MX5/MR2

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ARHarh

3,755 posts

107 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Owned a mk1 mx5. superb little car. owned 2006 mk3 mr2 good but not as easy to live with as the mk1 mx5. The luggage sapce can be an issue but a boot rack will solve it. now own mk3 mx5 great fun on my commute to work. given the choice for an everyday car it would be mk3 mx5. for summer only fun mk1 mx5 or mk3 mr2 if i couldn't find a rust free mx5.

CABC

5,576 posts

101 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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kambites said:
As the posts above point out, I think the MR2's problem is that over the generations it hasn't quite been able to decide what it wants to be whereas the MX5 has been very consistent in its ethos over the generations. Personally I prefer the mk3 MR2 to any iteration of the MX5 but I didn't get on with the MK2 at all; someone looking for a GT rather than a sports car would probably rate the mk2 MR2 over the others though.
Yes, Mazda has been consistent and the general marketplace has easily understood the proposition
Toyota have a great history but have dabbled in sports cars, MR2 and Supra being good examples.
Honda show off their engineering prowess with 2 world class cars, the NSX and S2000. What do they do? demonstrate greatness, start to develop the market and then fail to follow up. Criminal! Early stage market development that had mainstream acceptance and great profitability beckoning.

kambites

67,561 posts

221 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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RobM77 said:
NDNDNDND said:
kambites said:
Hmm, I disagree. The TF's chassis is, IMO, perhaps slightly behind the mk3 MR2 but significantly ahead of any iteration of the MX5 and is leagues ahead of the mk2 MR2. The driving position is woeful, the ride is overly firm, and the build quality is dire but I found the handling to be very capable.
Well that's nonsense for a start. The Mk1 and 2 MX-5 have a bespoke backbone chassis, with fully-adjustable double wishbones at all corners.

The MGF is a metro going backwards...
Kambites was commenting on the driving experience, not the engineering. On the subject of engineering though, what you say is true for the MGF, but not the TF. As you rightly say, the MGF re-used Metro suspension and uprights (you can still see the unused driveshaft joints at the front!), but the MG TF, IIRC, was a re-design using conventional suspension components.
Indeed. I couldn't care less about what it shares components with. I care about how it drives. Besides I suspect my Elise shares as much with a Metro as the MGTF does.

acme

2,971 posts

198 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Had a MK3 MR2 as a daily for almost 6 years & 50k miles, epic car. Boot space wasn't an issue, then again I rode
bikes too so it seemed superb!

Jasandjules

69,889 posts

229 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Had several MR2 T-Bars in my time, great cars to drive.

200Plus Club

10,752 posts

278 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Had both. 1.6 mx5 and 2003 mk3 mr2
The MR2 is the better driving car after a few tweaks IMHO. Speed wise not much to choose. Brakes on mr2 are fabulous balance and power for stock if working well and rears not binding.

I might be biased because I don't need storage space and I have a hardtop but the lack of serious corrosion on the mr2 compared to our mx5 is a bonus.
More engines go pop on the mr2 to be fair but later cars better.
I can't see me getting rid of it tbh. I bent it on track and it was 2 hrs work to remove the rear quarter panel and bumper and cost me 140 quid or so for 2nd hand panels. Meccano cars!

RobM77

35,349 posts

234 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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200Plus Club said:
Had both. 1.6 mx5 and 2003 mk3 mr2
The MR2 is the better driving car after a few tweaks IMHO. Speed wise not much to choose. Brakes on mr2 are fabulous balance and power for stock if working well and rears not binding.

I might be biased because I don't need storage space and I have a hardtop but the lack of serious corrosion on the mr2 compared to our mx5 is a bonus.
More engines go pop on the mr2 to be fair but later cars better.
I can't see me getting rid of it tbh. I bent it on track and it was 2 hrs work to remove the rear quarter panel and bumper and cost me 140 quid or so for 2nd hand panels. Meccano cars!
What tweaks have you made out of interest? I've i
only driven the standard car.

