RE: RM Auctions 'Duemila Ruote' auction preview

RE: RM Auctions 'Duemila Ruote' auction preview

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British Beef

2,228 posts

166 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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Crazy low estimates, there will be a lot of disappointed bidders when the selling prices go the usual way.....

15-20 k for a Detomaso Pantera, ok looks a little rough, but tidy ones are selling well into 6 figures.



david hockney

1,204 posts

154 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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With the weak pound I assume you'll get clobbered anyway unless you are buying in euro from the start...

V8 FOU

2,978 posts

148 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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One thing is for sure about this auction, it will skew the market with such a flood of cars. I expect they will all find buyers at very variable prices.
But can the market cope with such a large number? Especially as the maket looks a little wobbly at the mo'?

Historicly high prices are usually for pristine cars or the dreaded barn find. These fall somewhere in between....

Wizardskills

243 posts

168 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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Looks like a very intresting collection of cars. Most will have been sitting around for the best part of 3/4 years I would have thought.

Is this a real AMG Hammer? I thought they only came in a 2 door? http://www.rmsothebys.com/tv16/duemila-ruote/lots/...


Mince

82 posts

122 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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Anyone else calling bullst on these estimates? Pair of £5+k Cannondale bicycles and then I've stumbled across this!?!?!

http://www.rmsothebys.com/tv16/duemila-ruote/lots/...

HardtopManual

2,445 posts

167 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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AnimalMother said:
http://www.rmsothebys.com/tv16/duemila-ruote/lots/...

200 to 400 EURO's????

Pretty much free to anyone who'll take it away.
The seats are worth more than that if they're the ones also fitted to the Ferrari Challenge cars of the era.

WTFWT

842 posts

224 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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I want one of those 3 point hydroplanes! They're just glorious looking things...

DJFish

5,930 posts

264 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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The owner certainly had a good eye for toys, however according to another report I read a previous auction contained certain other erm 'toys' that really justify being described as "pre-loved", seems the Italian government has decided to sell this blokes extensive collection of 'Frankie Vaughn' and vibrating back massagers, quite why anyone would buy them is beyond me.

Edited by DJFish on Monday 7th November 20:10

DegsyE39

577 posts

128 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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British Beef said:
Crazy low estimates, there will be a lot of disappointed bidders when the selling prices go the usual way.....

15-20 k for a Detomaso Pantera, ok looks a little rough, but tidy ones are selling well into 6 figures.
OT But i havent really looked at pantera prices for a while you could get them for that a few years back!!

Nice ones were 15 grand! eekeek

Bubble bobble..Interesting to see what this flood of cars will do to the market.

Regards D.

Scrimper

154 posts

166 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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I believe everything in this auction is subject to both buyers premium (at around 12%) plus VAT (22%) on premium plus hammer. So add on roughly a third to hammer price. Guides are cheap but some are still worth a cheeky bid though!

Mogul

2,936 posts

224 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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VAT will generally only be payable on the buyer's commission.

e.g. 22% VAT on the 12% Buyer's Commission. Therefore, the hammer price plus 14.64% is as much as anyone should be paying for most lots.

However A number of lots will be subject to VAT on everything but those are highlighted in the catalogue with a ▼ (an upside down black triangle).

WCZ

10,548 posts

195 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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lol @ those estimates, stop the auction! i'll take everything at the upper estimated price!

Fetchez la vache

5,577 posts

215 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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WCZ said:
lol @ those estimates, stop the auction! i'll take everything at the upper estimated price!
They're taking the piss, really aren't they...

Dave Hedgehog

14,587 posts

205 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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Fetchez la vache said:
WCZ said:
lol @ those estimates, stop the auction! i'll take everything at the upper estimated price!
They're taking the piss, really aren't they...
They are saying its getting sold regardless of what happens

Fast Bug

11,743 posts

162 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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A guy on another forum I'm on is going out there to bid on a few cars. It'll be interesting to see what the hammer price is for some of the cars

rastapasta

1,872 posts

139 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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theres a lot of shi1te at this tbh

fatboy18

18,957 posts

212 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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Im going with a mate and the wives in tow, we have got the Expo hotel booked and flights, Idea is to send the girls shopping in Milan while we watch the Auction.....Might have to restrict the OH credit card if she's shopping in Milan biggrin

CampDavid

9,145 posts

199 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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fatboy18 said:
Im going with a mate and the wives in tow, we have got the Expo hotel booked and flights, Idea is to send the girls shopping in Milan while we watch the Auction.....Might have to restrict the OH credit card if she's shopping in Milan biggrin
Try and delay them getting out, the joint account will be maxed early doors if those estimates ring true.

twoblacklines

1,575 posts

162 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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I like this
http://www.rmsothebys.com/tv16/duemila-ruote/lots/...

But these were worth £100k not long ago...£650k?????

100 IAN

1,091 posts

163 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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Spoke to someone yesterday who's at the auction, he said RM Sothebys website crashed earlier in the week as it couldn't handle the amount of traffic.

He also said the queue to register was miles long and the hall packed.

Low guide prices have worked well in garnering interest but the majority of Lots have laid unused for some years so will require recommissioning.

Few cars have any history/paperwork (except registration docs) so in part the guide prices reflect this and the recommissioning work that'll be required.

It'll be interesting to see how things unfold later...