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Motorrad

6,811 posts

187 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Lovely. It looks great in the pictures. I have not seen a Z4 hardtop before!

These will surely go a bit crazy like the Z3M prices have done?
I'm thinking the boat is on it's way down the slipway. I remember looking at a ready supply of Z4Ms around the 12-14K mark over a year ago. Now there's one straggler and a bunch of likely rubbish from the *august gentlemen* at Target BV cars in Rotterdam in the PH classifieds. I was hoping for a drop to 10K and I'd be in there for an honest example.

Edited by Motorrad on Tuesday 21st February 19:59

derin100

5,214 posts

243 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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derin100 said:
Yep, for sure, the 944S2 boat really has sailed far now...that was a car that would have most definitely been on my short-list a year or two ago as I've always like the look of them. Now even mega-mileage ones are seeing high asking prices.

However, in "Off Topic" news...as it's not a Barge...I think the obvious investment car that was actually staring me in the face is the Z4M. I missed one for sale privately at the weekend literally across the road from one of the hospitals that I work at on Saturday. So, today from a Dealer and for more money, I've bought this!






The fact that I already have a virtually identical 3.0Si and nowhere to keep this one are secondary considerations which I'll have to deal with when it arrives! laugh

Haven't even seen it in the flesh! laugh
Lovely. It looks great in the pictures. I have not seen a Z4 hardtop before!

These will surely go a bit crazy like the Z3M prices have done?
They look a bit ungainly with the hardtop on but the one I've does come with one so it's a thing worth having:







W00DY

15,492 posts

226 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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derin100

5,214 posts

243 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Motorrad said:
0a said:
Lovely. It looks great in the pictures. I have not seen a Z4 hardtop before!

These will surely go a bit crazy like the Z3M prices have done?
I'm thinking the boat is on it's way down the slipway. I remember looking at a ready supply of Z4Ms around the 12-14K mark over a year ago. Now there's one straggler and a bunch of likely rubbish from the *august gentlemen* at Target BV cars in Rotterdam in the PH classifieds. I was hoping for a drop to 10K and I'd be in there for an honest example.

Edited by Motorrad on Tuesday 21st February 19:59
Yes, I think you're right. They are definitely on the rise rapidly. Two years ago I missed a really very low mileage one for £15K...that's history now. Anything low mileage now seems to get snapped up very quickly. I missed the private one on Saturday by a whisker and basically have had to pay the full dealer price on this one. When I didn't hear a response to my email of last night to the dealer first thing this morning I was having visions of this one being snatched from under me too.

BigBen

11,641 posts

230 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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My colleague has an Alpina Z4 roadster which he is thinking of moving on, we share a lift to work so I have been in it a lot. Don't really see the appeal apart from it makes an excellent noise.

derin100

5,214 posts

243 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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ian316 said:
derin100 said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
tombar said:
Ok, it's a deal. Perhaps I'll start with how I explain why I've just bought a car without an MOT 60 miles away to a very confused other half.....
You can skip that bit, we've all been there!
True! A year ago, I had to explain to my wife how I had bought a car, not only without an MOT but as a car that hadn't even turned a wheel for 4 years and that I'd had to have transported that morning 70 miles from North Wales had suddenly appeared by lunchtime when there was no suggestion of it first thing that morning!
classic smile
As you can imagine, Ian...given today's events, as described above, the atmosphere chez nous this evening is somewhat....Frosty!



0a

23,901 posts

194 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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BigBen said:
My colleague has an Alpina Z4 roadster which he is thinking of moving on, we share a lift to work so I have been in it a lot. Don't really see the appeal apart from it makes an excellent noise.
What engine does the Alpina version use?

r129sl

9,518 posts

203 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Looks like a very good buy the Z4M. Well done. If your house is much like mine, you'll be used to the cold by now.

derin100

5,214 posts

243 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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BigBen said:
My colleague has an Alpina Z4 roadster which he is thinking of moving on, we share a lift to work so I have been in it a lot. Don't really see the appeal apart from it makes an excellent noise.
What engine does the Alpina version use?
3.4L 'bored out' N52 i.e to the max of it's capabilities

The Alpina has it's advantages and disadvantages. I looked into this quite closely before I bought my 3.0Si a couple of years ago.

The Alpina is definitely cheaper to own than a Z4M...lower tax, cheaper servicing etc. But more fragile. 19" wheels don't really do it any favours on our roads but the springs are standard "Si" springs.


Edited by derin100 on Tuesday 21st February 20:44

derin100

5,214 posts

243 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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r129sl said:
Looks like a very good buy the Z4M. Well done. If your house is much like mine, you'll be used to the cold by now.
laugh

The fact that after some years of losses (or at least flat-lining) that I did actually make a significant profit for my efforts by selling the E34 540i back to the chap I bought it from last week seems (strangely) to have become either very quickly forgotten or indeed completely inadmissible evidence in my defence.



Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Nice purchase Derin, why not the Z4MC if you don't mind me asking? Would make an interesting counterpoint to a 3.0Si. smile

0a

23,901 posts

194 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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derin100 said:
r129sl said:
Looks like a very good buy the Z4M. Well done. If your house is much like mine, you'll be used to the cold by now.
laugh

The fact that after some years of losses (or at least flat-lining) that I did actually make a significant profit for my efforts by selling the E34 540i back to the chap I bought it from last week seems (strangely) to have become either very quickly forgotten or indeed completely inadmissible evidence in my defence.
Not to take the 'other side'... but you did go out and buy another BMW the following week Derin!

CharlesdeGaulle

26,266 posts

180 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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0a said:
derin100 said:
r129sl said:
Looks like a very good buy the Z4M. Well done. If your house is much like mine, you'll be used to the cold by now.
laugh

The fact that after some years of losses (or at least flat-lining) that I did actually make a significant profit for my efforts by selling the E34 540i back to the chap I bought it from last week seems (strangely) to have become either very quickly forgotten or indeed completely inadmissible evidence in my defence.
Not to take the 'other side'... but you did go out and buy another BMW the following week Derin!
I was thinking exactly the same thing. Atmosphere chez deG is positively arctic each time I buy a car!

derin100

5,214 posts

243 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
0a said:
derin100 said:
r129sl said:
Looks like a very good buy the Z4M. Well done. If your house is much like mine, you'll be used to the cold by now.
laugh

The fact that after some years of losses (or at least flat-lining) that I did actually make a significant profit for my efforts by selling the E34 540i back to the chap I bought it from last week seems (strangely) to have become either very quickly forgotten or indeed completely inadmissible evidence in my defence.
Not to take the 'other side'... but you did go out and buy another BMW the following week Derin!
I was thinking exactly the same thing. Atmosphere chez deG is positively arctic each time I buy a car!
Alec! When we called you as a "witness for the defence" we weren't expecting this...and for you to crumble in the dock in this manner! When they said: "Do you swear to.....and nothing but the truth blah blah blah..." we were expecting you to have your fingers crossed behind your back and not add your own embellishments!

Who's side are you on here? mad



Croutons

9,876 posts

166 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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derin100

5,214 posts

243 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Krikkit said:
Nice purchase Derin, why not the Z4MC if you don't mind me asking? Would make an interesting counterpoint to a 3.0Si. smile
True. And I see your point. But that boat has really slip down the slipway. About 2 years ago a similar mileage Coupe would have been about what I've paid for this Roadster. And, I nearly did buy such a vehicle at that time. I offered £16K for that car at the time but it went for £18K. frown Now, two years on, I would definitely have made a bit on that car but I just couldn't do it at the time.

The Z4 Coupe is definitely a hot cookie at the moment such that 3.0Si Coupes are also being snapped up and going up in value. So, one of those was a consideration.

However,I just felt that a 3.0Si in Coupe form would have been even more difficult to get through Immigration Control (aka SWMBO) than this M Roadster.

Can you imagine all of the forms that I'd be filling in now? Like:

"So, what's the difference between this one with a roof and this one without a roof?"

"We already have cars with roofs, don't we?"



etc etc....

W00DY

15,492 posts

226 months

Minemapper

933 posts

156 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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derin, your first mistake was admitting guilt. Surely a fellow of your experience knows to park such things 'off-site' until such time as their appearance is deemed acceptable?

I know a chap who had 5 or 6 Aston's that his other half never knew about. Everyone was much happier that way.

Fun Bus

17,911 posts

218 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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W00DY said:
Nice but I couldn't get on with the non-OEM unit being fitted in it.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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derin100 said:
Krikkit said:
Nice purchase Derin, why not the Z4MC if you don't mind me asking? Would make an interesting counterpoint to a 3.0Si. smile
True. And I see your point. But that boat has really slip down the slipway. About 2 years ago a similar mileage Coupe would have been about what I've paid for this Roadster. And, I nearly did buy such a vehicle at that time. I offered £16K for that car at the time but it went for £18K. frown Now, two years on, I would definitely have made a bit on that car but I just couldn't do it at the time.

The Z4 Coupe is definitely a hot cookie at the moment such that 3.0Si Coupes are also being snapped up and going up in value. So, one of those was a consideration.

However,I just felt that a 3.0Si in Coupe form would have been even more difficult to get through Immigration Control (aka SWMBO) than this M Roadster.

Can you imagine all of the forms that I'd be filling in now? Like:

"So, what's the difference between this one with a roof and this one without a roof?"

"We already have cars with roofs, don't we?"



etc etc....
Haven't looked at prices of them in a few years, they've really not budged much, shame, I'll never own one!

I can imagine just how frosty the reception would be when you arrive to complete a collection of two cars, one with a tin roof the other with cloth. hehe
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