DPF crackdown and EGR delete
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Welshbeef said:
Not so sure BMW offer model description delete as a free optional extra.
So he is playing by OEM terminology.
Totally different scenario. BWM are deleting something from the specification/build sheet which is perfectly acceptable terminology. When you remove (or simply disable) a physical object from your car it still exists, it has not been deleted.So he is playing by OEM terminology.
Edited by Mr2Mike on Sunday 4th December 12:15
caelite said:
He posts that on every single one of these threads, if you press him for further details he starts muttering about the 'news articles'. There is nothing currently in the pipeline for increased particulate testing for light vehicles, and when there is I can almost guarantee that it will only affect new vehicles. Retroactively increasing standards is a minefield for regulators.
There's plenty of evidence to suggest tougher emissions testing by 2018 if you are able to use a search engine.They can't retrospectively apply new emission limits to old cars but they can enforce limits that those cars should already meet. I'd be delighted to see s
tty diesels with gutted DPFs either take off the road for forced to be repaired.Welshbeef said:
This annoys me greatly old stty buses and Taxis.
But things are slowly changing - in Reading I'm seeing far more Prius Taxis and many Taxis have stop start but the buses a number are hydrogen they make a whirring noise unusual better than a bus diesel noise and zero emissions
What I don't get is why don't they make electric buses? Surely they can make them do 200mile range ideal for non stop bus routes in a town all day long.
Why not allow electric vehicles use the usually empty bus lanes passing all those vehicles with crushed Dino fuelling them that would piss me off and possibly encourage me to get an EV
Depends where you are - up the road in Oxford we've got a mix of diesel-electric and diesel-flywheel hybrid buses, the diesel engines are always off when stationary and only kick in when the bus gets up above about 10mph, well away from the stop. tty buses and Taxis. But things are slowly changing - in Reading I'm seeing far more Prius Taxis and many Taxis have stop start but the buses a number are hydrogen they make a whirring noise unusual better than a bus diesel noise and zero emissions
What I don't get is why don't they make electric buses? Surely they can make them do 200mile range ideal for non stop bus routes in a town all day long.
Why not allow electric vehicles use the usually empty bus lanes passing all those vehicles with crushed Dino fuelling them that would piss me off and possibly encourage me to get an EV
+1 for letting vehicles running on electric in to bus lanes, we've got a Golf GTE being able to whizz silently past the queues in e-mode would be great.
Apologies for using the offensive "delete" terminology. It was in the context of deleting numbers through remap to restrict the ecu's recognition of the egr. Removal is the physical act, that will also occur (along with the cooler). However, doing that without the map alterations will bring up an EML, hence "deleting" the egr function from the ecu before removing it from the vehicle.
Visual inspection for dpf.
Big fat 3 inch pipe may be problematic.
A neat cut gut and weld of oem downpipe probably is ok.
As long as the remap you get is a GOOD one and not a smokey one you will be fine.
You'll get a bit of smoke if youve been driving around town for 30 minutes then floor it but it should clear up pretty quickly.
Big fat 3 inch pipe may be problematic.
A neat cut gut and weld of oem downpipe probably is ok.
As long as the remap you get is a GOOD one and not a smokey one you will be fine.
You'll get a bit of smoke if youve been driving around town for 30 minutes then floor it but it should clear up pretty quickly.
Emanresu said:
EGR "delete"? Don't you mean EGR "removal"? Delete is such a stupid term. Oh look at me, I deleted my EGR, I deleted my spoiler etc. etc. No you damn well didn't, you just removed it.
To avoid awkward interjections which are wrong I suggest a short acronym: STT. Stop. Think. Type. Remember the middle T for think, it is an important step. You went straight from S to the second T. The internet can be a cruel mistress if you are prone to ill informed pedantic outbursts Edited by CS Garth on Sunday 4th December 13:13
Mr2Mike said:
caelite said:
He posts that on every single one of these threads, if you press him for further details he starts muttering about the 'news articles'. There is nothing currently in the pipeline for increased particulate testing for light vehicles, and when there is I can almost guarantee that it will only affect new vehicles. Retroactively increasing standards is a minefield for regulators.
There's plenty of evidence to suggest tougher emissions testing by 2018 if you are able to use a search engine.Thus even if they do bring in legislation in 2018 it probably wont take effect until 2020.
Its also worth remembering that the worst culprits for DPF problems are the earlier 06-09 cars - i'm thinking Ford / Volvo / Peugeot / Citroen 1.6 HDI engine and the Vauxhall 1.9CDTI as prime examples. After that the manufacturers seem to have got the hang of it.
So basically cars that have a gutted DPF are now heading towards their twilight years / end of life anyway.
I think the manufacturers should have been made to sort the mess out anyway - they put a technology in to cars that clearly wasnt fit for purpose - thus i can "understand" why people have done it, even though i personally have never done it.
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