Pearl Harbor - 75th Anniversary
Discussion
Jimbeaux said:
There are approximately 29 Pearl Harbor survivors attending the ceremony in Hawaii today. They range from 93-104 years old. Great generation of people.
they were the better generation so unselfish so willing to sacrifice themselves for others. Where would we be today without them I do wish some people would remember that.johnxjsc1985 said:
Jimbeaux said:
There are approximately 29 Pearl Harbor survivors attending the ceremony in Hawaii today. They range from 93-104 years old. Great generation of people.
they were the better generation so unselfish so willing to sacrifice themselves for others. Where would we be today without them I do wish some people would remember that.
Jimbeaux said:
The more you read of their individual sacrifices and contributions, the more amazed and humble that makes me. Youngsters on the street today have trouble even knowing who fought in WWII.
at the moment in the UK old people are seen s a burden. My dad did 39-45 as a young 19 year old and my mum was only 17 when she went to the munitions factories making bombs and Bailey Bridges ...some burden.Has the conspiracy theory been debunked or do some still believe that it was allowed to happen?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_advance...
Vanin said:
Has the conspiracy theory been debunked or do some still believe that it was allowed to happen?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_advance...
There's something on Channel 4, I think it is, this on Saturday.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_advance...
johnxjsc1985 said:
at the moment in the UK old people are seen s a burden. My dad did 39-45 as a young 19 year old and my mum was only 17 when she went to the munitions factories making bombs and Bailey Bridges ...some burden.
I really don't think the general public see OAPs as a burden - and for an OAP to have been militarily active in WW2 they would be at least 89 years old and that's servicing in the last year roll back to the start they would be at least 95years old. That's strictly the 18yo starting service. The "burden" is the fact we have not had a baby BOOM to replace the 1950-60's baby boom which means those working have to pay in so much more to pay for the older folk no longer working. Had we kept the baby boom going no issue plus vastly less need for EU migrants as we have ample population in the U.K. We are currently in a baby boom but it's 20+ years away before that benefit hits the tax revenues
What the Govt should do is increase child care payments drastically and tax breaks for families with kids the more you have the more you have tax reduced. Good incentive to remove the burden.
Vanin said:
Has the conspiracy theory been debunked or do some still believe that it was allowed to happen?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_advance...
Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_advance...
I remember hearing about 'Pearl Harbour' weather- a nasty nip in the air.
johnxjsc1985 said:
Jimbeaux said:
The more you read of their individual sacrifices and contributions, the more amazed and humble that makes me. Youngsters on the street today have trouble even knowing who fought in WWII.
at the moment in the UK old people are seen s a burden. My dad did 39-45 as a young 19 year old and my mum was only 17 when she went to the munitions factories making bombs and Bailey Bridges ...some burden.Welshbeef said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
at the moment in the UK old people are seen s a burden. My dad did 39-45 as a young 19 year old and my mum was only 17 when she went to the munitions factories making bombs and Bailey Bridges ...some burden.
I really don't think the general public see OAPs as a burden - and for an OAP to have been militarily active in WW2 they would be at least 89 years old and that's servicing in the last year roll back to the start they would be at least 95years old. That's strictly the 18yo starting service. The "burden" is the fact we have not had a baby BOOM to replace the 1950-60's baby boom which means those working have to pay in so much more to pay for the older folk no longer working. Had we kept the baby boom going no issue plus vastly less need for EU migrants as we have ample population in the U.K. We are currently in a baby boom but it's 20+ years away before that benefit hits the tax revenues
What the Govt should do is increase child care payments drastically and tax breaks for families with kids the more you have the more you have tax reduced. Good incentive to remove the burden.
Back on topic. Many of us on here have, and will (God willing) see two wartime generations pass from living memory. A sad yet historic moment. Fortunately, video interviews, etc of both WWI & WWII vets exist so that future generations will have a better connection with them (if they bother 
) than war vets prior.
) than war vets prior. Edited by Jimbeaux on Thursday 8th December 18:32
Jimbeaux said:
Back on topic. Many of us on here have, and will (God willing) see two wartime generations pass from living memory. A sad yet historic moment. Fortunately, video interviews, etc of both WWI & WWII vets exist so that future generations will have a better connection with them (if they bother :rolleyes) than war vets prior.
I think that's the key difference. even when they are long gone the amount of films, documentaries, interviews, newsreels, books, games etc will mean they will always be better remembered. WW1 was also the first major conflict were ordinary soldiers were able to easily record their views and experiencesMr Snrub said:
I think that's the key difference. even when they are long gone the amount of films, documentaries, interviews, newsreels, books, games etc will mean they will always be better remembered. WW1 was also the first major conflict were ordinary soldiers were able to easily record their views and experiences
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