RE: Nissan Skyline GT-R (R32): Spotted
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C7 JFW said:
Notanotherturbo said:
Like mine better, 64k km, only mods are filters exhaust and remap and Volk Racing wheels. Have the originals. Much nicer in metallic black ?? 
Not just any Rays wheels either - Rays GTP Daytonas, incredibly rare - just don't lose those centre caps!Sorry. IMO they ruin the car.
Not keen on those wheels but they are of the era that these got tuned and seriously modified, funny, how eventually we come back to the fact that the manufacturer got it pretty much spot on, same as the 300 ZX which people have down and some chest wig on wheels from the 80s due to them all being kitted with lairy paint and massive wheels, but a standard one is, nowadays, compared to the new, shouty looking German stuff, quite unassuming.
Ditto RX7's and many other Japanese sports cars.
Ditto RX7's and many other Japanese sports cars.
The internet is a wonderful tool for research yet with so much advanced technology. We can't always expect advanced users. The car you quote is listed in Japan at £27000. I guess you work on the assumption that it is free of charge to buy in Japan, free of charge to export, free shipping, no 10 percent duty and 20 percent VAT to pay and nothing to pay for registration preparation?
In actual fact, with all those associated costs. A £27000 car in Japan will easily cost close to £38000.
With that mind, for a standard clean car. I believe this one is well priced.
In actual fact, with all those associated costs. A £27000 car in Japan will easily cost close to £38000.
With that mind, for a standard clean car. I believe this one is well priced.
j_s14a said:
This one is MUCH nicer:
http://www.carsensor.net/usedcar/detail/CU48136659...
24,000km (15,000 miles). Nicer colour, better condition, probably around £27k OTR here.
http://www.carsensor.net/usedcar/detail/CU48136659...
24,000km (15,000 miles). Nicer colour, better condition, probably around £27k OTR here.
rampageturke said:
A car that deserves to be mechanically modified, so much reliable potential in that engine
Not necessarily true. Don't get me wrong the RB26 is a great engine, just not as "bombproof" as the internet would have you believe. They are fine if tuned and looked after properly but they aren't idiot proof. I know of far to many engine rebuild horror stories.Guvernator said:
rampageturke said:
A car that deserves to be mechanically modified, so much reliable potential in that engine
Not necessarily true. Don't get me wrong the RB26 is a great engine, just not as "bombproof" as the internet would have you believe. They are fine if tuned and looked after properly but they aren't idiot proof. I know of far to many engine rebuild horror stories.rampageturke said:
I wouldn't go as far as to say bombproof and certainly not idiot proof (what engine is? (FJ20ET? heh, but anyway...)) it's certainly a lot more robust than a lot of other engines.
Yep this I can certainly agree on, makes a mockery of modern turbo engines in both reliability and character. Can you think of a modern turbo engine besides obvious exceptions in unaffordable supercars that can rev to over 8krpm, sound so good doing it and be reliably tuned to over 500bhp with just bolt on mods? And this was an engine designed in the 1980's, it sometimes seems like we've gone backwardsGuvernator said:
Bigger twins or single turbo, fuel injectors, exhaust\intake mods and a re-map, basically you don't need to perform open heart surgery on the engine which is where things usually get complicated\expensive until you are way past 600bhp.
I, along with David Yu, ran R32 Skylines back in the mid nineties and can attest to difference between the myths and the reality of their reliability when tuned. The idea they were indestructible came simply from the story that the RB26 engine shared an iron block with a Nissan Patrol, which I guess represented the last word in bombproofness. Yes, you can bolt all sorts of bits on them to get the power up to 500+bhp, but without strengthening their internals, they're far from bombproof. David grenaded his engine on the French Autoroute in spectacular oil-all-over-the-windscreen style and mine let go on more than one occasion. In those days, Andy Middlehurst in St Helens was the only place to get them fixed adding insulting inconvenience to financial injury.
That said, they were — and probably still are — fantastic, evocative and exciting cars to drive and own. I bought another one a few years later, which had strengthened internals and revved its heart out to 9,500 RPM making 650BHP in the process.
tim milne said:
Guvernator said:
Bigger twins or single turbo, fuel injectors, exhaust\intake mods and a re-map, basically you don't need to perform open heart surgery on the engine which is where things usually get complicated\expensive until you are way past 600bhp.
