Aggression on the Roads...
Discussion
There has always been knobheads, always will be.
Last night driving south on the M3 whilst overtaking in the outside land, traffic was a bit bunched up. Some clown in an old A4, blue sidelights to make it worse, starts flashing and tailgating. I'm all for lane disipline and all but I had no where to go, traffic in front and to the left, a barrier on the right.
I moved over when I could and he went on to abuse the guy in front. People just need to chill out!
Last night driving south on the M3 whilst overtaking in the outside land, traffic was a bit bunched up. Some clown in an old A4, blue sidelights to make it worse, starts flashing and tailgating. I'm all for lane disipline and all but I had no where to go, traffic in front and to the left, a barrier on the right.
I moved over when I could and he went on to abuse the guy in front. People just need to chill out!
SidewaysSi said:
Audemars said:
The reason why people lose it is because your driving mistakes whether genuine or not can kill. Cutting people up or similar can lead to fatal consequences. Accidentally cutting someone up (or worse forcing them off the road because you didnt see them in your blindspot) is not too different to throwing a knife at them but marginally missing. There are plenty of videos showing how the slightest contact between moving vehicles can be devastating.
Rather than moan at aggressive people jusr drive better.
That's a bunch of ballsRather than moan at aggressive people jusr drive better.
Yes, a lot of people seem to be permanently angry - too many insecure Alpha males (and young women more and more) who have to act hard online and behind the wheel of a car. We've also got more a mix of driving styles from around the world in the UK now and some of it is more aggressive.
Plus, everyone seems to be in a rush and patience has gone out of the window.
Plus, everyone seems to be in a rush and patience has gone out of the window.
I remember a cock up I made a couple of years ago, can't recall the details but it was my fault and I ended up behind a totally enraged woman driver. I apologized, held my hands up but she was having none of it and I believe actually frothing at the mouth right up until she entered a roundabout causing the a car already on the roundabout to emergency stop to avoid her.
turbobloke said:
SidewaysSi said:
Audemars said:
The reason why people lose it is because your driving mistakes whether genuine or not can kill. Cutting people up or similar can lead to fatal consequences. Accidentally cutting someone up (or worse forcing them off the road because you didnt see them in your blindspot) is not too different to throwing a knife at them but marginally missing. There are plenty of videos showing how the slightest contact between moving vehicles can be devastating.
Rather than moan at aggressive people jusr drive better.
That's a bunch of ballsRather than moan at aggressive people jusr drive better.
It pisses me off when people say things like "well, you wouldn't act like that as a pedestrian and someone cuts you up or bumps into you, would you?". Of course not, because a simple apology is quite easy to make when face-to-face and not only that, if you do bump into someone an apology is all it takes to sort it out.
Contrast that with a driver making "a tiny mistake" that results in a collision. At the very least your car is now damaged which will result in a load of ballache to get sorted. Going through insurance, having it sat at the garage awaiting assessment/repair, increased insurance etc etc all the way through to being injured.
A "slight lapse of concentration" when driving can result in consequences far out of proportion to the inital mistake.
So yes, when some a
hole doesn't acknowledge what they've just done, it is slightly annoying. 
Edited by Centurion07 on Sunday 4th December 11:22
I have been thinking the same recently, people do seem to be more aggressive when behind the wheel although when not they can be completely different people who shy away from confrontation.
I do around 40k miles a year and some of the stuff I've witnessed over such minor infractions just beggars belief. A few weeks ago driving through Bradford I was stopped at a set of lights when next to me pulled a primer grey Audi RS3 that sounded quite nice so I looked over approvingly until I saw the tyres, they had white lettering on painted quite big which read "fk YOU ALL" on seeing this I burst out laughing.
The driver of the Audi didn't take my laughing nicely and promptly started hurling abuse at me something along the lines of "you'll get banged around here" I wound my window down and gave my standard one word response "charming" before cheerfully pulling away. He followed me for around 2 miles flashing and swerving in and out like he was going to overtake with lots of hand gestures then pulled off into a side street.