200Plus Club

10,752 posts

278 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Mine is a face-lift so has a couple of extra braces but I got the Matt underbody brace for 110 quid which is fabulous and picked up a set of 2nd hand tein shocks with springs for 200 quid. A good wheel alignment on a Hunter rig made it fabulous fun to drive.
Its ok in std form but tends to wander a bit pressing on and the above sorts it all.
30mm drop is all it needed with slightly better shocks but bear in mind also mine had 103k on clock on oe shocks.
I just love driving it now and you can throw it at bends as long as you remember it's mid engined :-)

TNTom

230 posts

177 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Swapped my 1992 MX5 for a 1991 MR2 turbo T-bar 5 years ago, and still have the MR2 today, the MX5 is a great little car to learn how to properly feel the road and too gain confidence with pushing on without worrying about hitting silly speeds too fast, the MR2 in my opinion has one of the best driving positions I've experienced, has enough storage space, but being a turbo it's a lot quicker than my old MX5, need to be REALLY fast in correcting the rear end when it pops out on the MR2, the MX5 on the other hand was quite easy too control.

danllama

5,728 posts

142 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Got to be a MK2. Not sure why all the negativity in this thread, they are very well sorted suspension wise and great drivers cars, nicely adjustable when pushing the limits. Maybe not as nimble as a MK3 or MK1, but they feel special every drive. They also have loads of luggage room (much bigger boot than you'd imagine).

I've had four. Feel free to PM me if you fancy one. Here's my '95 turbo.

SilPHSSstatic-13 by Dan J, on Flickr

And because i'm feeling nostalgic, my first one, a '95 UK NA.

IMG_2993 by Dan J, on Flickr

Benbay001

5,795 posts

157 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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I absolutely love my MR2 and cant think of anything id rather replace it with for less than £10k.

It is slow for a sports car though.

finishing touch

809 posts

167 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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Last weekend I had a passenger ride in the Salon Motorsport mk1 MX5 fitted with their supercharger.
The 182 bhp transforms an otherwise bog standard engine. I was seriously impressed.

Apparently the car went in for it's MOT two weeks ago at a local garage and the mechanic drove it into
the workshop and pulled the bonnet. Lifted the bonnet and stood for a moment, then dashed into the
office and came out with his camera.

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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loggo said:
Can the team help please ? I am looking for a Summer car (for next year) that must be little more than shed money. My choice has settled down to an MX5 or a Toyota MR2( mk3) but I am puzzled. Whilst the MX5, despite rust issues seem loved wherever it goes the MR2,which seems to be tops in everything apart from storage, has little following. Before I spend my cash can someone tell me what I've missed ??

CABC

5,576 posts

101 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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s m said:
in the context of the other Evo threads on ph, i found the writing above easy to read and informative. less of the flowery waffle.

Xcore

1,345 posts

90 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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Iv had both, mx5 is far more forgiving. The mr2 is quicker and is a different driving experience/feel to most cars in its price point, but will try to kill you on wet roundabouts!

danllama

5,728 posts

142 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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Xcore said:
Iv had both, mx5 is far more forgiving. The mr2 is quicker and is a different driving experience/feel to most cars in its price point, but will try to kill you on wet roundabouts!
Only if you barrel in and lift off like a tt!

nikaiyo2

4,729 posts

195 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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danllama said:
Got to be a MK2. Not sure why all the negativity in this thread, they are very well sorted suspension wise and great drivers cars, nicely adjustable when pushing the limits. Maybe not as nimble as a MK3 or MK1, but they feel special every drive. They also have loads of luggage room (much bigger boot than you'd imagine).

I've had four. Feel free to PM me if you fancy one. Here's my '95 turbo.

SilPHSSstatic-13 by Dan J, on Flickr

And because i'm feeling nostalgic, my first one, a '95 UK NA.

IMG_2993 by Dan J, on Flickr
Not really the same beast tho comparing an MX5 with an MR2 Turbo. Nice car BTW

MR2 0-60. 6 seconds. 1/4 mile 14.5 seconds

MX5 0-60. 9 seconds. 1/4 mile 16 seconds

The MR2 Turbo was a brilliant car, such a shame they were never imported officially and never got the press they deserved, baring in mind the Ferrari 348 launched the same year was only 0.1 faster 0-60...

I think the MK3 MR2 kind of misses out, the people into MR2s tend to either be MK1 people who wanted the original purity or MK2 Turbo owners who wanted more and more and more power (and stickers from Japan)

200Plus Club

10,752 posts

278 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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If you drive it properly and it's set up well as mk3 mr2 will not try to kill you anywhere wet or dry! It desperately needs 200bhp to be anywhere near scary

loggo

Original Poster:

410 posts

112 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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Thanks for all the response guys. It was the mk3 MR2 I was interested in by the way - the 2 never seemed a real sports car somehow.

Edited by loggo on Saturday 29th October 17:57

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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loggo said:
Thanks for all the response guys. It was the mk3 MR2 I was interested in by the way - the 2 never seemed a real sports car somehow.

Edited by loggo on Saturday 29th October 17:57