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phil_cardiff said:
Indeed. Very reliable engine too, as well as being sprightly and smooth. Is there any evidence of a water pump change in the history? If not you might want to think about doing it as a precaution. I managed to get mine changed for £350 all in, would have been north of £900 at the BMW dealer!
Hi there. Yes I have read about the cooling system issues. The car has been for a vehicle check at an independent bmw specialist today and no mention of any cooling problems.. Although part of me is thinking get it changed as a precaution, like you say CharlesdeGaulle said:
I couldn't take that offer for a 124.
Sorry CDG, the chap is only a W124 only guardian 
I think I would keep my green 4 door, go with the 300-24 engine with all the issues sorted, with black leather and as much equipment as possible (apart from the climate so I could keep the normal knobs).
But I do a red interior...
r129sl said:
barchetta_boy said:
0a said:
I am in a similar position with my W124. It's rusty and needs a full respray but will only ever be worth about 3p as it's a 4 door and the 12v 300e. My approach is to just ignore this fact and crack on. I like it and it means a lot to me.
A thought experiment for a Thursday. As they all cost the same (a lot!) to get refurbished, assuming someone was prepared to pay for a full blown refurb for you, what W124 would you start with (assuming no AMGs, 500E - just a standard model). What bodystyle, engine, spec, colour...?
Smoke silver 320TE (pre facelift but with new engine, they do exist) with a black leather interior. 8 hole alloys. Sportline. 5 speed autobox. All the toys - all of them. IE: electric, heated, memory orthopaedic seats. Auxiliary heater with remote start. Sunroof and 7 seats of course. All the little buttons on the top of the centre console filled in and doing something. ASR. Factory wax protection (yes it was an option. I just want that to prove that the original owner was on a proper spree). In fact literally everything except climate control air conditioning - I prefer the 'normal' system with the 3 buttons in the middle that allows the driver and passenger their own heating controls.A thought experiment for a Thursday. As they all cost the same (a lot!) to get refurbished, assuming someone was prepared to pay for a full blown refurb for you, what W124 would you start with (assuming no AMGs, 500E - just a standard model). What bodystyle, engine, spec, colour...?
- 4matic
- Light beige leather
- Dark exterior colour
Not fussed about climate control!
brickwall said:
r129sl said:
barchetta_boy said:
0a said:
I am in a similar position with my W124. It's rusty and needs a full respray but will only ever be worth about 3p as it's a 4 door and the 12v 300e. My approach is to just ignore this fact and crack on. I like it and it means a lot to me.
A thought experiment for a Thursday. As they all cost the same (a lot!) to get refurbished, assuming someone was prepared to pay for a full blown refurb for you, what W124 would you start with (assuming no AMGs, 500E - just a standard model). What bodystyle, engine, spec, colour...?
Smoke silver 320TE (pre facelift but with new engine, they do exist) with a black leather interior. 8 hole alloys. Sportline. 5 speed autobox. All the toys - all of them. IE: electric, heated, memory orthopaedic seats. Auxiliary heater with remote start. Sunroof and 7 seats of course. All the little buttons on the top of the centre console filled in and doing something. ASR. Factory wax protection (yes it was an option. I just want that to prove that the original owner was on a proper spree). In fact literally everything except climate control air conditioning - I prefer the 'normal' system with the 3 buttons in the middle that allows the driver and passenger their own heating controls.A thought experiment for a Thursday. As they all cost the same (a lot!) to get refurbished, assuming someone was prepared to pay for a full blown refurb for you, what W124 would you start with (assuming no AMGs, 500E - just a standard model). What bodystyle, engine, spec, colour...?
- 4matic
- Light beige leather
- Dark exterior colour
Not fussed about climate control!
In budget, under 100k miles. http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C818336
I can't tell what the real condition is from the photos though.
I can't tell what the real condition is from the photos though.
r129sl said:
TheLordJohn said:
Thoughts moving onto children in the next few years, has made me look into AMG estates.
