Aggression on the Roads...

[TameRacingDriver]

People do seem to be more aggressive these days, agree with the others. Blowing their tops over the slightest thing.

As I said earlier, I try not to react in any way now. I just call them a under my breath and move on.

As said by another poster, blowing kisses seems to make people go ballistic. Probably the closet homosexuality in play there.

[ashleyman]

It's not just the roads. The whole world is becoming a more stressful place to live. It's no surprise that some of that stress can lead to aggression on the roads.

[sebulban]

Rubin215 said:

Which is another reason I don't get involved in aggro by the roadside.

A few years ago, a good old-fashioned brawler like me could afford to take a couple of slaps to get in close; once I had my hands on you, that was it, you were fked.

These days, so many young men are doing different types of jap-slapping or kiss-cuddle-and-torture you never know when you're going to get tied into a double-chuff-lock by someone you previously thought was a 10-stone weakling.

I don't know whether that is a wind up or a genuine message LOL.

If Im included the "you were fked" comment I would simply respond I have had LOADS of "brawlers" in my MMA gym & met them out and about. And they have all been handled the same way.

I dont kiss and cuddle anyone - I am a submission grappler.... which translated to the street scenario is effectively like having a special power if you are untrained.

That being said - I am a martial artist. I do not go out drinking and looking for trouble. And I do not use violence when it is not required. Even in the face of verbal attacks - I just respond in kind.

I reiterated my earlier sentiment though, which is I cannot get into the mindset of threatening someone with violence or escalating a situation to that level when you have little or no change of backing it up.

[LittleEnus]

sebulban said:

I don't know whether that is a wind up or a genuine message LOL.

If Im included the "you were fked" comment I would simply respond I have had LOADS of "brawlers" in my MMA gym & met them out and about. And they have all been handled the same way.

I dont kiss and cuddle anyone - I am a submission grappler.... which translated to the street scenario is effectively like having a special power if you are untrained.

That being said - I am a martial artist. I do not go out drinking and looking for trouble. And I do not use violence when it is not required. Even in the face of verbal attacks - I just respond in kind.

I reiterated my earlier sentiment though, which is I cannot get into the mindset of threatening someone with violence or escalating a situation to that level when you have little or no change of backing it up.

Maybe the two of you could just compare penis sizes?

[sebulban]

LittleEnus said:

Maybe the two of you could just compare penis sizes?

Why are you thinking of penises :-/

[Rubin215]

sebulban said:

Rubin215 said:

Which is another reason I don't get involved in aggro by the roadside.

A few years ago, a good old-fashioned brawler like me could afford to take a couple of slaps to get in close; once I had my hands on you, that was it, you were fked.

These days, so many young men are doing different types of jap-slapping or kiss-cuddle-and-torture you never know when you're going to get tied into a double-chuff-lock by someone you previously thought was a 10-stone weakling.

I don't know whether that is a wind up or a genuine message LOL.

If Im included the "you were fked" comment I would simply respond I have had LOADS of "brawlers" in my MMA gym & met them out and about. And they have all been handled the same way.

I dont kiss and cuddle anyone - I am a submission grappler.... which translated to the street scenario is effectively like having a special power if you are untrained.

That being said - I am a martial artist. I do not go out drinking and looking for trouble. And I do not use violence when it is not required. Even in the face of verbal attacks - I just respond in kind.

I reiterated my earlier sentiment though, which is I cannot get into the mindset of threatening someone with violence or escalating a situation to that level when you have little or no change of backing it up.

No mate, you've read it the wrong way; I'm not having a go at you, put your attitude back in it's box.

Over the years I've had more than my share of street fights, won some, lost others. As Roy Batty said, "I have done questionable things."

Although I'm getting on a bit now, I've played rugby at a decent level, pumped iron for years, boxed and wrestled, done doors etc; that used to be enough to stand a fairly good chance if something kicked off.

These days I wouldn't get dragged into something purely because there are so many more people around who genuinely know how to handle themselves and my old school thuggish brutality is fairly easily negated by a regular training regime, flexibility and a bit of knowledge.

The only thing I still have going for me is a total lack of concern for the other person...

[Loyly]

sebulban said:

I kiss and cuddle - I am a submission grappler.... which translated to the street scenario is effectively like having a special power if you are untrained.

Thanks for the laugh, that cheered me up. 'Submission grappling', I can't think of any better way to get your head kicked in in a street fight.

[Cold]

You can almost smell the baby oil.

[anonymous-user]

It was enevitable I suppose.

[sebulban]

Rubin215 said:

No mate, you've read it the wrong way; I'm not having a go at you, put your attitude back in it's box.

Over the years I've had more than my share of street fights, won some, lost others. As Roy Batty said, "I have done questionable things."

Although I'm getting on a bit now, I've played rugby at a decent level, pumped iron for years, boxed and wrestled, done doors etc; that used to be enough to stand a fairly good chance if something kicked off.

These days I wouldn't get dragged into something purely because there are so many more people around who genuinely know how to handle themselves and my old school thuggish brutality is fairly easily negated by a regular training regime, flexibility and a bit of knowledge.

The only thing I still have going for me is a total lack of concern for the other person...

• gets back in box*

[sebulban]

Loyly said:

Thanks for the laugh, that cheered me up. 'Submission grappling', I can't think of any better way to get your head kicked in in a street fight.

You think Jiu Jitsu isnt an effective tool against an untrained fighter in the street? Erm..... ok. Good luck with that.

ANY martial art, even ones I don't think are effective in proper combat, will RUIN some civilian on the street. Imagine even a basic Judo Player getting hold of someone and launching him through the air onto concrete.

