RE: Lexus LC500: Driven

RE: Lexus LC500: Driven

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Cacatous

3,163 posts

274 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Yipper said:
It is a typical Lexus performance car...

You can see what they tried to do... But they never quite managed it...

Interior is nice, but the exterior is not quite pretty enough, and the speed is not quite fast enough.
Can you explain why 168mph isn't fast enough?

DJM7691

426 posts

110 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Cacatous said:
Yipper said:
It is a typical Lexus performance car...

You can see what they tried to do... But they never quite managed it...

Interior is nice, but the exterior is not quite pretty enough, and the speed is not quite fast enough.
Can you explain why 168mph isn't fast enough?
It's not that it's not fast enough, it's that it doesn't match up to the cars that it supposedly rivals.

If we are going down the line of "168mph is pointless as it can't be used on UK roads" then just extend the argument to all sports cars and it kills it dead.

If you look at it objectively, then it falls behind it's rivals in speed.

mrfunex

545 posts

175 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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But outright pace isn't everything though, is it?

NoPaddleShiftForMe

166 posts

98 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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I saw this car in the flesh at Salon Prive and listened as the guy from Lexus explained what they were planning for the car. I thought it looked stunning and what he was describing as a driver's car was just what I was looking for in my new daily. Add to that Lexus's legendary reputation for build quality and reliability and I was sold. I placed a deposit for a Sport Plus with my local dealer. I have to say the first drive reports suggest that Lexus have delivered on what they promised and I am really happy I moved quickly and will get one of the first cars in Scotland.

TerryThomas

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1,228 posts

92 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Better change your user name then.

Vocht

1,631 posts

165 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Absolutely love this car! That interior is truly stunning.

Everybody always complains about boring German designs that all look the same, share half their switch gear with Golfs and have downsized engines. Well now is your chance to get something that is non of those. True luxury imo.


El Guapo

2,787 posts

191 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Patrick Bateman said:
10 speed?
Pointless. Anything with a big torquey V8 really needs no more than a 6-speed transmission.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Try finding an LFA for sale, check it's pricing, and compare it to it's peers. You don't get residuals like that if you didn't make an 'impact'.

mikebradford

2,523 posts

146 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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I feel its the Subaru SVX of its generation
A truly quirky styled car.

I like it, not sure that's enough for me given the price point.
But i certainly like that Lexus keep trying to be distinctive

Harvey Mushman00

271 posts

134 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Now that is something I would trade the IS-F in for.

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Royd72 said:
Nice but needs bigger wheels, they look a little lost, fill those arches up........................
Those pics have the poverty spec wheels. You can spec 21s which look great.

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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ZX10R NIN said:
I have to say I really like the look this, it'll be good to see it in the flesh.
It looks even better in the metal. The Autocar pic choice isn't very flattering for it. In the red, blue or white it looks stunning. Some of the interiors are two-tone too, which look much better than the tan pic a few posts above this.

As for the weight - this is a GT car, not a sports car and so a very high spec interior and equipment take their toll.

But it's a very special place to sit in and sounds fantastic in V8 guise.

Edited by Stig on Friday 9th December 08:43

Gandahar

9,600 posts

129 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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daveydees said:
From the comments, it looks like this is a bit of a marmite car. You love it or hate it... I hate it. There's nothing visually there that works. The lines are too messy like a cheap Decepticon from a transformers movie. The wheels are rank, it's really heavy. The list goes on! Bleuuurgh!yuck
I agree it's a marmite car, quite a few positive comments on here, more than I expected to be honest.

I'm pro and con on the outside. The rear looks too fat again, like the GT-R, but it is distinctive, Toyota no longer conservative, this is no Auris. I love the interior, I think it is an interior that would you be more than happy in on the first day stroking the textures and pushing the buttons and checking the damping of moving interior parts as you would be happy 2 years later.

It is heavy, that's Lexus build for you and a big V8. Maybe it has some Landcruiser in it? smile

Considering this is big and heavy it still puzzles me why Toyota have not released the FT-1 as a Lexus to to fill out the lighter side also








Edited by Gandahar on Friday 9th December 09:15

spreadsheet monkey

4,545 posts

228 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Wizardskills said:
Love it, cant afford one now but I'm looking forward to picking one up for 50p in 10 years time.
Good luck with that! The far uglier SC430 rarely drops below five grand, even for ratty high mileage Cat C cars.

This new LC looks great. Nice to see Lexus taking the fight to Merc and Porsche.

TerryThomas

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1,228 posts

92 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Gandahar said:
I agree it's a marmite car, quite a few positive comments on here, more than I expected to be honest.

I'm pro and con on the outside. The rear looks too fat again, like the GT-R, but it is distinctive, Toyota no longer conservative, this is no Auris. I love the interior, I think it is an interior that would you be more than happy in on the first day stroking the textures and pushing the buttons and checking the damping of moving interior parts as you would be happy 2 years later.

It is heavy, that's Lexus build for you and a big V8. Maybe it has some Landcruiser in it? smile

Considering this is big and heavy it still puzzles me why Toyota have not released the FT-1 as a Lexus to to fill out the lighter side also








Edited by Gandahar on Friday 9th December 09:15
You seen what that looks like now...

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-japanesecars/ne...

kambites

67,591 posts

222 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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I think it's a fabulous looking thing, especially compared to most of the designs coming out of Europe recently.

Seems a bit confused as to what it's trying to be though, with a relatively low-torque naturally aspirated V8 but a two tonne kerb weight. I'm not usually one to focus on numbers but 240bhp/tonne and 200lbft/tonne seems a bit... lame in this market. I also can't help but feel that the number of gears these things have is getting beyond silly.

I love this engine but can't help but feel that they still haven't really put it in a car that's worthy of it. Hopefully Lotus will be able to buy it and shove it in something a bit lighter. smile

Edited by kambites on Friday 9th December 09:42

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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kambites said:
I think it's a fabulous looking thing, especially compared to most of the designs coming out of Europe recently.

Seems a bit confused as to what it's trying to be though, with a relatively low-torque naturally aspirated V8 but a two tonne kerb weight. I'm not usually one to focus on numbers but 240bhp/tonne and 200lbft/tonne seems a bit... lame in this market. I also can't help but feel that the number of gears these things have is getting beyond silly.

I love this engine but can't help but feel that they still haven't really put it in a car that's worthy of it. Hopefully Lotus will be able to buy it and shove it in something a bit lighter. smile

Edited by kambites on Friday 9th December 09:42
It's a GT car - pure and simple. Luxurious inside, looks fab, effortlessly lopes across continents, sounds great.

Simples.

Dr_Rick

1,592 posts

249 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Ah, go on then....


NoPaddleShiftForMe

166 posts

98 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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TerryThomas said:
Better change your user name then.
Don't mind paddleshifts for my daily just not my weekend/track cars. If you check my garage you will see nothing but manuals on the toy side.

big_rob_sydney

3,405 posts

195 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Quite like it, but its too heavy for me. By the time you get all the seats occupied and have some luggage, it will be close to the weight of the QE2.

And I'm a Lexus fan, with an LS, which is also on the wrong side of the weight scale, and I'm the first to admit that.