Audi S3 Snapped Cam Belt advice?

Audi S3 Snapped Cam Belt advice?

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MOTK

308 posts

134 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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I guess that's the pragmatic approach, assuming they are paying for it!
ETA: well either way I guess

Best of luck with it.

Floptimus Prime

8,852 posts

187 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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So on the new engine will you be fitting a new oil pump etc or just having it fitted as is?

Adamb19

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24 posts

89 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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So we have finally had some movement. The garage I purchased the vehicle off has offered me a refund (HOORAAAY) however there is a rather large but coming...

They have deducted £4000 from the refund. £2200 for the cost of a replacement engine and £1800 for mileage depreciation. They have justifies this by claiming they will be trading the car and not selling it and therefore they will only collect £2000 less than the current value of the vehicle if compared like for like.

I have gone back with a counter offer, offering for myself to cover the cost of an engine £1500 and them to cover labour costs. I have an also accepted a depreciation of £500 for the mileage based off of the cost of exact same models, year, mileage cars.

It's not ideal but given the circumstances it's better than nothing. Fingers crossed they reply and agree to my offer or at least meet me most the way. I won't move far from the offer I'm have made as it would cost me £2000 to replace the engine myself, therefore it makeseems no sense for me to accept less than a loss of £2000 :/

Hope this gets sorted, 3 weeks of driving a Toyota Avensis and immediately ready to top myself 😂

Also thanks all you guys for your input, it's really appreciated!

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Well done for sourcing the engine.

Just to be sure are you sure the replacement engine is a CDL code?

£2200 for a bare block and head is ridiculous.

Adamb19

Original Poster:

24 posts

89 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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What's a CDL code? My garage to told me they could get a reconditioned engine for 1500 and it would cost approx 500 to fit.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Apologies I mis read, I thought it said you had agreed to cover the cost of an engine that you sourced.

CDL is your engine code mate from an S3.. or BHZ... while any will fit there are tons of cars that use that engine but some other codes have some small variances.

I would not have full trust in the garage at the moment if I were you considering how long it's taken them to diagnose an obvious problem.

DuraAce

4,240 posts

160 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Adamb19 said:
What's a CDL code? My garage to told me they could get a reconditioned engine for 1500 and it would cost approx 500 to fit.
I'll bet it hasn't been reconditioned.

I'll bet its out of a used/scrapped/crashed car, has covered 200k+ miles and is more worn inside than your original motor.

I'd be getting the head off the original motor to investigate what's happened. You could fix your original engine much cheaper with a bit of effort.

red_slr

17,227 posts

189 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Defo need to get the correct engine. There are many variations over VAG of the same engine.


ralphrj

3,523 posts

191 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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DuraAce said:
I'll bet it hasn't been reconditioned.

I'll bet its out of a used/scrapped/crashed car, has covered 200k+ miles and is more worn inside than your original motor.
It is perfectly legal to describe an engine from a used/scrapped/crashed car with 200k+ miles as reconditioned as there is no acceptable definition of 'reconditioned'. In truth, 'reconditioned' means nothing more than 'not new'.

To have any confidence in a replacement engine it needs to be shown that it is either a brand new engine from the manufacturer or that it has been re-manufactured (i.e. rebuilt to the manufacturers specification with parts inspected, tested and replaced where necessary).


gp3000000

103 posts

134 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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So they've offered you a deal that's worse than the situation you're already in? Doesn't sound like much of a deal to me...

Adamb19

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24 posts

89 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Yes exactly and they are actually legally obliged to cover the costs of repairs. Citizens advice have encouraged me to take my claim to court if they do not amaccept the counter offer I have made.

gp3000000

103 posts

134 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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SuperchargedVR6 said:
If it's the EA888 engine, which it should be in an 11 plate, it doesn't have a belt. It's chain only.
Don't know where you got this from - all the S3 06-14 engines have a belt and chain. Also a balancer chain in the sump.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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All A3 8p S3 are TFSI not TSI.

lord trumpton

7,389 posts

126 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Adamb19 said:
Yes exactly and they are actually legally obliged to cover the costs of repairs. Citizens advice have encouraged me to take my claim to court if they do not amaccept the counter offer I have made.
Are they legally obliged? I thought you said in the first post that it was just over six months ago?

I thought it was more of a goodwill thing?

lee_erm

1,091 posts

193 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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I never hear good things about TFSI engines. They're notorious for high oil consumption too.

Adamb19

Original Poster:

24 posts

89 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Citizens advice have confirmed they are due to the range of faults extending throughout the entire first 6 months. It would have to go to court but the judge would undoubtedly rule in my favour.

Ean218

1,965 posts

250 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Adamb19 said:
Citizens advice have confirmed they are due to the range of faults extending throughout the entire first 6 months. It would have to go to court but the judge would undoubtedly rule in my favour.
Mmmm. Citizen's Advice have only heard your side of the story, they are not legally qualified and they have no role in passing judgement on a case. I would be wary of that advice.

Tankrizzo

7,265 posts

193 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Adamb19 said:
So we have finally had some movement. The garage I purchased the vehicle off has offered me a refund (HOORAAAY) however there is a rather large but coming...

They have deducted £4000 from the refund. £2200 for the cost of a replacement engine and £1800 for mileage depreciation. They have justifies this by claiming they will be trading the car and not selling it and therefore they will only collect £2000 less than the current value of the vehicle if compared like for like.

I have gone back with a counter offer, offering for myself to cover the cost of an engine £1500 and them to cover labour costs. I have an also accepted a depreciation of £500 for the mileage based off of the cost of exact same models, year, mileage cars.

It's not ideal but given the circumstances it's better than nothing. Fingers crossed they reply and agree to my offer or at least meet me most the way. I won't move far from the offer I'm have made as it would cost me £2000 to replace the engine myself, therefore it makeseems no sense for me to accept less than a loss of £2000 :/

Hope this gets sorted, 3 weeks of driving a Toyota Avensis and immediately ready to top myself ??

Also thanks all you guys for your input, it's really appreciated!
A refund is just that. What they have offered you however is not a refund, it's current sale value with the cost of repairs subtracted, both of which are horrendously cheeky.

Time to step it up a bit.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Adamb19 said:
Citizens advice have confirmed they are due to the range of faults extending throughout the entire first 6 months. It would have to go to court but the judge would undoubtedly rule in my favour.
I wouldn't be using CA for legal advice, as in fairness they are not really properly trained. A consultation with a solicitor would be more prudent.

Ean218

1,965 posts

250 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Adamb19 said:
So we have finally had some movement. The garage I purchased the vehicle off has offered me a refund (HOORAAAY) however there is a rather large but coming...
Just re-read the above post. They haven't offered a refund, they have offered to buy your car back at it's current value, there is no admission of any kind of liability there at all. It would appear that they think they have a solid case.

I'm struggling to see how a chain snapping over 6 months after you bought the car has anything to do with the supplying car trader. Good luck with the small claims court....