Aggression on the Roads...
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When I was a trainee in the United States Air Force, I befriended my superior officer, Charlie Nash and asked him to teach me in his unique form of fighting, which Charlie agreed to do. I learned the style, but my hot temper caused me to lack proficiency in the moves.
I was sent by the United States Air Force to look for my senior teammate and best friend Charlie, who has gone missing during a secret investigation. My search eventually leads me to the Interpol investigator Chun-Li, who warns me not to follow Charlie due to the danger involved. I demonstrated my fighting ability, and assured Chun-Li that I will not let my friend come to harm. I eventually found him in the Shadaloo base in Thailand and informed Charlie that we do not need to be there any longer, as an aerial bombardment will begin in an hour. Charlie, however, insists that Shadaloo leader M. Bison will escape, and we came to blows. The sinister and powerful M. Bison appeared and attacked the two of us but is no match for our combined prowess. He is forced to retreat, calling a gunship to keep them pinned down and cover his escape.
We gave chase, and follow him into the base, deciding that M. Bison's source of power, the Psycho Drive must be destroyed. Chun-Li then appears and informs us that the bombardment has been called off, surmising that Bison has somehow used his influence. She goes on to tell us that she has set explosives in an attempt to destroy the base, but is unsure if they'll be enough. As she rushes to escape, Charlie and I decide to set explosives around the Psycho Drive to ensure that if nothing else, it at least will be destroyed.
As we set our charges, M. Bison fought with Ryu and his allies in an epic battle. In the end, Ryu defeated him, destroying his body temporarily and forcing M. Bison to regenerate in the Psycho Drive. Bison successfully regenerated his body then Charlie convinces me to escape while he holds Bison off, and I escaped right before the base explodes, with Charlie and Bison presumably caught in the blast. Chun-Li and Ryu eventually find me standing on a mountain, and Chun-Li says that Charlie may perhaps be alive somewhere, just as she believes that her father may be. I agree, and say that I will continue to believe in Charlie.
I then beat up loads of people in various streets all around the world during the mid-nineties to international acclaim.
I was sent by the United States Air Force to look for my senior teammate and best friend Charlie, who has gone missing during a secret investigation. My search eventually leads me to the Interpol investigator Chun-Li, who warns me not to follow Charlie due to the danger involved. I demonstrated my fighting ability, and assured Chun-Li that I will not let my friend come to harm. I eventually found him in the Shadaloo base in Thailand and informed Charlie that we do not need to be there any longer, as an aerial bombardment will begin in an hour. Charlie, however, insists that Shadaloo leader M. Bison will escape, and we came to blows. The sinister and powerful M. Bison appeared and attacked the two of us but is no match for our combined prowess. He is forced to retreat, calling a gunship to keep them pinned down and cover his escape.
We gave chase, and follow him into the base, deciding that M. Bison's source of power, the Psycho Drive must be destroyed. Chun-Li then appears and informs us that the bombardment has been called off, surmising that Bison has somehow used his influence. She goes on to tell us that she has set explosives in an attempt to destroy the base, but is unsure if they'll be enough. As she rushes to escape, Charlie and I decide to set explosives around the Psycho Drive to ensure that if nothing else, it at least will be destroyed.
As we set our charges, M. Bison fought with Ryu and his allies in an epic battle. In the end, Ryu defeated him, destroying his body temporarily and forcing M. Bison to regenerate in the Psycho Drive. Bison successfully regenerated his body then Charlie convinces me to escape while he holds Bison off, and I escaped right before the base explodes, with Charlie and Bison presumably caught in the blast. Chun-Li and Ryu eventually find me standing on a mountain, and Chun-Li says that Charlie may perhaps be alive somewhere, just as she believes that her father may be. I agree, and say that I will continue to believe in Charlie.
I then beat up loads of people in various streets all around the world during the mid-nineties to international acclaim.
Rawwr said:
When I was a trainee in the United States Air Force, I befriended my superior officer, Charlie Nash and asked him to teach me in his unique form of fighting, which Charlie agreed to do. I learned the style, but my hot temper caused me to lack proficiency in the moves.
I was sent by the United States Air Force to look for my senior teammate and best friend Charlie, who has gone missing during a secret investigation. My search eventually leads me to the Interpol investigator Chun-Li, who warns me not to follow Charlie due to the danger involved. I demonstrated my fighting ability, and assured Chun-Li that I will not let my friend come to harm. I eventually found him in the Shadaloo base in Thailand and informed Charlie that we do not need to be there any longer, as an aerial bombardment will begin in an hour. Charlie, however, insists that Shadaloo leader M. Bison will escape, and we came to blows. The sinister and powerful M. Bison appeared and attacked the two of us but is no match for our combined prowess. He is forced to retreat, calling a gunship to keep them pinned down and cover his escape.
