Aggression on the Roads...
Discussion
lemmingjames said:
Antony Moxey said:
Had this this very afternoon. On a traffic light controlled roundabout in the lane marked as straight ahead when a guy pulls up alongside on my left. As the lights go green he pulls off and immediately dives across the front of me go to the next exit to the right. I anchor up sharply and press the horn, he looks out of his window, gives me the coffee beans and mouths 'f
k off'.
Err, what? You're in the wrong lane, nearly take the front of my car off with a stupid move (incidentally there was nothing behind me so he could easily have just waited and crossed the lanes behind me) and yet apparently I'm to blame? Still fit any consolation he was driving a Kia Carens which he'll have to suffer every time he steps out his front door.
He didnt happen to be in a white Insignia, 11 Plate did he? k off'.Err, what? You're in the wrong lane, nearly take the front of my car off with a stupid move (incidentally there was nothing behind me so he could easily have just waited and crossed the lanes behind me) and yet apparently I'm to blame? Still fit any consolation he was driving a Kia Carens which he'll have to suffer every time he steps out his front door.
Antony Moxey said:
Had this this very afternoon. On a traffic light controlled roundabout in the lane marked as straight ahead when a guy pulls up alongside on my left. As the lights go green he pulls off and immediately dives across the front of me go to the next exit to the right. I anchor up sharply and press the horn, he looks out of his window, gives me the coffee beans and mouths 'fk off'.
Err, what? You're in the wrong lane, nearly take the front of my car off with a stupid move (incidentally there was nothing behind me so he could easily have just waited and crossed the lanes behind me) and yet apparently I'm to blame? Still fit any consolation he was driving a Kia Carens which he'll have to suffer every time he steps out his front door.
He was clearly a knob, but if he didn't give you sufficient cause to sound your horn as he cut across you, why did you sound it later? I would class that as 'road rage'.k off'.Err, what? You're in the wrong lane, nearly take the front of my car off with a stupid move (incidentally there was nothing behind me so he could easily have just waited and crossed the lanes behind me) and yet apparently I'm to blame? Still fit any consolation he was driving a Kia Carens which he'll have to suffer every time he steps out his front door.
ashleyman said:
MET Police don't care though!!
I was sat in traffic this morning at a red light and next to me was a Police car. People run red lights at this junction ALL the time.
Did a car run it this morning? Yes.
Did the Police do anything? No.
I was pretty shocked as it was so blatant. I'm assuming the Police officers were almost done with their shift as it was close to the station so they just ignored it.
I've never understood this. Red light jumping seems to be the worst it's ever been, probably showing a correlation with the aggression. But given clowns are accelerating to beat reds, surely this is one of the next big things to clamp down on? A copper could sit at just about any traffic lighted junction and make a fortune, far more beneficial to society than chasing people doing 70 in an NSL.I was sat in traffic this morning at a red light and next to me was a Police car. People run red lights at this junction ALL the time.
Did a car run it this morning? Yes.
Did the Police do anything? No.
I was pretty shocked as it was so blatant. I'm assuming the Police officers were almost done with their shift as it was close to the station so they just ignored it.
xjay1337 said:
lemmingjames said:
Antony Moxey said:
Had this this very afternoon. On a traffic light controlled roundabout in the lane marked as straight ahead when a guy pulls up alongside on my left. As the lights go green he pulls off and immediately dives across the front of me go to the next exit to the right. I anchor up sharply and press the horn, he looks out of his window, gives me the coffee beans and mouths 'fk off'.
Err, what? You're in the wrong lane, nearly take the front of my car off with a stupid move (incidentally there was nothing behind me so he could easily have just waited and crossed the lanes behind me) and yet apparently I'm to blame? Still fit any consolation he was driving a Kia Carens which he'll have to suffer every time he steps out his front door.
He didnt happen to be in a white Insignia, 11 Plate did he? k off'.Err, what? You're in the wrong lane, nearly take the front of my car off with a stupid move (incidentally there was nothing behind me so he could easily have just waited and crossed the lanes behind me) and yet apparently I'm to blame? Still fit any consolation he was driving a Kia Carens which he'll have to suffer every time he steps out his front door.
