What cars should you not modify
Discussion
Shnozz said:
Bought my Exige with a view to exactly what I wanted to create in terms of power, suspension, brakes etc. I also stripped the interior and rebuilt it to the exact spec I wanted. Thoroughly enjoyed it as a project spanning 3 - 4 years. Was it chav? Don't know and don't really care.
It's been the only car I have truly modified other than the odd exhaust or light swap etc over the years.
I wouldn't even dare putting a sticker on the Aston. I've not seen any that have been played with that look better than standard TBH.
It's been the only car I have truly modified other than the odd exhaust or light swap etc over the years.
I wouldn't even dare putting a sticker on the Aston. I've not seen any that have been played with that look better than standard TBH.
PGNSagaris said:
I tend to agree re the Aston. They really do look special from the factory. Not seen a modded Aston I've thought looked good.
On the other hand, modding a 996 can often improve the looks.... I may be biased
I agree there is very little to do to improve them however, as the topic of modding in general there is still plenty that can be done.On the other hand, modding a 996 can often improve the looks.... I may be biased
Example
Skirts
Clear rear lights
Alloys
Front grill (bar configuration)
Aluminium knobs for radio
suspension upgrades
De-chrome windows on coupe's
Most of the reason above is why i purchased an N400 as they come standard but if done to a normal V8V then still modding
Gratuitous photo
STILLJOE said:
Jesus said:
Not cars, but vans - seeing lots of new vans modded with massive wheels, lowered (lowered? - it's a van, made for carrying stuff that's sometimes heavy) side bars and big Jimmy Hill chin spoilers.
Bally awful.
one of my mates has a modified caddy van - chipped, big brakes, skirts, lots of interior upgrades, phaeton wheels, dropped on its arse etc - it's his works van (he fits trackers, parking sensors etc to vehicles) so argues it fits with his job. Bloody useless if he has to go anywhere that has big speed bumps or for the building site he was on the other week though.Bally awful.
Can't quite get the correlation of a modified van to fitting some plastic parking sensors to Mrs Jones' battered Micra.
It's not quite Orange County Choppers, is it?
300bhp/ton said:
I think that's a rather narrow view of the world. Driving and traveling are hardly direct substitutes are they? I mean, come on, lets be serious.
If you get say 20 days holiday a year. And you can buy a set of new wheels for maybe £30/month over 12 months and you only have 4 days holiday left. Then a fortnight in the Caribbean is hardly likely to be an option is it.
Not too mention mods are pretty varied. Yet you seem to claim they are all chav and a waste.
This is one of my modded vehicles, very heavily modded. Maybe you still consider it chav however...??
And I can tell you, it's a much better vehicle modified than it was standard.
This is another one of my 'modified' vehicles. But I'm still puzzled how this is chav either?
And I've got this, which is very heavily modified and must completely sum up what being 'chav' is all about
despite being a lot more fun now than it ever was standard.
that union jack bunting is chavIf you get say 20 days holiday a year. And you can buy a set of new wheels for maybe £30/month over 12 months and you only have 4 days holiday left. Then a fortnight in the Caribbean is hardly likely to be an option is it.
Not too mention mods are pretty varied. Yet you seem to claim they are all chav and a waste.
This is one of my modded vehicles, very heavily modded. Maybe you still consider it chav however...??
And I can tell you, it's a much better vehicle modified than it was standard.
This is another one of my 'modified' vehicles. But I'm still puzzled how this is chav either?
And I've got this, which is very heavily modified and must completely sum up what being 'chav' is all about
despite being a lot more fun now than it ever was standard.
wormus said:
I must be a vandal then. What about replacing one LS engine with a slightly more powerful one/adding a supercharger?
Did you read any of my post. Vandals replace TVR engines with LS engines. Replace Porsche engines, Ferrari engines, even MGB or frog eye sprite engines with LS.Why would replacing an LS with an LS be the same?
What words or phrases should you not modify?
Stand out from theheardherd
Forshoresure
tommorowtomorrow
Or is it just a matter of taste?
I am a fan of the sleeper approach - my 1986 MR2 is significantly modified (engine, gearbox, suspension,...), but only another MR2 enthusiast could tell, and that's the way I like it.
Oh, and Nanook : shoehorning an LS v8 in the back would ruin it IMO, and probably make it slower around a track (definitely slower in a slalom).
Stand out from the
For
Or is it just a matter of taste?
I am a fan of the sleeper approach - my 1986 MR2 is significantly modified (engine, gearbox, suspension,...), but only another MR2 enthusiast could tell, and that's the way I like it.
