Aggression on the Roads...
Discussion
deevlash2 said:
McDojo Karate places from the 70's teaching useless hokum and pointless dance moves to gullible idiots have a lot to answer for when it comes to peoples perceptions of having a scrap.
Go on then, I'll bite. What 'useless dance moves' are you referring to? Forms such as Naihanchi Cho Dan?To keep it on topic, yes, aggression on the roads is worse now.
Mainly due to;
Bad road design
Overloaded road network
sebulban said:
Antony Moxey said:
Sometimes, some day and some people is irrelevant baseless logic too. I've been on the end of accidents caused by idiots but never on the end of a violent confrontation. Guess I'm just luckier then you?
How is that baseless logic.... Im saying "road rage" incidents happen ALL the time. Isnt the title of this thread about aggression on the road.... and various people have posted about "incidents."When have I been unlucky?
So you have not had anyone threaten you with violence. Well done. You win? You are better than anyone else who faced that situation?
Not sure I win anything though, other than the freedom to carry on about my normal business, nor that I'm better than anyone, other than if someone who's faced the same situations as me felt the need to resort to violence when I haven't then perhaps that's a poor show on their part.
Antony Moxey said:
It's baseless because it's the same argument you used against me: 'some', 'sometimes' etc. Besides, road rage doesn't have to end in violent confrontation - you've been unlucky in that you've already said previously you've had to do your 'civic duty', fortunately for me I never have, neither have I ever been threatened so in that respect I'd say yes it is well done me.
Not sure I win anything though, other than the freedom to carry on about my normal business, nor that I'm better than anyone, other than if someone who's faced the same situations as me felt the need to resort to violence when I haven't then perhaps that's a poor show on their part.
Someone else demonstrating poor reading comprehension & logic. Not sure I win anything though, other than the freedom to carry on about my normal business, nor that I'm better than anyone, other than if someone who's faced the same situations as me felt the need to resort to violence when I haven't then perhaps that's a poor show on their part.
When you say "I reckon" and make sweeping statements with zero evidence using terms like "99%" - thats baseless and incorrect. You made the claim - the burden of proof is on you.
I was being generic about the multiple road rage incidents on the road everyday.... and yes some of them are violent.
I was attacked in Bristol when I thought I was exchanging insurance details after a guy clipped my car many years back and in a second incident I tried to ignore a group of guys in a van after they cut ME off exiting the M4 by Chippenham again many years back - unfortunately I got caught in rush hour traffic and one of the guys got out of the van and ran down and started banging on my window. For me - both unavoidable scenarios especially the first one. Thats 2 in 20+ years..... granted more than you (and everyone you know and people on here) but no doubt less than a lot of people.
I teach children. Adults too & women. A general message is there should never be a need to resort to violence. But sometimes you don't get the option. Now in a lot of peoples romantic view of the world there aren't any bad people & a lot of the fools on here seem to think having training wont help. I can assure them it does and has. Ultimately I would rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6. Strange how in both of the above incidents no one shot me or stabbed me neither was I even arrested. I credit myself with enough intelligence and restraint that I don't need to kick off at every sign of confrontation.
We're going round in circles. You use words like 'some' and 'sometimes' yet it's only me who's baseless. That's unimportant though, the one fact I'm happy with is that I've never had to resort to violence when on the road, and have never been threatened to the extent I felt in danger either. And although I've never had training either, I don't consider myself foolish for not having done so.
Lucky me or stupid me? It doesn't matter, it's not a competition.
Lucky me or stupid me? It doesn't matter, it's not a competition.
Antony Moxey said:
We're going round in circles. You use words like 'some' and 'sometimes' yet it's only me who's baseless. That's unimportant though, the one fact I'm happy with is that I've never had to resort to violence when on the road, and have never been threatened to the extent I felt in danger either. And although I've never had training either, I don't consider myself foolish for not having done so.
Lucky me or stupid me? It doesn't matter, it's not a competition.
Well Ive tried to demonstrate to help you understand - but agreed going in circles. Lucky me or stupid me? It doesn't matter, it's not a competition.
Who said anyone was foolish for not having training? Not another straw man for me to bash down......
The OP mentioned increase in aggression on the road, others agreed. I did too. I put what I thought was a general comment about people without the necessary training resorting to violence and not how I don't understand it. Used a couple of "jargon" terms. And it opened up a whole can of worms - when away from PH turds it would have been a sensible conversation. Rather than mocking martial arts and ridiculous claims.
That you haven't seen any trouble is great and I hope you go your whole life like that.
Rawwr said:
That's a bit rude.
He does that. Accuses others of not reading or comprehending yet does the same himself. Same with citing straw men and baseless arguments yet continues to use his own straw men and baseless arguments. Some people just love to argue for the sake of it rather than, as they claim, discussing a topic. Some people get in fights, others don't.Funny old world...
Antony Moxey said:
He does that. Accuses others of not reading or comprehending yet does the same himself. Same with citing straw men and baseless arguments yet continues to use his own straw men and baseless arguments. Some people just love to argue for the sake of it rather than, as they claim, discussing a topic. Some people get in fights, others don't.