Boydie88 said:
ashleyman said:
MET Police don't care though!!
I was sat in traffic this morning at a red light and next to me was a Police car. People run red lights at this junction ALL the time.
Did a car run it this morning? Yes.
Did the Police do anything? No.
I was pretty shocked as it was so blatant. I'm assuming the Police officers were almost done with their shift as it was close to the station so they just ignored it.
I've never understood this. Red light jumping seems to be the worst it's ever been, probably showing a correlation with the aggression. But given clowns are accelerating to beat reds, surely this is one of the next big things to clamp down on? A copper could sit at just about any traffic lighted junction and make a fortune, far more beneficial to society than chasing people doing 70 in an NSL.I was sat in traffic this morning at a red light and next to me was a Police car. People run red lights at this junction ALL the time.
Did a car run it this morning? Yes.
Did the Police do anything? No.
I was pretty shocked as it was so blatant. I'm assuming the Police officers were almost done with their shift as it was close to the station so they just ignored it.
That's good that you're willing to admit the mistake, we all make them from time to time.
I agree that there does seem to be more aggression on the roads these days. I think people on the whole have more stressful lives than perhaps those in previous eras - more pressure at work to be productive, and maybe more pressure to keep up with the Jones leading to increased anxiety, debt, etc. Not to mention the shear complexity of everything in modern life, so much detailed information to remember constantly...
Anyhow, I do think people need to find it in themselves to be more chilled especially when behind the wheel of a car. Saying that, driving in one of the few situations where you are effectively putting you life in the hands of other road users on a daily basis. It's easy to forget what a dangerous activity driving can be, and there has to be a real trust that other people will not mistakenly endanger you and your family...
I agree that there does seem to be more aggression on the roads these days. I think people on the whole have more stressful lives than perhaps those in previous eras - more pressure at work to be productive, and maybe more pressure to keep up with the Jones leading to increased anxiety, debt, etc. Not to mention the shear complexity of everything in modern life, so much detailed information to remember constantly...
Anyhow, I do think people need to find it in themselves to be more chilled especially when behind the wheel of a car. Saying that, driving in one of the few situations where you are effectively putting you life in the hands of other road users on a daily basis. It's easy to forget what a dangerous activity driving can be, and there has to be a real trust that other people will not mistakenly endanger you and your family...
I've driven the same 10 mile route to and from work for the last 18 months. 14 months of that in a black 100bp Fiesta, 4 months in a bright orange Focus ST. I drive them in exactly the same way. Calmly, sedately, usually under the speed limit in with the lorries. I'm in no real rush to get to work or get home. In the Fiesta I used the cruise control a lot, never more than 70mph and the Focus has its speed limiter set to the same 70mph. Its very rare that either car would see anything other than lane one.
In the Fiesta, I may as well have been invisible but in the Focus I just seem to be the biggest tw*t-magnet in the universe. Everyone has to overtake me, regardless of the conditions or situation. Everyone has to accelerate as hard as possible from traffic lights, away from junctions or off roundabouts. There has been a noticeable, marked step-change in the level of aggression and desire to prove something of which I'm not sure.
In the Fiesta, I may as well have been invisible but in the Focus I just seem to be the biggest tw*t-magnet in the universe. Everyone has to overtake me, regardless of the conditions or situation. Everyone has to accelerate as hard as possible from traffic lights, away from junctions or off roundabouts. There has been a noticeable, marked step-change in the level of aggression and desire to prove something of which I'm not sure.
Rawwr said:
Everyone has to accelerate as hard as possible from traffic lights, away from junctions or off roundabouts. There has been a noticeable, marked step-change in the level of aggression and desire to prove something of which I'm not sure.