We gave chase, and follow him into the base, deciding that M. Bison's source of power, the Psycho Drive must be destroyed. Chun-Li then appears and informs us that the bombardment has been called off, surmising that Bison has somehow used his influence. She goes on to tell us that she has set explosives in an attempt to destroy the base, but is unsure if they'll be enough. As she rushes to escape, Charlie and I decide to set explosives around the Psycho Drive to ensure that if nothing else, it at least will be destroyed.
As we set our charges, M. Bison fought with Ryu and his allies in an epic battle. In the end, Ryu defeated him, destroying his body temporarily and forcing M. Bison to regenerate in the Psycho Drive. Bison successfully regenerated his body then Charlie convinces me to escape while he holds Bison off, and I escaped right before the base explodes, with Charlie and Bison presumably caught in the blast. Chun-Li and Ryu eventually find me standing on a mountain, and Chun-Li says that Charlie may perhaps be alive somewhere, just as she believes that her father may be. I agree, and say that I will continue to believe in Charlie.
I then beat up loads of people in various streets all around the world during the mid-nineties to international acclaim.
The fact you took the time out to write that nonsense says more about you than anyone else on here.I was sent by the United States Air Force to look for my senior teammate and best friend Charlie, who has gone missing during a secret investigation. My search eventually leads me to the Interpol investigator Chun-Li, who warns me not to follow Charlie due to the danger involved. I demonstrated my fighting ability, and assured Chun-Li that I will not let my friend come to harm. I eventually found him in the Shadaloo base in Thailand and informed Charlie that we do not need to be there any longer, as an aerial bombardment will begin in an hour. Charlie, however, insists that Shadaloo leader M. Bison will escape, and we came to blows. The sinister and powerful M. Bison appeared and attacked the two of us but is no match for our combined prowess. He is forced to retreat, calling a gunship to keep them pinned down and cover his escape.
We gave chase, and follow him into the base, deciding that M. Bison's source of power, the Psycho Drive must be destroyed. Chun-Li then appears and informs us that the bombardment has been called off, surmising that Bison has somehow used his influence. She goes on to tell us that she has set explosives in an attempt to destroy the base, but is unsure if they'll be enough. As she rushes to escape, Charlie and I decide to set explosives around the Psycho Drive to ensure that if nothing else, it at least will be destroyed.
As we set our charges, M. Bison fought with Ryu and his allies in an epic battle. In the end, Ryu defeated him, destroying his body temporarily and forcing M. Bison to regenerate in the Psycho Drive. Bison successfully regenerated his body then Charlie convinces me to escape while he holds Bison off, and I escaped right before the base explodes, with Charlie and Bison presumably caught in the blast. Chun-Li and Ryu eventually find me standing on a mountain, and Chun-Li says that Charlie may perhaps be alive somewhere, just as she believes that her father may be. I agree, and say that I will continue to believe in Charlie.
I then beat up loads of people in various streets all around the world during the mid-nineties to international acclaim.
But LOL all the same.
Europa1 said:
Yep, sums it up. A group of people who are in fact civilians referring to other civilians as civilians, coupled with some jargon like "submission grappling" and equating it to having a special power, is not the way to win people over to your point of view.
I don't need to win you over. You're ignorant. You pick out random things and put them together and think you have made some poignant comment.
People who have training in any field over anyone "untrained" MAY AS WELL have a super power. It was a throw away comment. Like an untrained person playing someone at snooker who is good..... its how it will feel.
Im done with commenting in here though as no one is adding anything new. I commented on aggression on the road and added in some of my own experiences from a position of being a professional, national level, MMA competitor. Not to lord anything up - I mean if I am discussing a subject and somewhat of an expert came in I would be all up for hearing his opinion and learning rather than mocking him for his language or trying to pick fault. Ive heard the term civilian used plenty in a non-military context - it means non-combatant amongst other things.
Ultimately though I hope no one on here gets involved in any incidents on the road and has a safe Christmas!
sebulban said:
julian64 said:
It is my impression that in everyone who does martial arts, there is a little Steven Seagal voice buried deep. Its the voice of self confidence.
This is a voice which says 'I don't attack people because I'm trained, but I'm happy in the knowledge that if I did they'd crumble' just like they do in Seagal movies.
