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So we know its coming; does anyone know any more than the clips on U Tube are currently offering? Is it to be called a GT3R? Just seems to have gone a bit quiet after all the initial speculation. So far I believe we are talking a manual box to be an option, 15 BHP more and wider rear wheels are a couple of things being bandied about. I'm just curious.
Yes not long now, earliest launch would be Geneva is my guess, but guessing is all most of us do in advance of these Gt cars, I missed out on the Gen 1 then tried hard for the RS but no joy,
MANY cars were sold to habitual flippers ! will that still be the case for Gen 2 ? let's hope not.
MANY cars were sold to habitual flippers ! will that still be the case for Gen 2 ? let's hope not.
Deansfield said:
Yes not long now, earliest launch would be Geneva is my guess, but guessing is all most of us do in advance of these Gt cars, I missed out on the Gen 1 then tried hard for the RS but no joy,
MANY cars were sold to habitual flippers ! will that still be the case for Gen 2 ? let's hope not.
Someone who should know about these things told me two of the four 911 R's that OPC Reading were allocated have been flipped....give that's Porsche GB's HQ/Flagship OPC I wouldn't hold out much hope. I think some OPC's do actively try and prevent it. MANY cars were sold to habitual flippers ! will that still be the case for Gen 2 ? let's hope not.
tree7777 said:
yes can't believe it you'll have to stick with the GT4 Rob!
Hi James really rather pleased with the GT4. My RS had done 6000 miles just felt selling was the right thing to do. Made the decision just before we went to Scotland. Had we kept it another 2300 miles would have gone on. Right decision, wrong decision I guess I won't know for sure for a little while. Just hoping I get the chance of a Gen 2 GT3. robgt3 said:
tree7777 said:
yes can't believe it you'll have to stick with the GT4 Rob!
Hi James really rather pleased with the GT4. My RS had done 6000 miles just felt selling was the right thing to do. Made the decision just before we went to Scotland. Had we kept it another 2300 miles would have gone on. Right decision, wrong decision I guess I won't know for sure for a little while. Just hoping I get the chance of a Gen 2 GT3. hunter 66 said:
Think they will make a lot of them this time ........ maybe back to the days of old ( 996 GT3 and 997 GT3 ) where anyone who orders will get one ..
Looks like there will be around 450.Certainly no more than the 600 GT4s.....in order to maintain the 911 prestige branding.
Apparantly detailed 'vetting' of those interested (apart from those already 'invited') will take place....past flippers will be excluded....and rightly so.
Porsche don't want/can't afford the 'bad' press associated with the flipping gen1 GT3 and particularly the GT4 sagas.
av185 said:
Looks like there will be around 450.
Certainly no more than the 600 GT4s.....in order to maintain the 911 prestige branding.
Apparantly detailed 'vetting' of those interested (apart from those already 'invited') will take place....past flippers will be excluded....and rightly so.
Porsche don't want/can't afford the 'bad' press associated with the flipping gen1 GT3 and particularly the GT4 sagas.
This is interesting. How robust is your source? Certainly no more than the 600 GT4s.....in order to maintain the 911 prestige branding.
Apparantly detailed 'vetting' of those interested (apart from those already 'invited') will take place....past flippers will be excluded....and rightly so.
Porsche don't want/can't afford the 'bad' press associated with the flipping gen1 GT3 and particularly the GT4 sagas.
Previously the received wisdom was that the lucky few would need to have bought numerous new models over the last few years, ie lots of Panameras, Cayennes, cooking 911s and so on. Do you have any thoughts on what this more intensive vetting might look like? I'm on a couple of lists for a .2GT3, but maybe my chances improve if the vetting focuses on the enthusiast owner with some history in the GT type models.
One can hope
I think the instruction from Porsche Uk was posted on here a few months ago and that seemed to tally with what I'd already been told from my dealer . The 3 criteria I recall are ...
History of 10 cars purchased from OPC
History of GT cars
No "Special product" car sold within 6 or 12 months
History of 10 cars purchased from OPC
History of GT cars
No "Special product" car sold within 6 or 12 months
jimmyslr said:
This is interesting. How robust is your source?
Previously the received wisdom was that the lucky few would need to have bought numerous new models over the last few years, ie lots of Panameras, Cayennes, cooking 911s and so on. Do you have any thoughts on what this more intensive vetting might look like? I'm on a couple of lists for a .2GT3, but maybe my chances improve if the vetting focuses on the enthusiast owner with some history in the GT type models.
Dependent on which group owns the OPC, the sales guys will have little or no discretion allocating a car furthermore many are loathe to even talk about whether a car will be forthcoming following a certain court case not long ago.Previously the received wisdom was that the lucky few would need to have bought numerous new models over the last few years, ie lots of Panameras, Cayennes, cooking 911s and so on. Do you have any thoughts on what this more intensive vetting might look like? I'm on a couple of lists for a .2GT3, but maybe my chances improve if the vetting focuses on the enthusiast owner with some history in the GT type models.
The problem with being on more than one OPCs 'list' is which one do you go with when both contact you on the cars announcement....unless you multi deposit. It would be interesting hearing of anyone who secured a build slot for a recent GT car following placing several deposits at different OPCs.....frowned upon by PGB who could jeopordise your chance of getting a car at all.
In any event, expressing an interest in the car is now relatively meaningless following the scrapping of letters of intent.....only those chosen few who are invited to show an interest and subsequently do so will now receive an allocation under the new system
Edited by av185 on Saturday 17th December 22:23
10 cars, keep in the good books, get a special nod/wink.... I do hope this isn't the reality. It's a car, a nice one we all hope, but not something off the scale. I hope Hunter is right and that they'll ratchet up the numbers so that those who fancy one, because they like the drive, will get get one.
Deep breath...
Deep breath...
anonymous said:
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I'm not sure about that. I think there is quite some ill will generated from the more recent supply, demand and selection issues. Many of us find instant "overs" on a production car unseemly. You don't just see it on pistonheads, but on all the fora, magazines and even when chatting to car types. When it's long term owners of Porsche and Porsche enthusiasts that you're cheesing off that's a high risk strategy. I think Porsche have gained some market cache from the halo effect of the GT3/4/RS/R but they've created some collateral damage. Time will tell how that pans out and whether one outweighs the other. Probably their strategy is a good one for long term value creation for Porsche but they've sacrificed customers like me along the way.
This trend is helping companies like mclaren. I'm seriously considering a 570 and there are many like me.
Edited by jimmyslr on Sunday 18th December 11:14
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I agree. The demand for many Porsche products, old and new, is riding the crest of a wave at the moment, partly because limited supply fuels greater desirability. All prestige manufactures would love this scenario.To over produce something like the new GT3 would be potentially damaging to the brand and current values.
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