RE: Ferrari 488 Spider: UK Review

[E65Ross]

GranCab said:

RamboLambo said:

Like I say Ferrari press cars are lowered and not the same as customer production cars.

Can you prove that ? I'm surprised you haven't mention how many extra BHP the press Ferraris have too ...

p.s. the plural of Ferrari is Ferraris.

The apostrophe would be used if you were talking about an aspect or component of said car making the word Ferrari into a possessive noun e.g. the Ferrari's ride height.

lol, turning to grammar to help your argument? You don't like admitting it but RamboLambo is right on this one. Everyone who's driven one has said the scuttle shake of the spider is noticeable, especially compared to the McLaren, and you're arguing it isn't, yet you haven't driven one. You also argue most Ferrari owners don't push them hard enough to notice....several owners or those who have driven them on here have said it's noticeable. I'm not sure I follow your argument, to be honest.

[Lagerlout]

Pretty surprised to read this, my old 430 Spider only had the tiniest amount of scuttle shake. I've owned a lot of cars that have though, worst was an 2011 E class cab, felt worse than some 50's convertibles I've owned. Had to sell it in the end it was so bad.

[Lagerlout]

PS you don't have to push a car hard to notice scuttle shake, it's most noticeable simply dropping a wheel into a pot hole on one side.

[Carl_Manchester]

GranCab said:

RamboLambo said:

Like I say Ferrari press cars are lowered and not the same as customer production cars.

Can you prove that ? I'm surprised you haven't mention how many extra BHP the press Ferraris have too ...

Although Rambo can be overly gushing in his passionate enthusiasm for cars, I can't really mark him down for it.

For those wondering if Rambo landed from another planet. Make a cuppa and read the obligatory repost of this little gem of journalistic outpouring : http://jalopnik.com/5760248/how-ferrari-spins

My view on whether the suspension is too high is that I would personally have it ride higher so it is more comfortable. I think from memory all spyders rider higher than the coupe as your average spyder buyer prefers a softer ride.

[RamboLambo]

488 v 650s comparison review. Shock horror, older generation car beats the new kid on the block

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8ym6kSewAQ

Your money, your choice but for me the smart money says beat the 2 year waiting list and save yourself £100k by buying the superior McLaren 650S Spider. Don't be a sheep

Edited by RamboLambo on Sunday 30th October 11:47

[kambites]

The "smart" money doesn't involve buying a supercar at all. It's not someone one does with one's head.

[RamboLambo]

Lagerlout said:

Pretty surprised to read this, my old 430 Spider only had the tiniest amount of scuttle shake. I've owned a lot of cars that have though, worst was an 2011 E class cab, felt worse than some 50's convertibles I've owned. Had to sell it in the end it was so bad.

My F430 spider also had scuttle shake but you have to remember its 200 bhp less than the 488 so not under the same stress. They have also stiffened the suspension significantly so again more stress on the open top.

CARBON TUB is the only answer for open top motoring with this amount of power.

Apparently McLarens have carbon tubs

[mpdugas]

Is there a test, by PH, of the 488 Coupe under similar circumstances?

Testing on British B-roads is a cliché thing; try a Michigan dirt road instead.

[2 GKC]

Probably just me, but I rather dislike the look of all the ludicrously overpriced carbon bits on these motors.

[jayemm89]

This car looks very, very fussy. None of the pictures do it any favours. Also a real shame they seem unable to fix the scuttle shake issue.
I still find the options list difficult to swallow, I don't see how you can send a car out priced at £280K and act like it's a £200k car...

[F355spider]

Picked mine up a few days ago, really impressed with it. engine note lovely, sounds almost like a turbo charged V10. Power delivery is fierce, ride and build quality superb with zero scuttle shake. Best Ferrari i have owned by a long shot including Speciale.

[BelfastBoy]

E65Ross said:

I'd probably take the McLaren given the choice. Can't believe that had £80k of options on....mind you, most of that is carbon fibre tat you don't really need.

Exactly. If the carbon fibre stuff was truly essential, it would be fitted as standard rather than available as options that are presumably aesthetic rather than functional?

[wezo]

Nice one 355, lovely car, is that flat or metallic Rosso Corsa?

[PHMatt]

I think Ferrari need a new entry level vehicle in their arsenal.

Even at £182k it's about £60k over and above what a decent 911 would cost.

And at £282k you're into insane money usually reserved for the rarest of hypercars. Wasn't the SLR and Carerra GT "only" £300k-ish on release? Far rarer, one of which I believe is appreciating, the other I believe should.

[Guvernator]

Agree £200k sounds like a lot for the "baby" Ferrari, until you realise there is a waiting list and they sell way more than they can make.

[F355spider]

wezo said:

Nice one 355, lovely car, is that flat or metallic Rosso Corsa?

Cheers, std Rosso Corsa. Mine specced to £240, god knows what did they did with that one!!

[E65Ross]

PHMatt said:

I think Ferrari need a new entry level vehicle in their arsenal.

Even at £182k it's about £60k over and above what a decent 911 would cost.

And at £282k you're into insane money usually reserved for the rarest of hypercars. Wasn't the SLR and Carerra GT "only" £300k-ish on release? Far rarer, one of which I believe is appreciating, the other I believe should.

Yes, but £300k 13 years ago is a lot more now!! Amazing though, that this "baby" Ferrari today will absolutely knock the socks off of those cars.

[DonkeyApple]

Now they're a listed company they may be obliged by shareholders to do something like a cheaper car or a sub brand if the economics change in the future.

[GranCab]

F355spider said:

Picked mine up a few days ago, really impressed with it. engine note lovely, sounds almost like a turbo charged V10. Power delivery is fierce, ride and build quality superb with zero scuttle shake. Best Ferrari i have owned by a long shot including Speciale.

Don't let RamboLambo read your post ... he'll insist you need a carbon tub otherwise life ain't worth living

[GranCab]

E65Ross said:

GranCab said:

RamboLambo said:

Like I say Ferrari press cars are lowered and not the same as customer production cars.

Can you prove that ? I'm surprised you haven't mention how many extra BHP the press Ferraris have too ...

p.s. the plural of Ferrari is Ferraris.

The apostrophe would be used if you were talking about an aspect or component of said car making the word Ferrari into a possessive noun e.g. the Ferrari's ride height.

lol, turning to grammar to help your argument? You don't like admitting it but RamboLambo is right on this one. Everyone who's driven one has said the scuttle shake of the spider is noticeable, especially compared to the McLaren, and you're arguing it isn't, yet you haven't driven one. You also argue most Ferrari owners don't push them hard enough to notice....several owners or those who have driven them on here have said it's noticeable. I'm not sure I follow your argument, to be honest.

Show me where have I argued about scuttle shake or lack of ?

How do you know I haven't driven one ? Have you driven one or are you basing your argument on your experience of driving a 7 series BMW ?

P.S. It wasn't poor grammar - just incorrect punctuation.