Oh, and Nanook : shoehorning an LS v8 in the back would ruin it IMO, and probably make it slower around a track (definitely slower in a slalom).
Performance mods i have no beef with 
Its when Car manufacturers spend considerable amounts of money letting designers create a brilliant design which goes through to production.
And then some person goes to town with tacky bodykits and thinks they know better
There are people out there who "liberty Walk" Ferraris.
NO!
Its when Car manufacturers spend considerable amounts of money letting designers create a brilliant design which goes through to production.
And then some person goes to town with tacky bodykits and thinks they know better
There are people out there who "liberty Walk" Ferraris.
NO!
julian64 said:
wormus said:
I must be a vandal then. What about replacing one LS engine with a slightly more powerful one/adding a supercharger?
Did you read any of my post. Vandals replace TVR engines with LS engines. Replace Porsche engines, Ferrari engines, even MGB or frog eye sprite engines with LS.Why would replacing an LS with an LS be the same?
julian64 said:
Its not the cars, its the people who shouldn't modify.
Most people who modify separate into two different types.
1) Those people who want to enhance a cars appearance or performance
2) Those people who think a LS engine is the answer to any question yet to be asked
Type one are usually enthusiasts with an interest in the cars they are modding. Type 2 are just car vandals who's justification for everything they do is the BHP with no regard to character, quality, or sensitivity.
I actually like the LS engine, but some people want it in everything that has wheel in each corner.
I saw no reference to TVRs, MGBs, Porsches, Ferraris or Frog Eye Sprites that that matter. Mine originally had a normally aspirated LS1 with about 350hp, now as a supercharged LSA with just over 800hp. Thought I understood your point but obviously not.Most people who modify separate into two different types.
1) Those people who want to enhance a cars appearance or performance
2) Those people who think a LS engine is the answer to any question yet to be asked
Type one are usually enthusiasts with an interest in the cars they are modding. Type 2 are just car vandals who's justification for everything they do is the BHP with no regard to character, quality, or sensitivity.
I actually like the LS engine, but some people want it in everything that has wheel in each corner.
FIREBIRDC9 said:
There are people out there who "liberty Walk" Ferraris.
In my defense, those are the only modded Fezzas i like 
And its mainly because i really enjoy those rivet on arches and fat tyresAnd you people will all be pleased to hear that yesterday me and the GF restored her 6N polo to the original rear lights, rather then the godawful lexus look tat that was on there. It is now just an unmolested parcelshelf away from being just how VW intended it.
Christ, this is 2016. We're not back in the Max Power magazine era. There are always going to be some truly taste-less modified cars out there but it's all a subjective matter.
Modifications aren't just about aesthetics either, believe it or not. There is also engine tuning and suspension work that can be done as apposed to daft body kits, spoilers and alloys.
Modifications aren't just about aesthetics either, believe it or not. There is also engine tuning and suspension work that can be done as apposed to daft body kits, spoilers and alloys.
Vitorio said:
TerryThomas said:
I've yet to see a nicely modified Lamborghini.
Then again, Liberty Walk are the only people id trust to modify a Ferrari
Herbs said:
Shnozz said:
Bought my Exige with a view to exactly what I wanted to create in terms of power, suspension, brakes etc. I also stripped the interior and rebuilt it to the exact spec I wanted. Thoroughly enjoyed it as a project spanning 3 - 4 years. Was it chav? Don't know and don't really care.
It's been the only car I have truly modified other than the odd exhaust or light swap etc over the years.
I wouldn't even dare putting a sticker on the Aston. I've not seen any that have been played with that look better than standard TBH.
It's been the only car I have truly modified other than the odd exhaust or light swap etc over the years.
I wouldn't even dare putting a sticker on the Aston. I've not seen any that have been played with that look better than standard TBH.
PGNSagaris said:
I tend to agree re the Aston. They really do look special from the factory. Not seen a modded Aston I've thought looked good.
On the other hand, modding a 996 can often improve the looks.... I may be biased
I agree there is very little to do to improve them however, as the topic of modding in general there is still plenty that can be done.On the other hand, modding a 996 can often improve the looks.... I may be biased
Example
Skirts
Clear rear lights
Alloys
Front grill (bar configuration)
Aluminium knobs for radio
suspension upgrades
De-chrome windows on coupe's
Most of the reason above is why i purchased an N400 as they come standard but if done to a normal V8V then still modding
Gratuitous photo
caelite said:
V8 FOU said:
I don't think I have an un-modified car.
Bentley Turbo R with carbon fibre roof, stripped out for track use.
Que?Bentley Turbo R with carbon fibre roof, stripped out for track use.