This isn't reality, its self confidence. Its how you make soldiers go into war. Its psychology 101. Its also a sham.
What is a sham? That someone who dedicates themselves to a craft may improve. Thats false logic or just dumb.This is a voice which says 'I don't attack people because I'm trained, but I'm happy in the knowledge that if I did they'd crumble' just like they do in Seagal movies.
This isn't reality, its self confidence. Its how you make soldiers go into war. Its psychology 101. Its also a sham.
A guy starts at football.... everyone else is decent. He is getting rings ran around him. Years later he is the one running rings round people who show up. The other guys have progressed on.
It just happens thats in martial arts / MMA / boxing the rings are people getting smashed!
Now when doing statistics you always get idiots who aren't very good and think they have some magical power. I saw a video shared on FB yesterday of some guy in the States showing some shambolic methods that like traditional martial arts just aren't functional on the streets. But thats a tiny sample group!
The sham is that every martial arts protagonist who post are the same. They all say we would never use this unless cornered, run first ......
and then you wait for the Steven Seagal post
....but if we were cornered we would kick arse.
and it makes you cringe
The truth is that I worked in casualty for nearly four years. In all that time I never saw a bunch of guys coming in saying we were all beaten up by a guy with martial arts training. They just all came in, martial arts trained as well, all with similar injuries of a general street fight nature either bottled, or kicked. It didn't seem to make any difference. There is no winning in a street fight. There is no one who stands out as having superior skills, or 'super powers' as you call them. Its a fantasy.
I'm not having a downer on martial arts, I think its is a good pastime, it allows to vent aggression, its good physical exercise and there is a good degree of self discipline taught. its just that it doesn't translate to being safer. If anything the little seagal voice in your brain that it engenders is going to get you into trouble. Its a fox and hare parable gone wrong.
sebulban said:
I don't need to win you over. You're ignorant.
You pick out random things and put them together and think you have made some poignant comment.
People who have training in any field over anyone "untrained" MAY AS WELL have a super power. It was a throw away comment. Like an untrained person playing someone at snooker who is good..... its how it will feel.
Im done with commenting in here though as no one is adding anything new. I commented on aggression on the road and added in some of my own experiences from a position of being a professional, national level, MMA competitor. Not to lord anything up - I mean if I am discussing a subject and somewhat of an expert came in I would be all up for hearing his opinion and learning rather than mocking him for his language or trying to pick fault. Ive heard the term civilian used plenty in a non-military context - it means non-combatant amongst other things.
Ultimately though I hope no one on here gets involved in any incidents on the road and has a safe Christmas!
The problem is you're not listening to anyone!! You're too self absorbed in your kung fu super powers to realise how cringey you sound!!You pick out random things and put them together and think you have made some poignant comment.
People who have training in any field over anyone "untrained" MAY AS WELL have a super power. It was a throw away comment. Like an untrained person playing someone at snooker who is good..... its how it will feel.
Im done with commenting in here though as no one is adding anything new. I commented on aggression on the road and added in some of my own experiences from a position of being a professional, national level, MMA competitor. Not to lord anything up - I mean if I am discussing a subject and somewhat of an expert came in I would be all up for hearing his opinion and learning rather than mocking him for his language or trying to pick fault. Ive heard the term civilian used plenty in a non-military context - it means non-combatant amongst other things.
Ultimately though I hope no one on here gets involved in any incidents on the road and has a safe Christmas!
I'm not doubting that you're proper 'ard, but imagine how much of a tosser Hamilton would look if he came on PH and started commenting on a thread about track days using all these gimp phrases about 'smashing everyone' and using his racing 'super powers' to overtake everyone.
chrisb92 said:
The problem is you're not listening to anyone!! You're too self absorbed in your kung fu super powers to realise how cringey you sound!!
I'm not doubting that you're proper 'ard, but imagine how much of a tosser Hamilton would look if he came on PH and started commenting on a thread about track days using all these gimp phrases about 'smashing everyone' and using his racing 'super powers' to overtake everyone.
Self absorbed and tosser. Nice.I'm not doubting that you're proper 'ard, but imagine how much of a tosser Hamilton would look if he came on PH and started commenting on a thread about track days using all these gimp phrases about 'smashing everyone' and using his racing 'super powers' to overtake everyone.
I think your reading comprehension needs a lot of work.
If you actually do read back to the start of thread when I began posting you will see how it went. Which isnt the straw man version events you/others seem to think.
