RE: TDI the new PPI

[Borroxs]

MIDangerfield said:

The same spokesman for Harcus Sinclair was on Radio 2 today suggesting that most of his clients were concerned about the effect their cars were having on the environment more than anything. Some of the absolute rubbish lawyers will spout still amazes me. I'm also baffled by people saying their cars are not as economic as they were after the software update especially as the defeat software isn't even active during normal driving! I'm not suggesting VW aren't in the wrong but seriously? A few grand to the owners of affected vehicles? What possible impact has this had on any of their lives?

The mpg performance of their car before or after the software upgrade has nothing to do with the defeat software, The defeat software allowed VW to state certain performance figures which were nothing to do with reality.

So it's quite possible that before the software 'upgrade' the cars were doing better mpg figures than after the 'upgrade'. because the upgrade isn't about improving mpg it's about reducing pollution.

In fact, it's not an upgrade, it's an update. An update to comply with pollution regs, not to improve mpg.

[pmr01]

Just another thing to PISS ME RIGHT OFF in life....now that PPI Is coming to an end we now have this st. More weasely lawyers coming out from under their stones. Hopefully, there are not sufficient weasely lawyers coming out of university such demand for their 'skills' increases so that I stop getting calls / texts about 'the accident' I have had. Where the feck did we go wrong in society that this st is allowed.

The 'lawyer' on radio 2 was a ticket....he sounds like he was bullied at school by girls; apologies to anyone reading this who was yada yada yada

[mattwhite709]

Tankrizzo said:

What loss have you suffered?

I have already p/x the car so potentially the value I recieved was lower but most importantly it is about holding people to account who make mistakes.

[HardtopManual]

mattwhite709 said:

it is about holding people to account who make mistakes.

It is about holding a large corporate to account which has lied.

[Yipper]

VAG committed mega-fraud and poisoned me, family and friends with more life-shortening chemicals than they let on. Looking forward to a juicy payout to go with the PPI bonanza

[sparks_E39]

It's not a software update it's a rewrite. We have an affected car and I refuse to sign up. First of all values are not affected, 2015/2016 were record years for VW sales. It took 30 minutes to change software and all is well. It is the PPI, where there's blame there's a claim st all over again. I don't want VW's money. And yes £3k would be lovely right now.

[martin mrt]

Having owned over 50+ various VAG cars in my lifetime including a few that were affected by the cheat software I won't be seeking any form of compensation. I wasn't affected in any way, I never got ill, wasn't hurt, no one died and I sold my last car that was affected by the software (Golf GTD) for more than I purchased it for.

The PPI, You were involved in a road accident some years ago cold calling really pisses me off to the point that as soon as I hang up I block the number, hopefully it's the same morons pursuing this ridiculous line of compensation as the other two I mentioned and I won't be bothered

It's not just VW that were at the cheating, sadly it was them that were found out first and have taken the brunt of the backlash.

[pmr01]

I raise a glass to Martin mrt...a man after my own heart.

[donkmeister]

gweaver said:

If VAG went bankrupt other manufacturers would fulfil the demand, and other jobs would be created.

Exactly - Rover went bankrupt after BMW royally f**ked them over. I don't remember anyone wandering about unable to buy a new car because a decently-sized manufacturer had been closed down.

[LP670]

hopefully every man and his dog milks the krouts of every last penny, one less manufacturer producing overpriced and poorly executed products.

[Toaster Pilot]

• horrible jingle only found on daytime TV adverts*

"Have you.... got TDIiiiiiii"

Cn I stl clyam if itz motorbility? Nans car but I drive it innit

[Tankrizzo]

mattwhite709 said:

I have already p/x the car so potentially the value I recieved was lower but most importantly it is about holding people to account who make mistakes.

Ok, so I assume you'll be happy to donate any "winnings" to a lung cancer charity?

[Four Litre]

Fully signed up. Having been on the sharp end of VW customer service I hold no sympathy for them.

I like to think this is some form of Karma.

[hora]

Alucidnation said:

Good to see PH putting the boot in now.

It's a diesel. What should it be? 'PH shopping car mpg matters'

[Ahonen]

donkmeister said:

gweaver said:

If VAG went bankrupt other manufacturers would fulfil the demand, and other jobs would be created.

Exactly - Rover went bankrupt after BMW royally f**ked them over. I don't remember anyone wandering about unable to buy a new car because a decently-sized manufacturer had been closed down.

Your point is irrelevant. Thousands of people lost their jobs when Rover went under.

[Ahonen]

mattwhite709 said:

I have already p/x the car so potentially the value I recieved was lower but most importantly it is about holding people to account who make mistakes.

How much lower was your part exchange?

[LP670]

Ahonen said:

donkmeister said:

gweaver said:

If VAG went bankrupt other manufacturers would fulfil the demand, and other jobs would be created.

Exactly - Rover went bankrupt after BMW royally f**ked them over. I don't remember anyone wandering about unable to buy a new car because a decently-sized manufacturer had been closed down.

Your point is irrelevant. Thousands of people lost their jobs when Rover went under.

Its german jobs this time though, so with a bit of luck some marketshare would come back to uk built cars to even the score.

[Ahonen]

pmr01 said:

I raise a glass to Martin mrt...a man after my own heart.

Yep, mine too. I've had plenty of VW Group diesels over the years and I couldn't care less what they've been doing - in fact they were being pretty clever, so I applaud them for pulling a bit of a fast one. No one, in any industry or business, EVER plays with a completely straight bat and I pretty much guarantee VW weren't alone in their actions.

I find all these money grabbing types to be very distasteful. Ooooh, ooooh, I must've been hard done by so I must receive what I'm entitled to. Hmm, but how was I hard done by? Not sure. Oh, I know, I feel guilty about all the people I may have poisoned so I need a cash payout to help me get over that guilt.

[dxg]

Allow me to replicate a post from the diesgate thread, I made last night:

A tremendously detailed and thorough examination of the legal treatment of all this - with lots of comparison between how VW is dealing with the legalities of this in the US vs. Europe. And a call for the press to realise how they are being managed in Europe.

Long, detailed, worth watching:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjlHtLux9vc

A brilliant insight at 25 minutes in. Someone should make a movie out of this...

And check out 37 minutes for some fun!!!

There's another presentation from that conference that shows how the software determined when to stop trying to control emissions.

It's all massively underhand. And, as the link above point out, VW were not the only one doing this!

[LP670]

Ahonen said:

Yep, mine too. I've had plenty of VW Group diesels over the years and I couldn't care less what they've been doing - in fact they were being pretty clever, so I applaud them for pulling a bit of a fast one. No one, in any industry or business, EVER plays with a completely straight bat and I pretty much guarantee VW weren't alone in their actions.

I find all these money grabbing types to be very distasteful. Ooooh, ooooh, I must've been hard done by so I must receive what I'm entitled to. Hmm, but how was I hard done by? Not sure. Oh, I know, I feel guilty about all the people I may have poisoned so I need a cash payout to help me get over that guilt.

Is that the VW board you are refering to...