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[slippery]

SpeckledJim said:

bmthnick1981 said:

K12Beano provided this shot from his journey from Norwich to Bournemouth;

Did he send you the video of the J-turns we did on B&Q car park? Can't believe it fitted through those bollards. Well, second attempt it did.

What about the video when 8 of us went through Maccy's drive-thru all sat on the roof?

Does it still smell of sick? We tried pretty hard to clean it up but after we stole that petrol we couldn't stop in one place for long. Might have to wait until the first hot day before you can tell whether we got all the milkshake out.

[SilverSixer]

Stegel said:

SilverSixer said:

Cheers, Stegel. My local Merc indie says the problem you describe is common on the V6 - a close neighbour with a 2009 V6 had it happen last year. However, they say turbo problems are virtually unheard of on the I6, which is what is causing them doubt and the reason they didn't tell me to replace the turbo straight away, rather see if the problem worsens. They seemed to be saying that they were surprised the STAR diagnosis pointed to the turbo when they were suspicious of the TC. Symptoms as I've experienced though sound far more similar to the issues people get with turbos on the V6.

So I iz well confused, innit. And spending £80 or so on an actuator recondition wouldn't be too great a loss if it didn't fix the issue. Although it would put me back to square 1 on whether it's the turbo, the TC, or both. Indie says both jobs are about the same price, so it's a right lottery which one to do first. And I am not renowned for my luck when it comes to our four-wheeled friends.

I understand it is indeed far more common on the V6. When I was Googling the issue I did come across a few turbo related tales relating to the straight six - from memory some were on the mbclub.co.uk forum.

Yes, I've been having a root around on there too.

I'll see what Speckled Jim comes up with tomorrow and take it from there. I think I'm probably staring down the barrel of a new turbo though, and will have to get it done before long summer continental drives with family, luggage and bikes etc. Sigh. Cheaper than leasing a new car of equivalent size and power though.

[SpeckledJim]

Mini-update to the missus' E-Class CDi running problem. (I'm calling it Wastegategate)

Swapping on a known-to-be-good actuator has made the problem almost go away. Almost. But fault code 2616 (exhaust back pressure) is still occurring. But, whilst the car has almost completely stopped bucking, and feels a bit down on power, it's not the flinching cripple it was this morning.

I'm going to experiment with a few things more, and I'll report back.

[ian316]

0a said:

If, say, a classic Mercedes sort of chap were to be about to purchase a 1999 XJ 4.0 would there be anything in particular to be aware of?

The car has had new front wings with paint, and the owner seems like a very genuine sort of chap indeed.

I have a telephone call with him tomorrow.

The only problem I had with my xj8 was the plastic thermostat housing, strangely an alloy replacement from ebay was cheaper than a plastic one, and only took me 30 minutes

[Stegel]

I think it's very healthy for this thread to have a discussion of (unhealthy) diesels for once. Just to add to the change in tone, the CLS is silver with a black interior - thread takeover complete!

[Minemapper]

Interesting read re: turbo/actuator issues. My W211 was just starting to show signs of this when I sold it in late 2015. I'll consider that a bullet dodged then.

[deadslow]

ian316 said:

0a said:

If, say, a classic Mercedes sort of chap were to be about to purchase a 1999 XJ 4.0 would there be anything in particular to be aware of?

The car has had new front wings with paint, and the owner seems like a very genuine sort of chap indeed.

I have a telephone call with him tomorrow.

The only problem I had with my xj8 was the plastic thermostat housing, strangely an alloy replacement from ebay was cheaper than a plastic one, and only took me 30 minutes

throttle bodies are a weak spot. The sensors can go, and you need to replace the whole thing. My '99 xjr had 2 go in 7 months (though the second one was second hand £125).

[BrabusMog]

Stegel said:

I think it's very healthy for this thread to have a discussion of (unhealthy) diesels for once. Just to add to the change in tone, the CLS is silver with a black interior - thread takeover complete!

Nothing wrong with silver/black.

I ran my dad's old W reg E38 resplendent in Arctic Silver and black leather interior. Looked great on M-Parallel's.

[anonymous-user]

It might not be the best engine... but isnpired by bmthenick's purchase.

Its a very early (51 reg) 735i. "Every extra" the seller says.. with just 50,000 miles on the clock. 3.6 liter V8, but still a bit of shove with 270 bhp. Finished in Toledo Blue with Beige Nasca leather interior.
Change for a Bargain bucket and fries on the greasy, but supremely comfortable way home...

http://www.lancashiresports.co.uk/used-bmw-7%20ser...

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Coupe barge? No way! Jaguar XK8 with the Jaguar V8... 1997 with just 60,000 miles. Obviously the 4.0 Jag V8... http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

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And finally, as part of my barge celebration post, a 2001, Cosmos Black, manual, V8, 535i E39. Maybe not as desirable to bargistas with the M Sport config and manual gearbox but, my , it does look nice. A bit heavy on the miles at 169k but well looked after.
http://m.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C845470

[Stegel]

BrabusMog said:

Stegel said:

I think it's very healthy for this thread to have a discussion of (unhealthy) diesels for once. Just to add to the change in tone, the CLS is silver with a black interior - thread takeover complete!