Maybe some just like to feel the acceleration of said cars as its the only potential moment they might be able to unleash their cars, or they just dont like pootling up to the speed limit and would rather reach it sooner rather than later?Rawwr said:
I've driven the same 10 mile route to and from work for the last 18 months. 14 months of that in a black 100bp Fiesta, 4 months in a bright orange Focus ST. I drive them in exactly the same way. Calmly, sedately, usually under the speed limit in with the lorries. I'm in no real rush to get to work or get home. In the Fiesta I used the cruise control a lot, never more than 70mph and the Focus has its speed limiter set to the same 70mph. Its very rare that either car would see anything other than lane one.
In the Fiesta, I may as well have been invisible but in the Focus I just seem to be the biggest tw*t-magnet in the universe. Everyone has to overtake me, regardless of the conditions or situation. Everyone has to accelerate as hard as possible from traffic lights, away from junctions or off roundabouts. There has been a noticeable, marked step-change in the level of aggression and desire to prove something of which I'm not sure.
Interesting you have a Focus. I overtook a Focus ST last night, think it was yellow though, with a vanity plate on it. In the Fiesta, I may as well have been invisible but in the Focus I just seem to be the biggest tw*t-magnet in the universe. Everyone has to overtake me, regardless of the conditions or situation. Everyone has to accelerate as hard as possible from traffic lights, away from junctions or off roundabouts. There has been a noticeable, marked step-change in the level of aggression and desire to prove something of which I'm not sure.
He'd come past me at around 70 on a 50 limit dual carriageway (I'm not judging, I'm no angel), then when we got to a 60 mph NSL single carriageway with an overtaking lane on our side, I caught him up as he was doing around 50 ish.
I pulled past him, probably closer to 70 at a guess, and he went nuts.
Booted it to stay level with me and tried to stop me getting past. He bottled it as we approached a roundabout, swung across both lanes behind me with his full beams blazing, then drove up the left of me flashing the V's.
It was kind of both funny and tragic at the same time.
My car wouldn't stand a chance against his, it's only a hybrid after all, soI've no idea why being overtaken was such a big deal, other than his tiny little ego was affronted, but he wouldn't have known what my car was until I was past, and he'd started to match my speed before I went pastl.
lemmingjames said:
Rawwr said:
Everyone has to accelerate as hard as possible from traffic lights, away from junctions or off roundabouts. There has been a noticeable, marked step-change in the level of aggression and desire to prove something of which I'm not sure.
Maybe some just like to feel the acceleration of said cars as its the only potential moment they might be able to unleash their cars, or they just dont like pootling up to the speed limit and would rather reach it sooner rather than later?Super Slo Mo said:
Interesting you have a Focus. I overtook a Focus ST last night, think it was yellow though, with a vanity plate on it.
He'd come past me at around 70 on a 50 limit dual carriageway (I'm not judging, I'm no angel), then when we got to a 60 mph NSL single carriageway with an overtaking lane on our side, I caught him up as he was doing around 50 ish.
I pulled past him, probably closer to 70 at a guess, and he went nuts.
Booted it to stay level with me and tried to stop me getting past. He bottled it as we approached a roundabout, swung across both lanes behind me with his full beams blazing, then drove up the left of me flashing the V's.
It was kind of both funny and tragic at the same time.
My car wouldn't stand a chance against his, it's only a hybrid after all, soI've no idea why being overtaken was such a big deal, other than his tiny little ego was affronted, but he wouldn't have known what my car was until I was past, and he'd started to match my speed before I went pastl.
Some people just can't handle being overtaken. I'm sure we've all encountered those.He'd come past me at around 70 on a 50 limit dual carriageway (I'm not judging, I'm no angel), then when we got to a 60 mph NSL single carriageway with an overtaking lane on our side, I caught him up as he was doing around 50 ish.
I pulled past him, probably closer to 70 at a guess, and he went nuts.
Booted it to stay level with me and tried to stop me getting past. He bottled it as we approached a roundabout, swung across both lanes behind me with his full beams blazing, then drove up the left of me flashing the V's.
It was kind of both funny and tragic at the same time.