Found a few nice E55's and 63's (won't be able to afford for 10 years i reckon) but also found an R63 AMG.
Didn't even know they did an R63...!?
12 in the UK, no? Found a few nice E55's and 63's (won't be able to afford for 10 years i reckon) but also found an R63 AMG.
Didn't even know they did an R63...!?
Mercedes Enthusiast said:
October 2014: Performance Special
excerpt from an interview with AMG Chief Tobias Moers
Q How do arrive at the decision to turn a basic Mercedes-Benz model into a fire breathing AMG?
A This is a process that involves whether the base car is compatible with the AMG DNA in the first place. Then the proposed AMG model has to be right for its segment and perfectly represent our values. A case in point of a clear mistake was the R63 AMG [manufactured in 2006], which would never have passed muster today.
Thus while the GLA45 AMG woks very well we stayed away from the GLK although with Porsche Macan leading the compact sporty SUV segment in driving dynamics, we will now look very closely at the potential in the next GLK
excerpt from an interview with AMG Chief Tobias Moers
Q How do arrive at the decision to turn a basic Mercedes-Benz model into a fire breathing AMG?
A This is a process that involves whether the base car is compatible with the AMG DNA in the first place. Then the proposed AMG model has to be right for its segment and perfectly represent our values. A case in point of a clear mistake was the R63 AMG [manufactured in 2006], which would never have passed muster today.
Thus while the GLA45 AMG woks very well we stayed away from the GLK although with Porsche Macan leading the compact sporty SUV segment in driving dynamics, we will now look very closely at the potential in the next GLK
JF87 said:
Never quite seen the appeal of an E36, but if scarcity and LPGness rank high in your barge criteria this one looks pretty good. Even better after a heavy detint, and if you don't make the mistake of consulting the MOT history. I've played and lost a game of spot-the-gas-filler. Dark side of the rear valance?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-Benz-E36-3-6-Au...
£5,499; 90k.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-Benz-E36-3-6-Au...
£5,499; 90k.
AdvertVerbage said:
INFO ABOUT E36 AMG'S
the engines were 3606cc m104.941 engines with boasted 2697bhp
the engines were 3606cc m104.941 engines with boasted 2697bhp
0a said:
In budget, under 100k miles. http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C818336
I can't tell what the real condition is from the photos though.
6000 miles in last (almost) 4 years and no MOT advisories since 2010. Looks promising.I can't tell what the real condition is from the photos though.
r129sl said:
12 in the UK, no?
Unsure of numbers, I'd just never been aware of their existence! "October 2014: Performance Special
excerpt from an interview with AMG Chief Tobias Moers
Q How do arrive at the decision to turn a basic Mercedes-Benz model into a fire breathing AMG?
A This is a process that involves whether the base car is compatible with the AMG DNA in the first place."
It's alright getting all high and mighty over what gets the AMG treatment, but that doesn't really wash when they will stick an AMG-Line/Pack/Spec on literally any diesel Merc going.
I know they think it's different, but it's still diluting the brand.
See Audi for S-Line; BMW M-Sport no better etc
Edited by TheLordJohn on Friday 9th December 07:07
0a said:
I didn't say you'd get free maintenance though - why 4matic out of interest. My W124 doesn't have enough traction to need it in normal circumstances!
Ha I'm sure the 4matic would be troublesome! I'd like it because I'd want to take the W124 to the alps, skiing. Also a key reason why I'd like a later model with a 5-speed box, for more relaxed cruisingI'd like a matching pair of E36s (I know AMG was forbidden, but rules are made to be broken).
I'd take a cabrio with a weisman hardtop and an estate too which will cover most bases. No need for a saloon or a coupe.
If arm was twisted I would have a stretched one too. No ambulance or hearse required. Though a second estate kitted out as cycle team car might come in handy.
Colour will be 904 dunkelblau (to match my 107, though blue-black or nautic would do too) with pebble leather, post face-lift body style. I want aircon but not fussy which type. I don't want unnecessary electricals though, so no leccy seats. I would like a sunshine roof in the estate/s which must be 7-seats.
I'd take a cabrio with a weisman hardtop and an estate too which will cover most bases. No need for a saloon or a coupe.
If arm was twisted I would have a stretched one too. No ambulance or hearse required. Though a second estate kitted out as cycle team car might come in handy.
Colour will be 904 dunkelblau (to match my 107, though blue-black or nautic would do too) with pebble leather, post face-lift body style. I want aircon but not fussy which type. I don't want unnecessary electricals though, so no leccy seats. I would like a sunshine roof in the estate/s which must be 7-seats.
£2,500: nice colours, low-ish miles, new ABC pump and a peachy MOT history. Bit of a farmer-style mess inside.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MERCEDES-CL500-AUTO-BLUE...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MERCEDES-CL500-AUTO-BLUE...
Pothole said:
0a said:
In budget, under 100k miles. http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C818336
I can't tell what the real condition is from the photos though.
6000 miles in last (almost) 4 years and no MOT advisories since 2010. Looks promising.I can't tell what the real condition is from the photos though.
idiotgap said:
r129sl said:
TheLordJohn said:
Thoughts moving onto children in the next few years, has made me look into AMG estates.
Found a few nice E55's and 63's (won't be able to afford for 10 years i reckon) but also found an R63 AMG.
Didn't even know they did an R63...!?
12 in the UK, no? Found a few nice E55's and 63's (won't be able to afford for 10 years i reckon) but also found an R63 AMG.
Didn't even know they did an R63...!?
Mercedes Enthusiast said:
October 2014: Performance Special
excerpt from an interview with AMG Chief Tobias Moers
Q How do arrive at the decision to turn a basic Mercedes-Benz model into a fire breathing AMG?
A This is a process that involves whether the base car is compatible with the AMG DNA in the first place. Then the proposed AMG model has to be right for its segment and perfectly represent our values. A case in point of a clear mistake was the R63 AMG [manufactured in 2006], which would never have passed muster today.
Thus while the GLA45 AMG woks very well we stayed away from the GLK although with Porsche Macan leading the compact sporty SUV segment in driving dynamics, we will now look very closely at the potential in the next GLK
excerpt from an interview with AMG Chief Tobias Moers
Q How do arrive at the decision to turn a basic Mercedes-Benz model into a fire breathing AMG?
A This is a process that involves whether the base car is compatible with the AMG DNA in the first place. Then the proposed AMG model has to be right for its segment and perfectly represent our values. A case in point of a clear mistake was the R63 AMG [manufactured in 2006], which would never have passed muster today.
Thus while the GLA45 AMG woks very well we stayed away from the GLK although with Porsche Macan leading the compact sporty SUV segment in driving dynamics, we will now look very closely at the potential in the next GLK
These all apparently carry the right 'DNA', but the R class was a 'clear mistake'?
Sounds like egregious b
ks to me.SpeckledJim said:
They happily do AMG versions of E and S Class limousines, and AMG versions of GL and, GLE and G class 4x4s.
These all apparently carry the right 'DNA', but the R class was a 'clear mistake'?
Sounds like egregious bks to me.
I got lift from a colleague once in his R500 and I enjoyed it very much, I can't see the problem with it myself.These all apparently carry the right 'DNA', but the R class was a 'clear mistake'?
Sounds like egregious b
ks to me.You can't really take marketing bull written about marketing bull seriously!
idiotgap said:
SpeckledJim said:
They happily do AMG versions of E and S Class limousines, and AMG versions of GL and, GLE and G class 4x4s.
These all apparently carry the right 'DNA', but the R class was a 'clear mistake'?
Sounds like egregious bks to me.
I got lift from a colleague once in his R500 and I enjoyed it very much, I can't see the problem with it myself.These all apparently carry the right 'DNA', but the R class was a 'clear mistake'?
Sounds like egregious b
ks to me.You can't really take marketing bull written about marketing bull seriously!
R class wasn't at all sporty, but it was still more sporty than a G, GL, or GLE, which apparently 'pass muster'.
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