New car painted wrong colour

New car painted wrong colour

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swisstoni

17,033 posts

280 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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You are probably right. It's done with good intentions from the manufacturer - it's the clamour from the flip specu motoring enthusiasts that gets a bit unattractive.

ferrisbueller

29,342 posts

228 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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Paracetamol said:
Don't you find that however posh the brand or flash the dealership, ultimately they are staffed by blokes who started out in sales at the age of 18 and don't really understand the meaning of long term relationships in business.

The motor retail industry remains transactional and largely staffed by people who started as high school leavers- probably a bit brighter than their contemporaries but not enough to get a job beyond selling something that is heavily supported by marketing, vast investment and brands that are globably recognised (ie largely sell themselves).

The level of immaturity, awful banter, petty mindedness that creates a sales alpha male never really goes..it just gets veneered away by a more expensive suit and watch..the same guys make it to management and the cycle just continues..
See, also, "Estate Agents".

I'm sure they all work on the basis of the fact that it's a one off transaction for them and there'll always be another punter.

rkwm1

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1,476 posts

103 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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For all of you who think some major piece of information is missing it is not.

Having checked with my solicitors i pleased to say that buying a car and then selling it to make a profit is totally legal.

As i understanded it AM have told the dealer that they are no longer allowed to sell me the car because they think i will sell it on.

If i had wanted to sell it(which i didn't) there is nothing Aston Martin could have done about. To my knowledge no contract can legally be drawn up which forbids the sale of an item when it is sold to the new owner. The only notable exception to this is when the government subsidise property and then the owner of the property is not allowed to sell the property and profit from it.

Subsequently as the dealer is breaking their contract with me the dealer will be taken to court for substantial losses.





Edited by rkwm1 on Sunday 19th February 15:35

rkwm1

Original Poster:

1,476 posts

103 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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Fortunately i still have this to keep me company.




biglaugh

Edited by rkwm1 on Sunday 19th February 15:31

swisstoni

17,033 posts

280 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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I think you may find that you get your deposit and their best wishes.

Durzel

12,276 posts

169 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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rkwm1 said:
For all of you who think some major piece of information is missing it is not.

Having checked with my solicitors i pleased to say that buying a car and then selling it to make a profit is totally legal.

As i understanded it AM have told the dealer that they are no longer allowed to sell me the car because they think i will sell it on.

If i had wanted to sell it(which i didn't) there is nothing Aston Martin could have done about. To my knowledge no contract can legally be drawn up which forbids the sale of an item when it is sold to the new owner. The only notable exception to this is when the government subsidise property and then the owner of the property is not allowed to sell the property and profit from it.

Subsequently as the dealer is breaking their contract with me the dealer will be taken to court for substantial losses by me.
I'll just leave this here

Strictly speaking contracts can impose all kinds of terms that might ostensibly seem unreasonable, but if you sign it then you're agreeing to be bound by them.

Obviously if AM have no such contract then it's a different story.

rkwm1

Original Poster:

1,476 posts

103 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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Durzel said:
I'll just leave this here

Strictly speaking contracts can impose all kinds of terms that might ostensibly seem unreasonable, but if you sign it then you're agreeing to be bound by them.

Obviously if AM have no such contract then it's a different story.
Thanks. No agreement has been signed like this one. I will get the solicitors to look over that one though as it looks nonsense to me.

rkwm1

Original Poster:

1,476 posts

103 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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Durzel said:
Strictly speaking contracts can impose all kinds of terms that might ostensibly seem unreasonable, but if you sign it then you're agreeing to be bound by them.

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Not if the contract you are signing is not legally binding in the first place!

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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I cant understand the issue.
You werent going to sell it on.
Sign a contract saying no Sale within 6 months?

Nice porker!

Osinjak

5,453 posts

122 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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rkwm1 said:
Fortunately i still have this to keep me company.




biglaugh

Edited by rkwm1 on Sunday 19th February 15:31
What is that?

rkwm1

Original Poster:

1,476 posts

103 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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xjay1337 said:
I cant understand the issue.
You werent going to sell it on.
Sign a contract saying no Sale within 6 months?

Nice porker!
To be honest i think its gone past that now.

thanks

V8LM

5,174 posts

210 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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Sorry to hear it sounds like things for gone too far down one route.

Understand if you don't wish to say, but what substantial loses have you incurred?

Cold

15,250 posts

91 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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V8LM said:
Understand if you don't wish to say, but what substantial loses have you incurred?
About two years of interest on a £20k deposit. So a couple of hundred quid?

VGTICE

1,003 posts

88 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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Borroxs said:
Also, I'd add: I know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that.... but it's not nice. If any other after market company had slapped that body kit and spoiler on what's obviously a beautiful base car, they'd be properly hammered on PH. If it helps you properly visualise this car, photoshop a pair of Kahn alloys onto this photo to see properly how this really looks.

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I have to agree with this, it's all subjective and all but I don't see why, except potential for huge profits, this car gets so much hype. Mr Kahn could do a better job for less.

jeff666

2,323 posts

192 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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Cold said:
V8LM said:
Understand if you don't wish to say, but what substantial loses have you incurred?
About two years of interest on a £20k deposit. So a couple of hundred quid?
Plus the fact that the car has gone up in value.

ferrisbueller

29,342 posts

228 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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jeff666 said:
Cold said:
V8LM said:
Understand if you don't wish to say, but what substantial loses have you incurred?
About two years of interest on a £20k deposit. So a couple of hundred quid?
Plus the fact that the car has gone up in value.
To 285k........

CoolHands

18,681 posts

196 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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It's pretty ridiculous for a car company to try and control the possible decisions of owners. Their sense of self-importance is clearly rather high.

Tango13

8,451 posts

177 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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rkwm1 said:
For all of you who think some major piece of information is missing it is not.

Having checked with my solicitors i pleased to say that buying a car and then selling it to make a profit is totally legal.

As i understanded it AM have told the dealer that they are no longer allowed to sell me the car because they think i will sell it on.

If i had wanted to sell it(which i didn't) there is nothing Aston Martin could have done about. To my knowledge no contract can legally be drawn up which forbids the sale of an item when it is sold to the new owner. The only notable exception to this is when the government subsidise property and then the owner of the property is not allowed to sell the property and profit from it.

Subsequently as the dealer is breaking their contract with me the dealer will be taken to court for substantial losses.





Edited by rkwm1 on Sunday 19th February 15:35
Bit in bold, AM and/or the dealer are refusing to sell you a car which is worth what? Three? Four times list price on the open market?

Will you be sueing for the value of the car on the open market?

Cold

15,250 posts

91 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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ferrisbueller said:
jeff666 said:
Cold said:
V8LM said:
Understand if you don't wish to say, but what substantial loses have you incurred?
About two years of interest on a £20k deposit. So a couple of hundred quid?
Plus the fact that the car has gone up in value.
To 285k........
Firstly, the car is still an unregistered asset belonging to the manufacturer so its monetary value is the RRP. Secondly he doesn't own the car yet so he's lost (or gained) nothing there and lastly he claims that he's not going to sell it so that point is irrelevant.

V8LM

5,174 posts

210 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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ferrisbueller said:
jeff666 said:
Cold said:
V8LM said:
Understand if you don't wish to say, but what substantial loses have you incurred?
About two years of interest on a £20k deposit. So a couple of hundred quid?
Plus the fact that the car has gone up in value.
To 285k........
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