The French do NOT own...

The French do NOT own...

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mygoldfishbowl

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3,691 posts

142 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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MarshPhantom said:
But Sanef is a French firm, one way or another I'd say that means it's owned by the French.
Sanef is actually owned by the Spanish, but having a contract to install & maintain the toll system has no bearing on ownership.

coppice

8,562 posts

143 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Nasty rumour I heard that Renault and Peugeot are also French- bds will be claiming to make wine nex.
Is this Brexit Britain ? .

CraigyMc

16,313 posts

235 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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mygoldfishbowl said:
... the Dartford crossing. Can we please put this urban myth to rest.

Every time a conversation comes up with anything to do with the crossing some bright spark will say something along the lines of, the worst part is it's owned by the French, no it isn't. The crossing has never been owned by the French, it is not presently owned by the French & there are no plans to sell it to the French.

It is owned by us & controlled by Connect plus on behalf of Highways England. Connect Plus also control the rest of the M25 & some surrounding roads, Connect Plus parent companies are Balfour Beatty, Atkins & Egis Road Operations UK.

More info about Connect Plus here.. http://www.connectplusservices.co.uk/about-us/what...

So please, the next time you overhear someone come out with this old chestnut tell them they are wrong and that the true information is freely available on the internet.
It's run by the French. https://www.saneftolling.co.uk/support/telepeage

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

136 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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coppice said:
Nasty rumour I heard that Renault and Peugeot are also French- bds will be claiming to make wine nex.
Is this Brexit Britain ? .
Well, you can choose not to buy French stuff if you want, we can't choose not to use the Dartford Crossing. And 150 jobs went when they ditched the toll booths.

But I'm more annoyed at just how crap the new system is.

Dave Hedgehog

14,541 posts

203 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Motorrad said:
jamoor said:
Either way it's a scam.
Yup, robbing liars promised the charge would be dropped. It's also a fking PITA now you can't pay with cash.
drop the charge as promised or hike it to £2.50 hmmmm

its an easy 400k a day biggrin


Jim AK

4,029 posts

123 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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MarshPhantom said:
Well, you can choose not to buy French stuff if you want, we can't choose not to use the Dartford Crossing. And 150 jobs went when they ditched the toll booths.

But I'm more annoyed at just how crap the new system is.
I quite like it save for a 'Low balance' email when the account gets to £10.

They can fk right off. I use it for 6 crossings a month on average, 2 at least after 10pm, so my current balance will suffice for the next month. I don't go to Tesco's, give them money then get my goods, it's goods first & pay before leaving.

Pay me interest on my lodged funds & il use it as a bank or sort it to work like how I pay the Congestion Charge & bill my credit card once a month!

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

136 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Jim AK said:
MarshPhantom said:
Well, you can choose not to buy French stuff if you want, we can't choose not to use the Dartford Crossing. And 150 jobs went when they ditched the toll booths.

But I'm more annoyed at just how crap the new system is.
I quite like it save for a 'Low balance' email when the account gets to £10.

They can fk right off. I use it for 6 crossings a month on average, 2 at least after 10pm, so my current balance will suffice for the next month. I don't go to Tesco's, give them money then get my goods, it's goods first & pay before leaving.

Pay me interest on my lodged funds & il use it as a bank or sort it to work like how I pay the Congestion Charge & bill my credit card once a month!
The queues on the south side can be a hell of a lot worse than they used to be. Seems to be the automated closure of the tunnels for overheight vehicles that's causing problems.

coppice

8,562 posts

143 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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MarshPhantom said:
Well, you can choose not to buy French stuff if you want, we can't choose not to use the Dartford Crossing. And 150 jobs went when they ditched the toll booths.

But I'm more annoyed at just how crap the new system is.
You can if you live where I do, mon ami . A bientot.

Jim AK

4,029 posts

123 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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MarshPhantom said:
The queues on the south side can be a hell of a lot worse than they used to be. Seems to be the automated closure of the tunnels for overheight vehicles that's causing problems.
Yes, I've noticed that too, especially in the evenings.