And you don't have the ability it seems to comprehend what is being said. If Lewis Hamilton DID post on a thread and some questioned his driving ability and he schooled them then that would seem pretty normal to me.
julian64 said:
Martial arts is a good past time for self discipline, and exercise. But its a pastime, nothing more.
The sham is that every martial arts protagonist who post are the same. They all say we would never use this unless cornered, run first ......
and then you wait for the Steven Seagal post
....but if we were cornered we would kick arse.
and it makes you cringe
The truth is that I worked in casualty for nearly four years. In all that time I never saw a bunch of guys coming in saying we were all beaten up by a guy with martial arts training. They just all came in, martial arts trained as well, all with similar injuries of a general street fight nature either bottled, or kicked. It didn't seem to make any difference. There is no winning in a street fight. There is no one who stands out as having superior skills, or 'super powers' as you call them. Its a fantasy.
I'm not having a downer on martial arts, I think its is a good pastime, it allows to vent aggression, its good physical exercise and there is a good degree of self discipline taught. its just that it doesn't translate to being safer. If anything the little seagal voice in your brain that it engenders is going to get you into trouble. Its a fox and hare parable gone wrong.
You are just wrong. The sham is that every martial arts protagonist who post are the same. They all say we would never use this unless cornered, run first ......
and then you wait for the Steven Seagal post
....but if we were cornered we would kick arse.
and it makes you cringe
The truth is that I worked in casualty for nearly four years. In all that time I never saw a bunch of guys coming in saying we were all beaten up by a guy with martial arts training. They just all came in, martial arts trained as well, all with similar injuries of a general street fight nature either bottled, or kicked. It didn't seem to make any difference. There is no winning in a street fight. There is no one who stands out as having superior skills, or 'super powers' as you call them. Its a fantasy.
I'm not having a downer on martial arts, I think its is a good pastime, it allows to vent aggression, its good physical exercise and there is a good degree of self discipline taught. its just that it doesn't translate to being safer. If anything the little seagal voice in your brain that it engenders is going to get you into trouble. Its a fox and hare parable gone wrong.
People do have superior skills. It does translate to being safer.
And LOL at the total straw man of pretty much your whole point.
There is no little voice - I am a professional athlete who has little to no interest in bar brawls or road rage. But on the few occasions I have had to defend myself it has 100% helped.
sebulban said:
People who have training in any field over anyone "untrained" MAY AS WELL have a super power. It was a throw away comment. Like an untrained person playing someone at snooker who is good..... its how it will feel.
The problem is that if you repeatedly have violent or potentially violent confrontations eventually one of two situations will arise. The first is that you will hurt someone badly, circumstances will conspire against you and you'll end up with a serious criminal conviction. The second possibility, to follow your sports analogy, is that you'll encounter someone who turns out to playing an entirely different game and you end up stabbed. Edited by hairykrishna on Wednesday 7th December 13:41
Boxing seems to be the only one I would count on haha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOoCQ8sr85g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEjflWAdbiM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOoCQ8sr85g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEjflWAdbiM
hairykrishna said:
The problem is that if you repeatedly have violent or potentially violent confrontations eventually one of two situations will arise. The first is that you will hurt someone badly, circumstances will conspire against you and you'll end up with a serious criminal conviction. The second possibility, to follow your sports analogy, is that you'll encounter someone who turns out to playing an entirely different game and you end up stabbed.
I agree.Edited by hairykrishna on Wednesday 7th December 13:41
But where did I advocate repeatedly getting involved in violent confrontations?
I posted within a thread about aggression on the road. And over the course of the thread have laid out the errors these generic people make when threatening random people. My sport got questions so I threw out some examples.
I have gone 36 years without getting a criminal conviction or being stabbed though.
Slow said:
Boxing seems to be the only one I would count on haha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOoCQ8sr85g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEjflWAdbiM
Awesome I have seen them both.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOoCQ8sr85g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEjflWAdbiM
They may as well have special powers eh....
sebulban said:
But where did I advocate repeatedly getting involved in violent confrontations?
Note that I also said 'potentially violent'.sebulban said:
I consider it at times my civic duty to deal with these morons. Im not Batman and I could easily walk away. But I then think what if this was just a nice old man out with his grandkids - any sign of weakness these bullies see it as encouragement and the ante goes up and someone ends up in hospital or dead. It happens everyday. So if by just fronting up (not even doing anything violent) I can prevent this happening once, I am cool with that.
To me this post suggests that you feel it is somehow your civic duty to escalate aggressive confrontations. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff