RE: TT RS vs 718 Cayman S vs F-Type S: POTW

[anonymous-user]

smilo996 said:

I predict a huge upset. Dan will choose the Jag.

Not every pole is wrong, he will choose the Porschar.

"They come over here stealing our builders jobs etc etc"............

Or maybe you meant telegraph, totem or similar ?

[blade7]

HighwayStar said:

kambites said:

It'll be an interesting comparison on the provision that no attempt is made to pick a "winner". The three cars are so different that trying to decide which one is "best" would be ludicrous, IMO.

Nice picture, either way.

That won't matter... Plenty of PHers will declare, because Quattro, the numbers and can be chipped to silly hp, the RS the winner

There choice and which ever floats your boat, that's the winner.

All on the same tyres I'd be impressed if the RWD cars got near the TT-RS in winter conditions.

[kambites]

blade7 said:

All on the same tyres I'd be impressed if the RWD cars got near the TT-RS in winter conditions.

I don't think anyone is claiming they will; the question is weather that matters in the slightest and obviously the answer to the question is personal preference.

[dvs_dave]

Can't wait for the entirely predictable result.

1. Porsche - because Porschar
2. Jag - handling too lairy despite much better looks, sound, and it being the next class up.
3. Audi - fast and capable with a great power train, but boring to drive and not at all special compared to the others.

[blade7]

kambites said:

blade7 said:

All on the same tyres I'd be impressed if the RWD cars got near the TT-RS in winter conditions.

I don't think anyone is claiming they will; the question is weather that matters in the slightest and obviously the answer to the question is personal preference.

If I was running one car all year round being able to put the power down in all weather conditions would matter to me, so I'd have the TT-RS. If it was a fair weather 2nd car I'd have the Cayman S.

[nickfrog]

blade7 said:

If I was running one car all year round being able to put the power down in all weather conditions would matter to me

Do you reckon it has good traction on summers in the snow ?

[kambites]

blade7 said:

If I was running one car all year round being able to put the power down in all weather conditions would matter to me, so I'd have the TT-RS. If it was a fair weather 2nd car I'd have the Cayman S.

Fair enough, obviously everyone is entitled to their own preferences and requirements.

[nickfrog]

kambites said:

Most of what determines the best "driver's car" is down to how one defines it - none of them are what I'd really consider a "driver's car"

I couldn't agree with you more, it's subjective - for me and my use of road cars, amongst other things, a driver's car has to be able to take a few hot laps without melting its tyres and/or cook its brakes. Only one of the three will do that I reckon, hence my personal view that the Porsche is the best driver's car out of the three.

[blade7]

nickfrog said:

blade7 said:

If I was running one car all year round being able to put the power down in all weather conditions would matter to me

Do you reckon it has good traction on summers in the snow ?

My BMW 328 couldn't get up my drive on packed snow. My A4 quattro did easily...

[s m]

kambites said:

blade7 said:

All on the same tyres I'd be impressed if the RWD cars got near the TT-RS in winter conditions.

I don't think anyone is claiming they will; the question is weather that matters in the slightest and obviously the answer to the question is personal preference.

Like what you did there

[blade7]

s m said:

kambites said:

blade7 said:

All on the same tyres I'd be impressed if the RWD cars got near the TT-RS in winter conditions.

I don't think anyone is claiming they will; the question is weather that matters in the slightest and obviously the answer to the question is personal preference.

Like what you did there

I ignored it.

[nickfrog]

blade7 said:

nickfrog said:

blade7 said:

If I was running one car all year round being able to put the power down in all weather conditions would matter to me

Do you reckon it has good traction on summers in the snow ?

My BMW 328 couldn't get up my drive on packed snow. My A4 quattro did easily...

I reckon they would both have made it on winters, and you wouldn't have to carry the Quattro extra weight all year ;-)

[blade7]

nickfrog said:

blade7 said:

nickfrog said:

blade7 said:

If I was running one car all year round being able to put the power down in all weather conditions would matter to me

Do you reckon it has good traction on summers in the snow ?

My BMW 328 couldn't get up my drive on packed snow. My A4 quattro did easily...

I reckon they would both have made it on winters, and you wouldn't have to carry the Quattro extra weight all year ;-)

Probably, the Beemer was much nicer to drive in the dry, and is one of my favourite old cars.

[Roger Irrelevant]

I'm glad I was sitting down when I read this else I might have fallen down - I'm genuinely amazed to learn that an Audi TT RS is £60k. I'll admit it's a car I know very little about and I'm sure it's brilliant, but Jesus Christ that seems expensive - I would have guessed £40k.

[ReaperCushions]

Roger Irrelevant said:

I'm glad I was sitting down when I read this else I might have fallen down - I'm genuinely amazed to learn that an Audi TT RS is £60k. I'll admit it's a car I know very little about and I'm sure it's brilliant, but Jesus Christ that seems expensive - I would have guessed £40k.

Agree, but I'm shocked any of them are over 40k.

If I had 60k to spend it wouldn't be anywhere near this lot.

[Wayne58]

ReaperCushions said:

Agree, but I'm shocked any of them are over 40k.

If I had 60k to spend it wouldn't be anywhere near this lot.

I agree, 60k buys one hell of a 911/Audi R8/M4 etc etc. Lot of choice at that kind of money, and I'd want more than a TT or 4 pot Cayman for 60k.

[jayemm89]

Porsche probably drives the best
Jag probably sounds the best
Audi probably goes fastest "in the real world", and on paper

Jag and Porsche would both appeal to me for different reasons. Were it a choice I was forced to make I'd probably go Jag, as I miss the old Porsche flat six too much. I'm not that fond of the F-Type though, if I'm honest. Preferred the shape of the XKR.

[Ho Lee Kau]

anonymous said:

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Makes no sense.

You have two cars each with it's own purpose.
Here in the article we select one car for all purposes.
If you cross C63AMG with Elise S you get a flawed product as well.
Besides, your C63AMG is flawed as well, it does not have AWD and with the power it sends to back wheels it is not all-weather-all-season vehicle.

P.S. I do agree there are negatives to the above cars, TT has no feel (but fast and sounds nice, and all-weather pony), Boxster has turbo-4-pot (but steers beautifully, I have 3.4L BoxsterS with ceramics and sport suspension myself), Jaguar is just shaguar.

Edited by Ho Lee Kau on Thursday 17th November 20:48

[nickfrog]

Ho Lee Kau said:

Besides, your C63AMG is flawed as well, it does not have AWD and with the power it sends to back wheels it is not all-weather-all-season vehicle.

Makes no sense - 4wd on summers certainly is NOT all-weather. C63 on winters is a great winter car.

[Ho Lee Kau]

Steve H said:

ash73 said:

I'd have the Audi out of these three, no question. You can have fun in any of them, so the choice comes down to image and what they are like to live with. The Audi screams quality

Really? To me Audi screams blandness and keeping up with the neighbours; the ultra-performance version any mainstream model of car will always feel like a boggo box with bits bolted on.

It would be the Porsche for me but I'd have to be sold on the new engine or I'd be buying one of the last six-pots and enjoy the inevitable glacial level of depreciation.

Audi is jack of all trades for all weathers (with a bit lacking steering feel and probably still understeer under gas in slow corners).
I used to have TTRS coupe (manual) with 420hp/600nm, modified suspension and more camber angle. It understeered accelerating out of slow corners but did nice 4-wheel slides on wet surfaces. Was great car, but I was blown away by steering of 997 Turbo which I drove back to back (not even the best steering 911!).

I test drove new Boxster with the 2L turbo and basic suspension. Engine pulls but sounds...let's say not as good as before. But it steers very nice even on stock suspension (I took it into twisties). I have 3.4L Boxster S with ceramics and low+hard sport suspension, now that car steers and sounds magnificent.