It's worth a read - inspired madness.
I can't remember all of it, but I do recall a water spray system to try and keep the brakes cool
.wormus said:
I saw no reference to TVRs, MGBs, Porsches, Ferraris or Frog Eye Sprites that that matter. Mine originally had a normally aspirated LS1 with about 350hp, now as a supercharged LSA with just over 800hp. Thought I understood your point but obviously not.
The last line :julian64 said:
I actually like the LS engine, but some people want it in everything that has wheel in each corner.
makes me think he would approve of your mods.It depends upon the car. Every car I have ever had I have modified up until my current car.
I always planned to make my 911 look like the RS version as I have access to a set of wheels. However the car is too nice and original to mess with it so it has kept the silver calipers, turbo twist wheels and grey interior.
To be honest the fact that the value has increased over the years I have owned it puts me off messing with it as it would cost me thousands to get the bits whilst at the same time knocking thousands of pounds off the value.
I always planned to make my 911 look like the RS version as I have access to a set of wheels. However the car is too nice and original to mess with it so it has kept the silver calipers, turbo twist wheels and grey interior.
To be honest the fact that the value has increased over the years I have owned it puts me off messing with it as it would cost me thousands to get the bits whilst at the same time knocking thousands of pounds off the value.
I have to modify... when I buy a new car and it's standard I honestly hate the experience, no matter how much of an upgrade it is to my previous car! It just doesn't feel like 'mine' until I've made some personal touches to it. It's the same as moving into a new house when it's been previously decorated (usually badly) it's someone else's opinion on what the house/car should look like, not yours!
Interesting point about the 'loud exhaust' on the first page. I'm changing the exhaust on my MINI to increase crackles and pops I just like the sound and life's too short to not enjoy what you can.
You could argue that everything I do has a positive effect on the car anyway, if that's important to people. Smaller wheels and new tyres, coilover suspension and proper camber set up improves my handling... and exhaust, CAI and supercharger pulley for more power. The fact that it all looks better (in my opinion) helps too!
Interesting point about the 'loud exhaust' on the first page. I'm changing the exhaust on my MINI to increase crackles and pops
I just like the sound and life's too short to not enjoy what you can.You could argue that everything I do has a positive effect on the car anyway, if that's important to people. Smaller wheels and new tyres, coilover suspension and proper camber set up improves my handling... and exhaust, CAI and supercharger pulley for more power. The fact that it all looks better (in my opinion) helps too!
Zod said:
Herbs said:
Shnozz said:
Bought my Exige with a view to exactly what I wanted to create in terms of power, suspension, brakes etc. I also stripped the interior and rebuilt it to the exact spec I wanted. Thoroughly enjoyed it as a project spanning 3 - 4 years. Was it chav? Don't know and don't really care.
It's been the only car I have truly modified other than the odd exhaust or light swap etc over the years.
I wouldn't even dare putting a sticker on the Aston. I've not seen any that have been played with that look better than standard TBH.
It's been the only car I have truly modified other than the odd exhaust or light swap etc over the years.
I wouldn't even dare putting a sticker on the Aston. I've not seen any that have been played with that look better than standard TBH.
PGNSagaris said:
I tend to agree re the Aston. They really do look special from the factory. Not seen a modded Aston I've thought looked good.
On the other hand, modding a 996 can often improve the looks.... I may be biased
I agree there is very little to do to improve them however, as the topic of modding in general there is still plenty that can be done.On the other hand, modding a 996 can often improve the looks.... I may be biased
Example
Skirts
Clear rear lights
Alloys
Front grill (bar configuration)
Aluminium knobs for radio
suspension upgrades
De-chrome windows on coupe's
Most of the reason above is why i purchased an N400 as they come standard but if done to a normal V8V then still modding
Gratuitous photo
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Ahhhhh, the Emperors new body kit. This happens more often than not in America where a few key publications dictate trends. Take Hotrod Magazine for example. A few years ago they slated the whole Rat look thing but now editor, chief and hypocrite David Freiburger goes to a scrap yard (or his own back garden) once a month to bodge two or more wrecks together and all it "Roadkill".
Remember the Max Power vs Fast Car bhp wars from the late 90's. Every month one magazine would have an 800bhp Skyline, followed by a 840bhp Supra, followed by a 900bhp whatever and so on. Then it was 17's, 18's, 19's 22's on bloody Saxo's.
Then it was stupid body kits, Lamborghini door hinges (even though they had stopped using them), sticker bombing, Dub Scene b
ks and on and on and on...People where stupid enough to use these influences as a yard stick and followed like lemmings off a cliff.
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