I don't want to come across as a thug though as I am not that one bit. I have no interest in bar brawls and no really a drinker anymore on weekends anyways. But I will correct peoples logic.

[BRR]

Sebulban you think your martial arts and ability to think calm in a confrontational situation are any match for the powerfully built directors and their high horse on here? pfft

I do agree the amount of aggression on the roads and just by the public in general these days is crazy, I'm really not sure why people are so angry or why they are seemingly so happy to get into a fight or at least the precursors to a fight.

Edited by BRR on Monday 5th December 09:28

[essIII]

sebulban said:

will RUIN some civilian on the street.

At least buy them a drink first.

[sebulban]

BRR said:

Sebulban you think your martial arts and ability to think calm in a confrontational situation are any match for the powerfully built directors and their high horse on here? pfft

I do agree the amount of aggression on the roads and just by the public in general these days is crazy, I'm really not sure why people are so angry or why they are seemingly so happy to get into a fight or at least the precursors to a fight.

Edited by BRR on Monday 5th December 09:28

Hahahaha great post!!!

I am trying my best not be arrogant or come across as a thug as there is no tone on line and already got told to get back in my box - which is fair.

I am not some world champion & am relatively average. But I have been training 10+ years, am a Jiu Jitsu coach and have a winning MMA record. I like to think I talk from a position of understanding/power. I have seen how untrained people cope in street fights. Just because some guy smashes someone out in 10 seconds in a street fight doesn't mean his skills are practical. I have seen LOADs of street thugs & bouncers (without trying to stereotype) come through my gym. And not many stay. Because its HARD. Getting in a cage and going back beaten up round after round and then dragging your arse off your stool when the guy looks fresh!

And I agree the aggression levels are crazy. I wonder if its because i became more tuned in as can defend myself (to some extent). But last night a guy nearly caused an accident THEN had the nerve to start flipping people off. The only option that remains, if it were practical, is surely violence?

[Cold]

This is quickly slipping into 'roid rage. Just as aggressive, but a much more entertaining spectator sport.

[Alex_225]

I noticed this on Saturday. I was queuing coming off a slip road on the M25. Some little Joey Essex lookalike comes up the left hand lane, indicates and swings across in front of me. My reaction was a quick tap of the horn, a prolonged blast but an 'I'm here!!!' beep.

His door opens at the next set of lights and a load of abuse hurled at me!

So he does something wrong, he jumps a queue and then cuts a car up pretty damn close yet I'm apparently the "c**t".

[TazLondon]

There should be a new specific law for aggressive driving. There are plenty of people with dash cams now and there's a new police site where you can report unsafe driving. It's Met police only at the moment:

http://content.met.police.uk/Site/roadsafelondon

"We want to know about people who endanger other road users by:

Driving under the influence of drink or drugs
Driving with no insurance/licence
Speeding or dangerous driving
Using an un-roadworthy vehicle"

[lemmingjames]

Antony Moxey said:

Had this this very afternoon. On a traffic light controlled roundabout in the lane marked as straight ahead when a guy pulls up alongside on my left. As the lights go green he pulls off and immediately dives across the front of me go to the next exit to the right. I anchor up sharply and press the horn, he looks out of his window, gives me the coffee beans and mouths 'fk off'.

Err, what? You're in the wrong lane, nearly take the front of my car off with a stupid move (incidentally there was nothing behind me so he could easily have just waited and crossed the lanes behind me) and yet apparently I'm to blame? Still fit any consolation he was driving a Kia Carens which he'll have to suffer every time he steps out his front door.

He didnt happen to be in a white Insignia, 11 Plate did he?

Had something similar two weekends ago when said driver cut me up on a round-a-bout, no indication, both our lanes went straight on with his lane clear, beeped as youd do, so he started to crawl, so i flashed - so he stopped the car, leant out of the window and you could see his neck had gone red with the veins popping out while shouting something at me. Said driver then proceed to drive straight, moved back over into 'his' lane and did less than the speed limit, until someone went to overtake him upon which he pulled out on them, no indication.

Keeping a distance back, watched him indicate and cars leave a gap, upon which he didnt move into or just cut someone up without indication

[e21Mark]

TazLondon said:

There should be a new specific law for aggressive driving. There are plenty of people with dash cams now and there's a new police site where you can report unsafe driving. It's Met police only at the moment:

http://content.met.police.uk/Site/roadsafelondon

"We want to know about people who endanger other road users by:

Driving under the influence of drink or drugs
Driving with no insurance/licence
Speeding or dangerous driving
Using an un-roadworthy vehicle"

Sadly I've seen a few suspicious drivers late at night, where they appear to be under influence of drink or drugs. Personally I have no problem reporting them but I wonder whether the BiB have the resources/time to respond?

[ashleyman]

TazLondon said:

There should be a new specific law for aggressive driving. There are plenty of people with dash cams now and there's a new police site where you can report unsafe driving. It's Met police only at the moment:

http://content.met.police.uk/Site/roadsafelondon

"We want to know about people who endanger other road users by:

Driving under the influence of drink or drugs
Driving with no insurance/licence
Speeding or dangerous driving
Using an un-roadworthy vehicle"

MET Police don't care though!!

I was sat in traffic this morning at a red light and next to me was a Police car. People run red lights at this junction ALL the time.
Did a car run it this morning? Yes.
Did the Police do anything? No.
I was pretty shocked as it was so blatant. I'm assuming the Police officers were almost done with their shift as it was close to the station so they just ignored it.