Part ex deal agreed with dealer but another offer received

Part ex deal agreed with dealer but another offer received

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Crazy4557

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674 posts

194 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Bear with me on this but I have a slight predicament.
Ordered new stock (at factory) car 10 days ago and agreed price on my current car in part ex. My new car has only just arrived at dealership yesterday from the factory but I had the reg doc in my name sent to me in the post last week, the car was registered on 30th November in my name.
I've today been offered another £2k from an independent dealer for my part exchange car which is attractive so I called my finance company to get a settlement figure emailed to the independent garage so we can set up the deal but get told that the finance has been paid off so in effect the garage now owns my car and I own the new car which isn't yet delivered as the new finance deal started as of 2nd December.
I'm meant to pick up the new car Saturday.
Would you call the dealer and tell them they've been a bit presumptuous by tying the deal up a while before the car is even on site and expect them to let me sell the part ex elsewhere or what would you consider to be an ethical conclusion for this issue? £2000.00 is a lot of cash so I'm keen to force my dealers hand and sell it elsewhere.

andymc

7,356 posts

207 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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dont think its your car anymore

LuS1fer

41,135 posts

245 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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You made the contract and must have signed stuff to enable them to regsiter it to you.
You can't just walk away without breaching the contract.
They might let you pay the part-ex price in cash so you can sell the car elsewhere, but that is about as good as you'll get.Realistically, if you've accepted a lowball px then they will want it to make a profit.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Thats unfortunate, but tough luck. st happens. Don't worry too much about it.
Also, you might not want to risk it.. the WBAC approach is to knock money off for silly little things, the sly bds. The dealer is probably going to do that too, and you'll probably only walk away with £100 profit after loads of hassle.

750turbo

6,164 posts

224 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Pretty sharp practise by the Dealer?

Did you sign the Finance Docs (If there are any) or any other relevant paperwork?

Looks like they were desperate for a Nov registration.

grumbledoak

31,534 posts

233 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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In your own words, "deal agreed".

Sheepshanks

32,767 posts

119 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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LuS1fer said:
They might let you pay the part-ex price in cash so you can sell the car elsewhere,
It's got to be worth asking. I wouldn't say I was selling it to a trader though.

It does seem a bit off that the new car has already been registered and the finance started - I've never had that happen. Apart from anything else, won't a months' tax be lost?

Crazy4557

Original Poster:

674 posts

194 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Sheepshanks said:
It's got to be worth asking. I wouldn't say I was selling it to a trader though.

It does seem a bit off that the new car has already been registered and the finance started - I've never had that happen. Apart from anything else, won't a months' tax be lost?
Yes, and at £1120.00 for the first year that's a few quid.

Crazy4557

Original Poster:

674 posts

194 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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sleepera6 said:
Thats unfortunate, but tough luck. st happens. Don't worry too much about it.
Also, you might not want to risk it.. the WBAC approach is to knock money off for silly little things, the sly bds. The dealer is probably going to do that too, and you'll probably only walk away with £100 profit after loads of hassle.
My cars is 12 months old and there's nothing to give them a reason to knock it. I've dealt with WBAC and seen their tricks, but this dealer I've dealt with before and they are OK

HTP99

22,552 posts

140 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Sounds like you have already signed the finance agreement for the new car and that dealer has most likely contra settled on your part ex, you may be able to walk away but you will lose any deposit already paid and incur charges to cancel the new finance agreement and the dealer will be likely chasing you for other losses aswell, ie. they will have a second hand new car.

Really begs the question, why sign up for a new car, including signing the finance agreement and then go looking elsewhere?

You are in a very difficult position if you want to pull out of the new car.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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So, you agreed a deal with the dealer to part ex your car, but have been offered more money for it from another an indy dealer?


So, how did the indy dealer know about your car?

hora

37,130 posts

211 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Calm down its a px not the main deal.

For the price to be that different says the OP was given a sly low deal in the first place.

All he has to say is 'I've decided to keep the ox, a problem'?

2k is too much to turn down. It also makes me think how many more customers do they do this to.

Tough, look after number one in this situation IMO.

OP dis you sign anything? (An aside point)

Crazy4557

Original Poster:

674 posts

194 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Alucidnation said:
So, you agreed a deal with the dealer to part ex your car, but have been offered more money for it from another an indy dealer?


So, how did the indy dealer know about your car?
A sales guy got in touch as I was on their database, I explained I wasn't looking to buy anything at the moment as I'd just done a deal for a new car, I idly suggested they might like to bid for my car, after all I haven't had the new one yet so surely I'm still able to alter the deal to suit myself and benefit financially. By going to the local main dealer I expected to be given a good offer for my car as they were going to retail it themselves

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Ah, a dealer hater.

Edit:

Sorry OP, aimed at the poster above you.

Edited by Alucidnation on Wednesday 7th December 19:41

750turbo

6,164 posts

224 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Alucidnation said:
Ah, a dealer hater.
How to you come to that conclusion?

OP - Would it be rude to ask what your car is? (and rough value?)

Blue Oval84

5,276 posts

161 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Hmm, seems presumptuous of them, what if you were to crash the car tonight?

I'd just ring them and say that you now want to keep the p/ex and will be providing the cash balance in place of the car.

daemon

35,822 posts

197 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Blue Oval84 said:
Hmm, seems presumptuous of them, what if you were to crash the car tonight?

I'd just ring them and say that you now want to keep the p/ex and will be providing the cash balance in place of the car.
I'd probably run with "a family member wants to buy it thus i dont need to trade it in" and see what the dealer says.

daemon

35,822 posts

197 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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750turbo said:
Pretty sharp practise by the Dealer?
Loving how you've concluded its "sharp practice" by the dealer, yet its the buyer here trying to get out of a commitment.....

Dimebars

897 posts

94 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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You'd have signed the finance docs among other things to allow them to register your new car in November. They've been paid out on the finance deal so have settled your PX off as is normal practice (certainly not sharp as has been suggested)

What I'd do is

1. phone the dealer you've bought the new car from and explain that your PX is now off the table and you will BACS him the same value before collection

2. take your PX to the Indy and have him BACS you the agreed value and sell him the car.

3. collect your new car and enjoy the extra £2k

BigLion

1,497 posts

99 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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So the independent garage want to buy your car outright without you buying anything from them?

I don't buy it - they haven't seen the car and offer 2k more - be careful if that's the case as they are unlikely to honour the dea. Guy is prob trying to mess your deal up.

What is 2k as a % of the part ex price?