Funny old world...
If you read back over the last however many pages I have been pleasant for a long time .... even when others were "attacking" me for my points or terminology.Funny old world...
What straw man have I made?
Where is your evidence to support your "99% of people?"
I have tried over and over to have a civilised discussion. But when in Rome eh.....
Antony Moxey said:
The is no evidence, that's why I said 'I reckon'. The only time I've presented anything as fact is when it was a fact, for instance when I said I'd never been a victim of road rage violence. Anyway, about this reading and comprehension in this funny old world of ours...;-)
No evidence...... figures. Section 8 said:
If you drive a shed load of miles a year you would end up having a massive heart attack if you let every numpty get under your skin. I have had a few near misses today alone as i spend the majority of my day in Manchester/Birmingham/Leicester city centres in a lgv. If i screw up i just hold my hand out/ click hazards and offer a gesture of appology and if someone screams and rants so be it. Likewise if someone drops a b
k i have to try and let it go and accept they are as human as i am.
As someone who is currently in anger managment therapy i have had to adapt this passive attitude as i was heading towards being that bellend who went postal on that lorry with a shovel. That said i have got zero tollerance for people on the fking phone while at the wheel like the complete and utter gimp who was sat at 35 in the outside lane of a dual carriageway weaving about like he was pissed texting his little heart out with headphones on while i was sat behind flashing and beeping with 10-15 cars up my arse end. This went on for over half a mile. Did i go apest? No i got the lot on dashcam and when he finally looked up and saw me and moved over still texting i smiled over and pointed to the cam in the cab. Karma!!
Your smugness leaps off the page.k i have to try and let it go and accept they are as human as i am.As someone who is currently in anger managment therapy i have had to adapt this passive attitude as i was heading towards being that bellend who went postal on that lorry with a shovel. That said i have got zero tollerance for people on the fking phone while at the wheel like the complete and utter gimp who was sat at 35 in the outside lane of a dual carriageway weaving about like he was pissed texting his little heart out with headphones on while i was sat behind flashing and beeping with 10-15 cars up my arse end. This went on for over half a mile. Did i go apes
t? No i got the lot on dashcam and when he finally looked up and saw me and moved over still texting i smiled over and pointed to the cam in the cab. Karma!!Given that the most unpleasant tasteless scary trends cross the Atlantic eventually I assume that the next driver I unintentionally ps off may be mentally disturbed or just angry with the world & is carrying a gun with every intention of using it. An overreaction maybe, but I prophesise that very soon we will reflecting on how many drivers get shot in road rage incidents.
In an era before males were so insecure & tiresomely competitive & women bitter & resentful my old dad advised 'Discretion is the better part of valour'. How true that turned out to be. Any brainless twit can raise his fist & open his/her big gob but it takes a giant to rise above it all & move on.
s off may be mentally disturbed or just angry with the world & is carrying a gun with every intention of using it. An overreaction maybe, but I prophesise that very soon we will reflecting on how many drivers get shot in road rage incidents. In an era before males were so insecure & tiresomely competitive & women bitter & resentful my old dad advised 'Discretion is the better part of valour'. How true that turned out to be. Any brainless twit can raise his fist & open his/her big gob but it takes a giant to rise above it all & move on.
Antony Moxey said:
Of course it figures, I never said otherwise nor tried to imply otherwise either.
"I reckon 99% of the population do quite easily 99% of the time...."If you are going to open with something like that.... expect to be questioned. Especially when you are attempting to rubbish someone else!
But I'm not attempting to rubbish anyone, it's just what I think might be the case. That's why I said 'I reckon', it means that that's my opinion, not that it's a cold hard fact. If I had said that you were wrong and that it was the case then knock yourself out, challenge away but I didn't, I offered it as a thought not a truth.
That's why there's no evidence, nor will I ever need to produce any nor prove anything. But you carry on arguing anyway, I'm always happy to be put firmly in my place by those so obviously superior to anything I could ever aspire to.
That's why there's no evidence, nor will I ever need to produce any nor prove anything. But you carry on arguing anyway, I'm always happy to be put firmly in my place by those so obviously superior to anything I could ever aspire to.
Antony Moxey said:
But I'm not attempting to rubbish anyone, it's just what I think might be the case. That's why I said 'I reckon', it means that that's my opinion, not that it's a cold hard fact. If I had said that you were wrong and that it was the case then knock yourself out, challenge away but I didn't, I offered it as a thought not a truth.
That's why there's no evidence, nor will I ever need to produce any nor prove anything. But you carry on arguing anyway, I'm always happy to be put firmly in my place by those so obviously superior to anything I could ever aspire to.
Ok well a small piece of advice would be don't use the term 99% unless you are sure.... or you look silly.That's why there's no evidence, nor will I ever need to produce any nor prove anything. But you carry on arguing anyway, I'm always happy to be put firmly in my place by those so obviously superior to anything I could ever aspire to.
Im not arguing - there is no argument to be had when you have an opinion that something is 99% when it is clearly not.
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