Nothing wrong with silver/black.

I ran my dad's old W reg E38 resplendent in Arctic Silver and black leather interior. Looked great on M-Parallel's.

I wholly agree - it was a reference to the occasional skirmish between the black / silver with black interior faction and the "progressive front for colour combos that took the manufacturers' order books by surprise".

[CharlesdeGaulle]

Stegel said:

I wholly agree - it was a reference to the occasional skirmish between the black / silver with black interior faction and the "progressive front for colour combos that took the manufacturers' order books by surprise".

[BrabusMog]

Stegel said:

BrabusMog said:

Stegel said:

I think it's very healthy for this thread to have a discussion of (unhealthy) diesels for once. Just to add to the change in tone, the CLS is silver with a black interior - thread takeover complete!

Nothing wrong with silver/black.

I ran my dad's old W reg E38 resplendent in Arctic Silver and black leather interior. Looked great on M-Parallel's.

I wholly agree - it was a reference to the occasional skirmish between the black / silver with black interior faction and the "progressive front for colour combos that took the manufacturers' order books by surprise".

Ah, threadists go against popular choice shocker

I do remember someone on PH years ago bemoaning "recession white" when moaning about Golf GTi's (I think) and that did resonate. But nothing wrong with silver/black cars or resale grey - as a leaser those are/were the stock vehicles

[cat220]

0a said:

SpeckledJim said:

There's a fairly famous XJ buyer's guide posted by a chap called JaguarSteve that gets passed round the Jaguar subforum regularly, I'd try to track that down, it's excellent.

As said, rust is the risk - most of the oily bits are available, cheap, and lots of it is DIY-able. I've not found working on my Jaguars the absolute pleasure that working on an old Mercedes usually is, but it's not at all bad.

A 1999 Jaguar might carry the same badge as a 1970's / early 1980's Jaguar, but in quality terms they're not comparable.

Thanks. I have a train booked for tomorrow.

Exciting! Let us know how it goes.

[Lagerlout]

tog said:

Lagerlout said:

Surely such a chap would be better off buying a lovely Azurite blue W140 S500 at a bargain basement, cut price thus insuring he stayed faithful to the three pointed star??

tobinen said:

I am surprised to hear that has not sold LL.

Have you a link?

Yeah, it's here. Ignore the price, I'll listen to cheeky offers.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/133746415@N08/sets/7...

[r129sl]

SpeckledJim said:

mccrackenj said:

SpeckledJim said:

A 1999 Jaguar might carry the same badge as a 1970's / early 1980's Jaguar, but in quality terms they're not comparable.

So Mercedes in reverse basically?


BTW I haven't forgotten about a certain 'thread book' that I promised to pass on once I'd finished. It was you who pm'd me wasn't it? Must get it read.

I think it was, thanks for remembering. No rush, but as-and-when you're done with it I'll happily accept temporary custody, ready to pass it on again once digested.

I have, er, a few more copies. Anyone who wants one, send me a PM.

[CharlesdeGaulle]

Lagerlout said:

Yeah, it's here. Ignore the price, I'll listen to cheeky offers.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/133746415@N08/sets/7...

That's a great looking car. Someone here needs to buy that, especially at a discounted thread price.

[Paulog13]

As a regular browser of this thread, I "doff my cap" to all owners of the various barges and their enthusiasm for their cars. That, together with their maintenance or light restoration to their cars keeps me thinking that I am not mad in the fastidious maintenance/care I have treated my own cars to over the years....

Having just sold a Cayenne V8 which although not a barge in the true sense of the word, it was approaching the territory value wise. It had just turned over 163K miles!! However, as it has cost £36,199.72 since 1st Jan 2011 in maintenance and fuel a new car beckons....

Lagerlout that is a stunning S500 you have, and I trust that you will find a new owner for it who will hopefully continue to keep it in the fine fettle which it is presented in.

[Lagerlout]

Cheers, I want to sell it to a bargisti otherwise I'll put it into long term storage as I just don't have the time/space to drive it at the moment. Not going to be advertising the car. Would be great to get someone who will finish the little jobs that are left to do to make him perfect.

[cat220]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Lagerlout said:

Yeah, it's here. Ignore the price, I'll listen to cheeky offers.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/133746415@N08/sets/7...

That's a great looking car. Someone here needs to buy that, especially at a discounted thread price.

+1 stunning!

[nobrakes]

2006 730i L

Barge limit for 5 bags, Shirley.

Ok, it picks up the 500 tax, but it looks in great shape, has barge profile tyres and only 68k miles...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...


Heated steering wheel and electric blinds.