half. While in the mid-west, the standard stload could be as little as five hundred pounds. Really the only industry to keep a straight stload was the drug running trade. Those guys never deviated from the 2.7 ton benchmark, God bless 'em!

and not to be confused with assload which is a much smaller quantity

I would have badged this new model E63 S and SL

aspirated

2,539 posts

146 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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RS6 and M5 won't be able to hold a candle to this, all the dynamic benefits of RWD combined with the sure-footedness of 4WD when you want? That sound helps too..as does the fact that it looks bloody amazing

HighwayStar

4,257 posts

144 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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aspirated said:
RS6 and M5 won't be able to hold a candle to this, all the dynamic benefits of RWD combined with the sure-footedness of 4WD when you want? That sound helps too..as does the fact that it looks bloody amazing
Next M5 is going to be 4WD 20/80 RWD biased, 600hp+ and looking lighter! The M5 will be more than fine wink

leglessAlex

5,441 posts

141 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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HighwayStar said:
aspirated said:
RS6 and M5 won't be able to hold a candle to this, all the dynamic benefits of RWD combined with the sure-footedness of 4WD when you want? That sound helps too..as does the fact that it looks bloody amazing
Next M5 is going to be 4WD 20/80 RWD biased, 600hp+ and looking lighter! The M5 will be more than fine wink
I think the Audi will be fine too.

In this market segment it seems everyone is converging on 4WD, 600bhp+ and very expensive (obviously) so I imagine which you go for will be mostly down to which one you subjectively prefer rather than which is objectively the 'better' car.

Sump

5,484 posts

167 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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SturdyHSV said:
popeyewhite said:
Wills2 said:
SturdyHSV said:
See this is why I like AMG over the M / RS options.

With the M cars, there's this incredibly dull pretense that it's a finely honed driving machine for the incredibly discerning driver that every golfer is where track times are so important and it's all about finesse and poise.
All born out of your extensive experience with them no doubt, what a load of rubbish....
We don't need to guess what you drive do we? biggrin
Your rentals are lovely.



antspants

2,402 posts

175 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Whilst I appreciate the tech, I wonder how many owners have enough brave pills to disable esp and deploy over 600hp on the road.

It's great marketing to have the best of both worlds, but apart from motoring journalists showing us how well it drifts on track I can imagine most owners never using it.

It also looks like it's on stilts in the first photo, the headlights don't look like they're fitted correctly (but perhaps that's just my eyesight or the quality of the photo), and that mahoosive screen on the dash whilst better than the stick on tablet doesn't look great imo .

Personally I like the sound of the M5 4wd 20/80 split better.

freshkid

199 posts

192 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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antspants said:
Whilst I appreciate the tech, I wonder how many owners have enough brave pills to disable esp and deploy over 600hp on the road.

It's great marketing to have the best of both worlds, but apart from motoring journalists showing us how well it drifts on track I can imagine most owners never using it.

It also looks like it's on stilts in the first photo, the headlights don't look like they're fitted correctly (but perhaps that's just my eyesight or the quality of the photo), and that mahoosive screen on the dash whilst better than the stick on tablet doesn't look great imo .

Personally I like the sound of the M5 4wd 20/80 split better.
Being able to switch off the AWD is more mentaller than a 20/80 split therefore the AMG wins.

developer

265 posts

157 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Oh well, it looks like it's gonna be three E63's in a row - how will I manage? cool

Walter Sobchak

5,723 posts

224 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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Has the 5.5 TT engine gone completely now then?.
This looks like an amazing car.

nickwilcock

1,522 posts

247 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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'Drift mode'? How totally and utterly puerile.

numtumfutunch

4,723 posts

138 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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nickwilcock said:
'Drift mode'? How totally and utterly puerile.
I know - brilliant!

fatboy b

9,493 posts

216 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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dme123 said:
0-62 in 3.4 seconds eek
Oh please stop spouting irrelevant 0-60 times. Mine is meant to do it in 4.4. Have I tried it yet? No. however, overtaking ability is epic.

TimBean

3 posts

161 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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Why no coupe?

fatboy b

9,493 posts

216 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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TimBean said:
Why no coupe?
Probably thought this one was ugly enough without having a 2-door version hehe

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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fatboy b said:
TimBean said:
Why no coupe?
Probably thought this one was ugly enough without having a 2-door version hehe
There is an E-Class Coupe coming, there have been spy shots and it looks just las you'd imagine slap Bang between the C ads S Coupes.

And Merc has confirmed there'll be a '43 and '63 AMG version.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-detr...

Edited by Beefmeister on Saturday 29th October 20:29

popeyewhite

19,842 posts

120 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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fatboy b said:
dme123 said:
0-62 in 3.4 seconds eek
Oh please stop spouting irrelevant 0-60 times. Mine is meant to do it in 4.4. Have I tried it yet? No. however, overtaking ability is epic.
It'll be more epic in the E63. I mean it's an entire second faster to 60 than your barge biggrin


Edited by popeyewhite on Saturday 29th October 20:46