Before Pay as you go I think I could count on 1 hand how often they closed a bore for the tankers when I was there, now it seems almost every crossing I make!

mygoldfishbowl

Original Poster:

3,691 posts

142 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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CraigyMc said:
Good grief man no it isn't read the links you quoted from my op, but even if it was run by the French that's not what the thread is about.

CraigyMc

16,313 posts

235 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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mygoldfishbowl said:
CraigyMc said:
Good grief man no it isn't read the links you quoted from my op, but even if it was run by the French that's not what the thread is about.
Yeah, and if you bothered to read the link I posted, you'd see the dart charge toll in there. If you can post a link why can't I?

Also, the reason why people think that the toll is french owned is because it's French run. That's as relevant to the thread as it gets.

tomjol

532 posts

116 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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CraigyMc said:
Yeah, and if you bothered to read the link I posted, you'd see the dart charge toll in there. If you can post a link why can't I?

Also, the reason why people think that the toll is french owned is because it's French run. That's as relevant to the thread as it gets.
So, people don't understand the concept of ownership?

mudster

784 posts

243 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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mygoldfishbowl said:
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It is owned by us & controlled by Connect plus on behalf of Highways England. Connect Plus also control the rest of the M25 & some surrounding roads, Connect Plus parent companies are Balfour Beatty, Atkins & Egis Road Operations UK.
Following Skanska pulling out, Atkins sold its stake in Connect Plus and is no longer a partner.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

186 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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tomjol said:
So, people don't understand the concept of ownership?
As far as I'm concerned the British public own it, it's on our land and it was promised that when it was paid for it would be free to use. I could see a justification for charging commercial vehicles other than that it's theft. Lying s, although I guess they could have argued that outside of 'peak hours' that it's charge free.

Here's some fake news, it's the best sort.


http://southendnewsnetwork.com/news/dartford-cross...

Monkeylegend

26,226 posts

230 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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......and we have finally gone full circle.

CraigyMc

16,313 posts

235 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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tomjol said:
CraigyMc said:
Yeah, and if you bothered to read the link I posted, you'd see the dart charge toll in there. If you can post a link why can't I?

Also, the reason why people think that the toll is french owned is because it's French run. That's as relevant to the thread as it gets.
So, people don't understand the concept of ownership?
When they don't care and only barely half understand things because of total apathy, sure.

There are plenty of folk wandering about the place without the first clue of things, but assured in the knowledge that they do know about them.

mygoldfishbowl

Original Poster:

3,691 posts

142 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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CraigyMc said:
Yeah, and if you bothered to read the link I posted, you'd see the dart charge toll in there. If you can post a link why can't I?

Also, the reason why people think that the toll is french owned is because it's French run. That's as relevant to the thread as it gets.
It is not French run.Sanef got the contract to install & maintain the toll system & nothing more. The crossing is run by Connect Plus which is not French.


Edited by mygoldfishbowl on Wednesday 18th January 07:54

mygoldfishbowl

Original Poster:

3,691 posts

142 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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mudster said:
Following Skanska pulling out, Atkins sold its stake in Connect Plus and is no longer a partner.
Very possibly. I only took my information from the Connect Plus web site.

tomjol

532 posts

116 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Motorrad said:
As far as I'm concerned the British public own it, it's on our land and it was promised that when it was paid for it would be free to use. I could see a justification for charging commercial vehicles other than that it's theft. Lying s, although I guess they could have argued that outside of 'peak hours' that it's charge free.

Here's some fake news, it's the best sort.


http://southendnewsnetwork.com/news/dartford-cross...
Er, that's the point. It is British owned, and that has absolutely sweet fk all to do with charging or not charging.

CraigyMc said:
tomjol said:
CraigyMc said:
Yeah, and if you bothered to read the link I posted, you'd see the dart charge toll in there. If you can post a link why can't I?

Also, the reason why people think that the toll is french owned is because it's French run. That's as relevant to the thread as it gets.
So, people don't understand the concept of ownership?
When they don't care and only barely half understand things because of total apathy, sure.

There are plenty of folk wandering about the place without the first clue of things, but assured in the knowledge that they do know about them.
Indeed. Particularly depressing at the moment.

swisstoni

16,850 posts

278 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Tell me still own the Eiffel Tower though, right?