R.I.P Renault Sport
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http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/renault/twingo/97883/...
Extremely disappointed in the new Renault Twingo GT. Yes it is not a full fat Renault Sport model but what has happened to Renault.
They were the manufacture to go to if you wanted a spot on hot hatch. Even their warm hatches were pretty good.
Now everything seems to be going in the wrong direction and going by the above test it is not getting any better
R.I.P Renault Sport???
Extremely disappointed in the new Renault Twingo GT. Yes it is not a full fat Renault Sport model but what has happened to Renault.
They were the manufacture to go to if you wanted a spot on hot hatch. Even their warm hatches were pretty good.
Now everything seems to be going in the wrong direction and going by the above test it is not getting any better
R.I.P Renault Sport???
Misleading thread title
Ask anyone who drove a rear engined Skoda or Porsche all those years ago, rear engine + short wheelbase + more power equals a very tricky handling car.
This car isn't even the full RenaultSport model but you can bet that the FWD RS Clio / Megane will be proper hot hatches even if the little rear engined Twingo is a bit of a poor relation.
(Yes, I am a petrolhead- a RWD hot hatch should be welcomed and applauded, but it's not necessarily going to drive in the way nowadays hot hatch buyers have come to expect so it probably won't be so hard core- It'll be set up 'safe')
Ask anyone who drove a rear engined Skoda or Porsche all those years ago, rear engine + short wheelbase + more power equals a very tricky handling car.
This car isn't even the full RenaultSport model but you can bet that the FWD RS Clio / Megane will be proper hot hatches even if the little rear engined Twingo is a bit of a poor relation.
(Yes, I am a petrolhead- a RWD hot hatch should be welcomed and applauded, but it's not necessarily going to drive in the way nowadays hot hatch buyers have come to expect so it probably won't be so hard core- It'll be set up 'safe')
Edited by HustleRussell on Tuesday 6th December 15:33
HustleRussell said:
I can't see Renault running hydraulic lines aft to fore in the car so unless the steering is unassisted, I'd guess 'yes'.
Thanks. I hadn't thought of the practicalities of running hydraulic plumbing forward.I just saw the bit in the review that mentioned the steering feeling wasn't up to much.
carinaman said:
HustleRussell said:
I can't see Renault running hydraulic lines aft to fore in the car so unless the steering is unassisted, I'd guess 'yes'.
Thanks. I hadn't thought of the practicalities of running hydraulic plumbing forward.I just saw the bit in the review that mentioned the steering feeling wasn't up to much.
FN2TypeR said:
It's not a full fat RS is it, merely a GT?
Either way, whilst it's hardly the last word in performance I bet it would be an absolute hoot to cane down a twisty back road as it's small, light and reasonably brisk - fun fun fun.
Not full fat but it is a Renault Sport car.Either way, whilst it's hardly the last word in performance I bet it would be an absolute hoot to cane down a twisty back road as it's small, light and reasonably brisk - fun fun fun.
The full fat Clio is not exactly the car many hoped it would be.
HustleRussell said:
I know some Smarts have no PAS- modern consumers have come to expect it but with the engine in the back and skinny front tyres you can really do without it. Would've been preferable to ePAS in my opinion... Anything is preferable to ePAS.
Perhaps the full fat Gordini version will do without PAS?Pulling the ePAS fuse would work?
Butter Face said:
What a crap title 
It's a GT, the old Twingo GT was a 1.2 turbo with 100bhp, this has 110bhp, and better spec. It's a better car all round than the old GT.
Hate to drive the old one.It's a GT, the old Twingo GT was a 1.2 turbo with 100bhp, this has 110bhp, and better spec. It's a better car all round than the old GT.
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The Twingo GT is the fastest and best-looking model in the range, but with a stiffer ride, a steeper asking price and very tame driving dynamics it struggles to make a strong case for itself.
t like this, too.ELUSIVEJIM said:
Butter Face said:
What a crap title
It's a GT, the old Twingo GT was a 1.2 turbo with 100bhp, this has 110bhp, and better spec. It's a better car all round than the old GT.
Hate to drive the old one.It's a GT, the old Twingo GT was a 1.2 turbo with 100bhp, this has 110bhp, and better spec. It's a better car all round than the old GT.
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The Twingo GT is the fastest and best-looking model in the range, but with a stiffer ride, a steeper asking price and very tame driving dynamics it struggles to make a strong case for itself.
Stiffer ride, yes, it's the GT model
Steeper asking price, yes, it's the top spec GT model
Tame driving dynamics, yes it's a 5 door hatch with a 0.9 turbo engine.
So go ahead, take their word for it, or you know, make your own mind up.
Butter Face said:
Autoexpress are definitely the last word in car reviews.
Stiffer ride, yes, it's the GT model
Steeper asking price, yes, it's the top spec GT model
Tame driving dynamics, yes it's a 5 door hatch with a 0.9 turbo engine.
So go ahead, take their word for it, or you know, make your own mind up.
Evo?Stiffer ride, yes, it's the GT model
Steeper asking price, yes, it's the top spec GT model
Tame driving dynamics, yes it's a 5 door hatch with a 0.9 turbo engine.
So go ahead, take their word for it, or you know, make your own mind up.
http://www.evo.co.uk/renault/twingo/18557/new-rena...
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Butter Face said:
Autoexpress are definitely the last word in car reviews.
Stiffer ride, yes, it's the GT model
Steeper asking price, yes, it's the top spec GT model
Tame driving dynamics, yes it's a 5 door hatch with a 0.9 turbo engine.
So go ahead, take their word for it, or you know, make your own mind up.
Evo?Stiffer ride, yes, it's the GT model
Steeper asking price, yes, it's the top spec GT model
Tame driving dynamics, yes it's a 5 door hatch with a 0.9 turbo engine.
So go ahead, take their word for it, or you know, make your own mind up.
http://www.evo.co.uk/renault/twingo/18557/new-rena...
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