I, along with David Yu, ran R32 Skylines back in the mid nineties and can attest to difference between the myths and the reality of their reliability when tuned. The idea they were indestructible came simply from the story that the RB26 engine shared an iron block with a Nissan Patrol, which I guess represented the last word in bombproofness. Yes, you can bolt all sorts of bits on them to get the power up to 500+bhp, but without strengthening their internals, they're far from bombproof. David grenaded his engine on the French Autoroute in spectacular oil-all-over-the-windscreen style and mine let go on more than one occasion. In those days, Andy Middlehurst in St Helens was the only place to get them fixed adding insulting inconvenience to financial injury.
That said, they were — and probably still are — fantastic, evocative and exciting cars to drive and own. I bought another one a few years later, which had strengthened internals and revved its heart out to 9,500 RPM making 650BHP in the process.
I've had 32 gtr's for over ten years now and have been really impressed with reliability.
When I got my current car it felt so quick I thought there's no way it'd last running so much power... 6 years later it's making more power and still hasn't blown up yet!
Most people only think of power when talking GTR's but it's how they drive through the corners that most enjoyment can be had. Turn is is exactly as a rear drive, exit pretty much the same so lots of oversteer then once you're going straight it'll work the fronts too meaning you can accelerate hard without melting the rears.
It means tyres last better, less push understeer like you find with 'normal' 4wd but most importantly it's an absolute blast to drive.
Lap time wise they're well up there with supercars even today, makes it so special to me that a geriatric Datsun can do this
Sorry, just have to share a vid!
https://youtu.be/oimotlGvvVo
When I got my current car it felt so quick I thought there's no way it'd last running so much power... 6 years later it's making more power and still hasn't blown up yet!
Most people only think of power when talking GTR's but it's how they drive through the corners that most enjoyment can be had. Turn is is exactly as a rear drive, exit pretty much the same so lots of oversteer then once you're going straight it'll work the fronts too meaning you can accelerate hard without melting the rears.
It means tyres last better, less push understeer like you find with 'normal' 4wd but most importantly it's an absolute blast to drive.
Lap time wise they're well up there with supercars even today, makes it so special to me that a geriatric Datsun can do this
Sorry, just have to share a vid!
https://youtu.be/oimotlGvvVo
tim milne said:
I, along with David Yu, ran R32 Skylines back in the mid nineties and can attest to difference between the myths and the reality of their reliability when tuned. The idea they were indestructible came simply from the story that the RB26 engine shared an iron block with a Nissan Patrol, which I guess represented the last word in bombproofness.
Yes, you can bolt all sorts of bits on them to get the power up to 500+bhp, but without strengthening their internals, they're far from bombproof. David grenaded his engine on the French Autoroute in spectacular oil-all-over-the-windscreen style and mine let go on more than one occasion. In those days, Andy Middlehurst in St Helens was the only place to get them fixed adding insulting inconvenience to financial injury.
That said, they were — and probably still are — fantastic, evocative and exciting cars to drive and own. I bought another one a few years later, which had strengthened internals and revved its heart out to 9,500 RPM making 650BHP in the process.
Early days of tuners learning their trade on customers cars perhaps?Yes, you can bolt all sorts of bits on them to get the power up to 500+bhp, but without strengthening their internals, they're far from bombproof. David grenaded his engine on the French Autoroute in spectacular oil-all-over-the-windscreen style and mine let go on more than one occasion. In those days, Andy Middlehurst in St Helens was the only place to get them fixed adding insulting inconvenience to financial injury.
That said, they were — and probably still are — fantastic, evocative and exciting cars to drive and own. I bought another one a few years later, which had strengthened internals and revved its heart out to 9,500 RPM making 650BHP in the process.
So many of these stock engines are and have been pushing well over 500 for so many years.
git-r said:
Early days of tuners learning their trade on customers cars perhaps?
So many of these stock engines are and have been pushing well over 500 for so many years.
Are you talking at the wheels or the crank? Rips NZ claim that their RB30 can make reliable 600 whp on standard internals and I would believe that claim. So many of these stock engines are and have been pushing well over 500 for so many years.
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