My car wouldn't stand a chance against his, it's only a hybrid after all, soI've no idea why being overtaken was such a big deal, other than his tiny little ego was affronted, but he wouldn't have known what my car was until I was past, and he'd started to match my speed before I went pastl.
sebulban said:
I am a submission grappler.... which translated to the street scenario is effectively like having a special power if you are untrained.
Cold said:
This is quickly slipping into 'roid rage. Just as aggressive, but a much more entertaining spectator sport.
Some of the macho man quotes on here have had me cracking up. All I can think of is Rex Kwando!!!
Driving standards in the UK can be abysmal, but getting angry is a complete waste of time, and downright unhealthy if you do a reasonable number of miles a year.
I took a conscious decision about 6 months ago to stop getting wound up by driving bellendry. Ease the stereo up a notch, take a deep breath and move on. Taking the emotion and anger out of it, and assuming there's no accident as a result, other people's bad driving actually doesn't make any material difference to anyone. The inconvenience is not measurable.
It is honestly incredible what a difference it makes. Oh, as does restricting use of the horn to its intended purpose ("I am here!")
It's not always easy, but it does work.
I took a conscious decision about 6 months ago to stop getting wound up by driving bellendry. Ease the stereo up a notch, take a deep breath and move on. Taking the emotion and anger out of it, and assuming there's no accident as a result, other people's bad driving actually doesn't make any material difference to anyone. The inconvenience is not measurable.
It is honestly incredible what a difference it makes. Oh, as does restricting use of the horn to its intended purpose ("I am here!")
It's not always easy, but it does work.
Toyoda said:
Some of the macho man quotes on here have had me cracking up. All I can think of is Rex Kwando!!!
Some people wear driving gloves for their motoring journey, I insist on wearing USA flag trousers and a bandana, you think anybody wants to get into a road rage altercation with me whilst I'm wearing these bad boys? forget about it!Ive gotten out the car a few times in recent months, teaching the wifey how to drive as extra to her lessons.
Taking her out has gotten her through her test with one bad mark for parking so thats not bad.
The car she was driving was displaying 'L's. It had 4 in place 2 on the back and two on the front. Yes whilst it is annoying when someone stalls, especially a learner don't sit there with your hand on the horn and edging up to the arse end of the car. One particular incident I got out and went up to the car and asked if he'd ever learnt to drive... turned out not he didn't have a car license he exclaimed, I think telling me this I would presume he's big and hard - anyway I just phoned the police and he he sped off.
I think the problem is everyone seems to be in a rush, some people just need to slow down and chill. If your in that much of a rush to get to a destination then set off in good time.
Taking her out has gotten her through her test with one bad mark for parking so thats not bad.
The car she was driving was displaying 'L's. It had 4 in place 2 on the back and two on the front. Yes whilst it is annoying when someone stalls, especially a learner don't sit there with your hand on the horn and edging up to the arse end of the car. One particular incident I got out and went up to the car and asked if he'd ever learnt to drive... turned out not he didn't have a car license he exclaimed, I think telling me this I would presume he's big and hard - anyway I just phoned the police and he he sped off.
I think the problem is everyone seems to be in a rush, some people just need to slow down and chill. If your in that much of a rush to get to a destination then set off in good time.
Its not so much the aggressive drivers that bother me; its the slow, unconfident drivers that do. I was driving home from work the other night, 50mph road, wide open, straight as an arrow, guy in front of me is doing 35, so I easily overtake him, use my indicators properly, did not cut him off or anything, he gets upset and starts flashing high lights at me and waving his fist like an idiot.
Also it really annoys me when somebody is so timid they refuse to go over 35 regardless of the speed limit (usually in 50mpg or NSL areas), yet will not pull over in a layby to allow the queue of 10 cars behind them to pass.
Seriously, if you are afraid to drive over 35mph maybe you should re-evaluate driving and take the bus.
Also it really annoys me when somebody is so timid they refuse to go over 35 regardless of the speed limit (usually in 50mpg or NSL areas), yet will not pull over in a layby to allow the queue of 10 cars behind them to pass.
Seriously, if you are afraid to drive over 35mph maybe you should re-evaluate driving and take the bus.
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