I think the aggression is area specific, I never have any problems driving around some parts of Oxfordshire or Surrey. Driving around the North West though is inherently dangerous.
I do around 40k miles a year and some of the stuff I've witnessed over such minor infractions just beggars belief. A few weeks ago driving through Bradford I was stopped at a set of lights when next to me pulled a primer grey Audi RS3 that sounded quite nice so I looked over approvingly until I saw the tyres, they had white lettering on painted quite big which read "f
k YOU ALL" on seeing this I burst out laughing. The driver of the Audi didn't take my laughing nicely and promptly started hurling abuse at me something along the lines of "you'll get banged around here" I wound my window down and gave my standard one word response "charming" before cheerfully pulling away. He followed me for around 2 miles flashing and swerving in and out like he was going to overtake with lots of hand gestures then pulled off into a side street.
I think the aggression is area specific, I never have any problems driving around some parts of Oxfordshire or Surrey. Driving around the North West though is inherently dangerous.
I've spent the past year as a taxi driver here in Cornwall and have certainly noticed more aggression than I recall seeing before. The 'merge in turn' signs after traffic lights, roundabouts etc, appear to be the worst spots in Truro and 'disabled parking bays' are another. If merging myself, I try and hang back a little rather than trying to push in at the head of the queue, in an effort to try and not antagonise anyone who might feel they are losing out in some way. Challenging people who park (in blue bays) without a permit is a sure fired way of getting either abuse, into a row or both. It's as if they feel disability parking is unfair in some way?
nickfrog said:
I'm not being funny but I have detected more aggressive behaviour since the Brexit vote, it's like if the angry have been vindicated. I am probably imagining it though !
Hahaha have you really. So bs.I spend a lot of time driving. Motorcycle and car.
Sometimes I make mistakes and you have to swallow your pride and apologise.
In the reverse when you are wronged I just vent to myself in the car and carry on.
Only twice have i ever gotten proper angry.
1 on my bike a van at a roundabout (big wide open roundabout taken approx 30-40l made direct eye contact as thats what I look for and pulled out infront of me. No indication of apology or anything.
If you ride bikes you soon learn you cant brake and steer (much) hence the danger.
Traffic lights 1000yrds up the road I did pull up next to him and give him the big mouth.
Another time I was in my car in traffic went across a roundabout. Car didnt see me scuffed across my front end.
Gave me fake insurance details, I did mug her off quite a lot and in the end the damage I machine polished 99% of it out. Let it go fairly quickly.
A couple of months back I was heading home and stopped where the 2nd lane filters down into 1. Rather than overtake anyone, I stopped and joined the queue, slightly angled to the left so my intention to join the inside lane was crystal clear. Cue Mr white van man who deliberately and slowly positioned his van in an effort to stop me joining the inside lane. Why? I have no idea? Maybe he thought my driving a red BMW meant I was deserving of his exercising his manliness? Anyway, I could see in the rear view mirror that he was going crazy and hear him shouting all manner of insults. I did what anyone should do in situations like this, I blew him a kiss. Talk about pouring petrol on a flame! He went even more crazy and started trying to pass me! I mistook this as flirting and after we made eye contact, I blew him another. I couldn't quite make out what it was he was shouting so I just looked coy and fluttered my eyelids.
There's just no point in going all he-man. If another driver wants to feel they have won somehow, just let them and laugh it off. Life is way too short to get into potentially dangerous situations over who has priority at a junction or something like that.
There's just no point in going all he-man. If another driver wants to feel they have won somehow, just let them and laugh it off. Life is way too short to get into potentially dangerous situations over who has priority at a junction or something like that.
e21Mark said:
Life is way too short to get into potentially dangerous situations...
e21Mark said:
I did what anyone should do in situations like this, I blew him a kiss. Talk about pouring petrol on a flame! He went even more crazy and started trying to pass me! I mistook this as flirting and after we made eye contact, I blew him another. I couldn't quite make out what it was he was shouting so I just looked coy and fluttered my eyelids.
Er...
Centurion07 said:
e21Mark said:
Life is way too short to get into potentially dangerous situations...
e21Mark said:
I did what anyone should do in situations like this, I blew him a kiss. Talk about pouring petrol on a flame! He went even more crazy and started trying to pass me! I mistook this as flirting and after we made eye contact, I blew him another. I couldn't quite make out what it was he was shouting so I just looked coy and fluttered my eyelids.
Er...
Centurion07 said:
turbobloke said:
SidewaysSi said:
Audemars said:
The reason why people lose it is because your driving mistakes whether genuine or not can kill. Cutting people up or similar can lead to fatal consequences. Accidentally cutting someone up (or worse forcing them off the road because you didnt see them in your blindspot) is not too different to throwing a knife at them but marginally missing. There are plenty of videos showing how the slightest contact between moving vehicles can be devastating.
Rather than moan at aggressive people jusr drive better.
That's a bunch of ballsRather than moan at aggressive people jusr drive better.
It pisses me off when people say things like "well, you wouldn't act like that as a pedestrian and someone cuts you up or bumps into you, would you?". Of course not, because a simple apology is quite easy to make when face-to-face and not only that, if you do bump into someone an apology is all it takes to sort it out.
Contrast that with a driver making "a tiny mistake" that results in a collision. At the very least your car is now damaged which will result in a load of ballache to get sorted. Going through insurance, having it sat at the garage awaiting assessment/repair, increased insurance etc etc all the way through to being injured.
A "slight lapse of concentration" when driving can result in consequences far out of proportion to the inital mistake.
So yes, when some a
hole doesn't acknowledge what they've just done, it is slightly annoying. Edited by Centurion07 on Sunday 4th December 11:22
Another example today heading back from a competition in hereford with some guys from my Jiu Jitsu gym.
60mph by Bristol.... guy driving right up my ass..... I leave a sensible gap in front as not going anywhere and incase of sudden braking. He swings under me and JUST gets in in front before hitting either me or car in front. THEN proceeds to start flipping the bird when we drive alongside after he pulled back to inside lane!
People seem to think a car is an extension of themselves and they are safe in it. Wrong.
To be fair today my mates went more nuts than me so I just watched on and laughed!!!
60mph by Bristol.... guy driving right up my ass..... I leave a sensible gap in front as not going anywhere and incase of sudden braking. He swings under me and JUST gets in in front before hitting either me or car in front. THEN proceeds to start flipping the bird when we drive alongside after he pulled back to inside lane!
People seem to think a car is an extension of themselves and they are safe in it. Wrong.
To be fair today my mates went more nuts than me so I just watched on and laughed!!!
sebulban said:
Another example today heading back from a competition in hereford with some guys from my Jiu Jitsu gym.
Which is another reason I don't get involved in aggro by the roadside.A few years ago, a good old-fashioned brawler like me could afford to take a couple of slaps to get in close; once I had my hands on you, that was it, you were f
ked.These days, so many young men are doing different types of jap-slapping or kiss-cuddle-and-torture you never know when you're going to get tied into a double-chuff-lock by someone you previously thought was a 10-stone weakling.
I think its just how it is today, Its a case of I can do it so I will and screw every body else. In the village where I live the parking is in short supply on certain roads and there are no yellow lines in some places but to park on where there are no lines jams the whole place up but if you say why do you do it they say well there are no lines but dust carts, delivery trucks etc have to inch past jamming up the flow of traffic. Hope its a ambulance for them one day stuck in the traffic. that's nasty but that's the attitude today
techguyone said:
I've noticed I get 'bullied' a lot more now I've swapped the CR-V for a Jazz, maybe they think I'm a pensioner or something. I take the same amount of notice of them in the Jazz as I did in the SUV
Those little cars do seem to attract a lot of flack. I also get angry company car man accelerating to warp factor 9 when I come up behind them on motorways. Oddly enough their balls aren't so big when I meet them on a country lane in a 90 grand tractor. The issue with a lot of aggression is that we live cheek by jowl (sp?) with everyone and everything things annoys someone.
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